California Trying To Keep Valero Refinery Open

[Toddsterpatriot]

Zero percent comes from Fossil Fuels with the exception of the CNA powered bus system. And we have tons and millions of tons of Natural Gas which we export to you idiots. We export almost all fossil fuels and electricity. Are we smarter than you are? Normally I would say no but your stupidity level is so low it's not even on scale anymore.

United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

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Moron.

 

[HikerGuy83]

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Moron.

Let's hear it again Vrenn.

You can't look anymore stupid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let's hear it again Vrenn.

You can't look anymore stupid.

When he said zero percent come from fossil fuels, he meant after you ignore the 53.29% that come from fossil fuels

 

[Doc7505]

The rare attempt by a state government to broker the sale of privately-owned infrastructure reflects its growing concerns over protecting fuel supplies in the most populous U.S. state and keeping a lid on prices, where California's nearly 28 million drivers already pay among the highest prices for gasoline in the country.

California's effort to save the refinery from closing also marks a shift from the focus of government policy in recent years to champion green initiatives and restrict fossil fuel usage, that has led to an often tense relationship between the state and oil companies, including the second-largest U.S. refiner by capacity.

The state's primary energy and policy planning agency, the California Energy Commission (CEC), has actively sought buyers for the plant, three sources told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

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I am totally amazed at the stupidity of the state.

66 and Valero finally said "screw you" and Valero is considering shuttering it's Wilminton plant. These places run on shoestrings (gasoline is about as pure a commodity as you can find).

When these places finally do shut down, the coast is going to be paying 6-8/gallon or go on gas rationing.

All due to unfavorable approaches to the industry.

You get what you ask for.

Maybe Newscum can pull 400,000 BPD (a barrel is 42 gallons) out of his oversized ass.

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Newsom must be wondering about fueling California.
Other than Valero, at least 4 oil refineries are set ti close leavin 4 or 5 refineries operational.
If Californians aren't careful Newsom's wish of $10.00/gal will come true.

 

[Vrenn]

65% dipshit.

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That is the eastern half of the state. I live in the Western Side where we export energy including coal to wherever you are so you can pollute everything to your hearts grandest desires. We don't use coal but like Norway with their crude, we export it to those dumb enough to not be self sufficient like you, stupid.

Now I remember why I had you on iggie. That special combination of obtusely ignorant and yet arrogant.

Have a blessed life

Got your iggy hanging.

 

[JWBooth]

Crawfishing on the initial statewide claim.

 

[Rambunctious]

Some say gas could go up to $10 a gallon in California if they lose another refinery... good luck running for president hair gel Newscum....

 

[Vrenn]

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Moron.

I live in the western half of Colorado and the only gas we used would be natural gas which is the cleanest fossil fuel variety. We ship coal to the eastern side who are as stupid as you are and think that they can't become self reliant. The last Coal Fired Western Slope Electric has finally shut down.

 

[Vrenn]

Let's hear it again Vrenn.

You can't look anymore stupid.

I live in the western half of the state. That means, due to air pollution, we have shut down the last coal fired electric factory early this year. What replaced it? Solar and Wind with enough Hydro to fill in when there is no wind nor light. We also have a couple or three Natural Gas Electric plants. But no coal or oil like it once was. And our air is clean while your air has been so bad for so long you actually think it doesn't smell.

But we ship coal and crude to where you are so you can screw up your air. Sounds to me like YOU are too stupid to find a bathroom in time.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I live in the western half of the state. That means, due to air pollution, we have shut down the last coal fired electric factory early this year. What replaced it? Solar and Wind with enough Hydro to fill in when there is no wind nor light. We also have a couple or three Natural Gas Electric plants. But no coal or oil like it once was. And our air is clean while your air has been so bad for so long you actually think it doesn't smell.

But we ship coal and crude to where you are so you can screw up your air. Sounds to me like YOU are too stupid to find a bathroom in time.

Have you read any of the plentious articles that show what power plants exist in CO and how 60% of their generation is from coal and gas.

You idiot.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I live in the western half of the state. That means, due to air pollution, we have shut down the last coal fired electric factory early this year. What replaced it? Solar and Wind with enough Hydro to fill in when there is no wind nor light. We also have a couple or three Natural Gas Electric plants. But no coal or oil like it once was. And our air is clean while your air has been so bad for so long you actually think it doesn't smell.

But we ship coal and crude to where you are so you can screw up your air. Sounds to me like YOU are too stupid to find a bathroom in time.

You said you ran no fossil fuel.

EVERYTHING says you are WRONG

 

[Leo123]

I live in the western half of Colorado and the only gas we used would be natural gas which is the cleanest fossil fuel variety. We ship coal to the eastern side who are as stupid as you are and think that they can't become self reliant. The last Coal Fired Western Slope Electric has finally shut down.

I live in CA and wish that would happen. Maybe Gavin voters and CA Democrats will finally feel real pain from the used car salesman they voted for.

 

[defcon4]

The guy Vrenn lives in the western part of Colorado. I think he made it abundantly clear in the last 10 posts after he was busted lying. West Colorado apparently is not part Colorado or something along that line. ****, I confused myself. Rather, let's hear it from him one more time.

 

[Vrenn]

Have you read any of the plentious articles that show what power plants exist in CO and how 60% of their generation is from coal and gas.

You idiot.

Look at the location for those coal plants. And I believe that there are a couple of oil fired ones as well. We should know, while we won't use them, we do sell them to those that do. Now, stop with the MAGAt stupidity.

 

[Vrenn]

I live in CA and wish that would happen. Maybe Gavin voters and CA Democrats will finally feel real pain from the used car salesman they voted for.

The sad part for CA is that there are thousands of coves and each cove can produce wave electric energy where the only cost (after they are installed) is preventive maintenance. No matter how bad the MAGAt stupids try, this isn't a Red or a Blue problem. It's a human problem that can be easily fixed. And we export to LA as well as Vegas and a lot of towns in between.

 

[Vrenn]

The guy Vrenn lives in the western part of Colorado. I think he made it abundantly clear in the last 10 posts after he was busted lying. West Colorado apparently is not part Colorado or something along that line. ****, I confused myself. Rather, let's hear it from him one more time.

Wow, you really don't have any shame. So be it. You are confused because you are just too stupid to follow along.

 

[defcon4]

Wow, you really don't have any shame. So be it. You are confused because you are just too stupid to follow along.

Thank you! Your kindness doesn't negate the fact that you were lying and got busted for it.

 

[Vrenn]

Thank you! Your kindness doesn't negate the fact that you were lying and got busted for it.

Wow, standard Orange Cheeto defense. And only a MAGAt domestic terrorist and traitor would try this. Please keep building those prisons. You need a place to sleep in the near future.

 

[Leo123]

The sad part for CA is that there are thousands of coves and each cove can produce wave electric energy where the only cost (after they are installed) is preventive maintenance. No matter how bad the MAGAt stupids try, this isn't a Red or a Blue problem. It's a human problem that can be easily fixed. And we export to LA as well as Vegas and a lot of towns in between.

Fossil fuel is much more efficient and would be the best and cheapest fuel for electrical generation overall.

 

[Leo123]

The sad part for CA is that there are thousands of coves and each cove can produce wave electric energy where the only cost (after they are installed) is preventive maintenance. No matter how bad the MAGAt stupids try, this isn't a Red or a Blue problem. It's a human problem that can be easily fixed. And we export to LA as well as Vegas and a lot of towns in between.

Environmentalists will never let your 'cove' energy become reality.