California now to be even more expensive to live in

[Mr Natural]

Hey Idiot you don't think someone on the border of CA in a business friendly state can have customers and business with people in CA while being in a business friendly tax environment

I bet you never ran a business

Right, I'm sure people are going to go out of their way to save $.25 on a Big Mac.

 

[Liminal]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

Feel free to elaborate on how state government manipulates prices for agricultural products.

 

[DarkFury]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

You can't move farm land. You can shut down your fields though.

 

[mudwhistle]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

Feel free to elaborate on how state government manipulates prices for agricultural products.

So you assume that the only products consumers buy is food, specifically produce?

That's news to me.

Guess you might as well learn to make clothes, stop heating your home, stop going to McDonald's, stick with the same car for 40 years, etc....

 

[mudwhistle]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

You can't move farm land. You can shut down your fields though.

If nobody can afford your produce you go out of business.

 

[DarkFury]

Businesses will just set up on the border states where they are welcome

Right, because what crazy foolhardy businessmen would want to do business in the wealthiest state with the largest population.

Hey Idiot you don't think someone on the border of CA in a business friendly state can have customers and business with people in CA while being in a business friendly tax environment

I bet you never ran a business

The world is evidently coming to an end in 2022.

Feel free to leave sooner if you wish.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Businesses will just set up on the border states where they are welcome

Right, because what crazy foolhardy businessmen would want to do business in the wealthiest state with the largest population.

Hey Idiot you don't think someone on the border of CA in a business friendly state can have customers and business with people in CA while being in a business friendly tax environment

I bet you never ran a business

The world is evidently coming to an end in 2022.

Non sequitur

 

[Liminal]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

Feel free to elaborate on how state government manipulates prices for agricultural products.

So you assume that the only products consumers buy is food, specifically produce?

That's news to me.

Guess you might as well learn to make clothes, stop heating your home, stop going to McDonald's, stick with the same car for 40 years, etc....

No, wrong again. I was responding directly to your response to a previous post. Did you neglect to read that post? Did you happen to notice that you were responding to a post about food prices?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Hey Idiot you don't think someone on the border of CA in a business friendly state can have customers and business with people in CA while being in a business friendly tax environment

I bet you never ran a business

Right, I'm sure people are going to go out of their way to save $.25 on a Big Mac.

Yes because the ONLY business that will be affected is Mcd's

 

[Liminal]

Businesses will just set up on the border states where they are welcome

Right, because what crazy foolhardy businessmen would want to do business in the wealthiest state with the largest population.

Hey Idiot you don't think someone on the border of CA in a business friendly state can have customers and business with people in CA while being in a business friendly tax environment

I bet you never ran a business

The world is evidently coming to an end in 2022.

Feel free to leave sooner if you wish.

I'll do that in 2022....you know, when the minimum wage reaches $15 and the world comes to an end.

 

[mudwhistle]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

Feel free to elaborate on how state government manipulates prices for agricultural products.

So you assume that the only products consumers buy is food, specifically produce?

That's news to me.

Guess you might as well learn to make clothes, stop heating your home, stop going to McDonald's, stick with the same car for 40 years, etc....

No, wrong again. I was responding directly to your response to a previous post. Did you neglect to read that post? Did you happen to notice that you were responding to a post about food prices?

Excuse me, but I lived in California. Everything considered a staple food item is not taxed with a sales tax. And any produce is simply brought over the border from Mexico because of the lower overhead and close proximity.



Btw, only if you operate in a complete vacuum does this all work. If the price of everything else goes up you won't be able to afford food, much less medicine, water, electricity, and so-on. Everyone will be too broke to buy much of anything, which is California in a nutshell.

 

[Mr Natural]

One would think that with all the increases in the minimum wage since it's inception that California would be one big empty wasteland by now.

 

[DarkFury]

well, it might work, this time.



assuming the plan is to put small biz out of commission.

Can you imagine trying to sell products that have the price printed on them (like books)?
those prices are contracted, you can't charge more, you can charge less after a certain amount of time, but never more to cover costs.

you can kiss book stores, small convenient stores, etc goodbye.

The price of food there and from there is about to go through the roof.

Nope....Democrats use price controls.....which will drive businesses out of the state.

Feel free to elaborate on how state government manipulates prices for agricultural products.

So you assume that the only products consumers buy is food, specifically produce?

That's news to me.

Guess you might as well learn to make clothes, stop heating your home, stop going to McDonald's, stick with the same car for 40 years, etc....

No, wrong again. I was responding directly to your response to a previous post. Did you neglect to read that post? Did you happen to notice that you were responding to a post about food prices?

Well gee whiz dickhead lets start with food.
Bun is wheat, up it goes.
Pickle, veggie and up it goes.
Burger, beef and up it goes.
Mustard, veggie and up it goes.
Tomato sauce, fruit and up it goes.
You figure a quarter retard? Try a dollar or more.

Now lets expand your demented little mind. How many jobs are affected by raising the wage?

Turns out it’s 42% of all U.S. workers.

Ever since fast-food workers walked off their jobs in New York City in November 2012 to demand $15 per hour, that dollar figure has been the rallying cry of the low-wage worker movement.

42%? Just exactly what happens TARD when 42% of the state gets a raise?

Who makes less than $15 per hour? An explainer in 3 charts

The cost of living goes up TARD because everybody wants "their" share.
Home sellers
Landlords
Utilities
Gas stations
Hospitals
City government
County government
State government
Federal government.
Bank loans
Car dealers

When it comes to economics you idiot you have the IQ of a rope.

 

[mudwhistle]

One would think that with all the increases in the minimum wage since it's inception that California would be one big empty wasteland by now.

Not if you fill the state with Mexicans living on welfare.

 

[Wildman]

California now to be even more expensive to live in

the San Andreas fault should crack wide open and let that part of Commiefornia to drift away.., i have always dreamed about having "beach front property in Arizona"

 

[DigitalDrifter]

If it wasn't bad enough, imagine what it will be like when this new minimum wage is fully implemented.

California's Unions Demand $15-An-Hour Minimum Wage; It Will Destroy A Third Of The State

In response to powerful government union demands, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed Senate Bill 3 today, a measure hiking California’s minimum wage 50 percent in six years from $10-per-hour to $15. For the third of state, about 13 million people, this new experiment in central planning will devastate already weak local economies.

California’s cost-of-living index stood at 134.3% of the national average in 2015, meaning that, compared to the rest of the nation, rent, food and services taken together cost about 34% more. Most of this higher cost is driven by the state’s myriad regulations, fees and arcane permits required before building homes, office buildings or manufacturing facilities. By comparison, Texas, the second most populous state, had a cost of living index of 92.6 last year. On average, California is 45% more expensive than Texas.
Just as the Golden State’s cost-of-living was the third-highest among the states, behind Hawaii and New York, there are large cost of living variations within California itself. Housing, goods and services in San Francisco, the emblematic progressive city, are 58% costlier than in the greater Stockton metro area, 84 miles to the east, where the official unemployment rate is 9.5%. The City by the Bay is an astounding 65 to 74% more expensive than is Bakersfield.


Down south on the border with Mexico, idyllic San Diego has a price premium of 36% on Bakersfield and 29% on Stockton. The Los Angeles metro region will set your budget back 31% more than would living in Bakersfield and 25% more than would Stockton.

California's Unions Demand $15-An-Hour Minimum Wage; It Will Destroy A Third Of The State

Which 1/3 will be destroyed..?

The third you're in.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

What all the fucking dummies and liars forgot to mention was that the minimum wage wouldn't reach $15 an hour until 2022. I wonder what fifteen dollars will be worth in 2022?

My OP: "If it wasn't bad enough, imagine what it will be like when this new minimum wage is fully implemented."

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This phases in over years, and lower wages in CA were already high.

The bigger danger is all the lower-paid people who think this happens overnight.
.

The people who really get screwed with such a high minimum wage, are people who have been in the workforce for 20-30 years and earn under $30.00 per hour.
They've paid their dues, worked their way up, only now to see their purchasing power take a big hit.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Northern California will seek to break ties. Southern California will fail economically and socially.

SoCal will eventually attempt to return to Mexico, and be forcibly repatriated.

you can tell you know about the economy of s. cal billy.....lots of wealthy people live along the coast there with lots of businesses that do pretty well....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Northern California will seek to break ties. Southern California will fail economically and socially.

SoCal will eventually attempt to return to Mexico, and be forcibly repatriated.

Why do people like you bother posting on a public forum? Aren't you embarrassed for people to know how stupid you are? Even anonymously?

You must live in California, or should.

Parts of NoCal are already considering secession. SoCal's foreign-to-native population is ridiculous, and the Aztlan POV has a fair hold there already.

Do educate yourself before spouting off, eh?.

the idea of splitting the state in 2 was going on when i first got here in the late 60's...some have suggested into 6 parts...50 years later its still 1 state....