California Leg. OKs funding for high-speed rail line

[Wry Catcher]

If Golden Gate Park or the Golden Gate Bridge were being considered today the same 'Conservatives' who oppose high speed rail would have complained, "no one needs a huge park, no one will go there and hell, we have Ferry's who needs a damn bridge". By the way, the conservatives in 1900 complained about those damn horseless carriages, and years before that the conservatives claimed the earth was flat and the center of the universe.

Very thoughtful (sarcasm), not that I expect anything substantive from you.

 

[Meister]

If Golden Gate Park or the Golden Gate Bridge were being considered today the same 'Conservatives' who oppose high speed rail would have complained, "no one needs a huge park, no one will go there and hell, we have Ferry's who needs a damn bridge". By the way, the conservatives in 1900 complained about those damn horseless carriages, and years before that the conservatives claimed the earth was flat and the center of the universe.

Very thoughtful (sarcasm), not that I expect anything substantive from you.

We sure didn't get any from you either, wry. oh, that wasn't sarcasm.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

 

[Wry Catcher]

California is broke. Entire cities are going bankrupt. The federal government is broke and supporting itself by printing worthless money.

That's the difference. Industry is moving out of the state not into the state. Taxes are already too high and California is a union state. Industry is moving to right to work states. At least, the very least, in 1900 the government didn't buy cars and sell them at a loss so they could get horseless carriages on the street. That's what this rail line compares to.

Have you seen the construction going on in the Bay Area? Not every business or industry is leaving CA. Have you considered reasons beyond our borders for the economic problems facing California.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

Think beyond your biases, your posts may then not be so silly.

 

[Katzndogz]

California is broke. Entire cities are going bankrupt. The federal government is broke and supporting itself by printing worthless money.

That's the difference. Industry is moving out of the state not into the state. Taxes are already too high and California is a union state. Industry is moving to right to work states. At least, the very least, in 1900 the government didn't buy cars and sell them at a loss so they could get horseless carriages on the street. That's what this rail line compares to.

Have you seen the construction going on in the Bay Area? Not every business or industry is leaving CA. Have you considered reasons beyond our borders for the economic problems facing California.

I can tell you that Toyota was planning on building a car manufacturing company in the SF area and decided against it to build it in Tennessee instead. In fact, Toyota just closed it's Torrance factory to move to Georgia. So it's gone out of CA completely except for office space. The primary industries in the Bay Area are import/export because it is a gateway to Asia, tourism and communications. Actually even communications is slowly moving out. The economy of San Francisco is based chiefly on the economy of China and Japan,

There's no industry in the San Francisco area. There is precious little left in the Los Angeles area. Construction! Piffle. Los Angeles has major construction projects going on and it's STILL bankrupt. They are building office buildings that will be empty for years.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

Think beyond your biases, your posts may then not be so silly.

Think at all and your posts may then not be so silly.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

There isn't a single transportation agency in the country that is profitable.

 

[Katzndogz]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

Think beyond your biases, your posts may then not be so silly.

Think at all and your posts may then not be so silly.

Is that supposed to be a clever way of deflecting that I was correct?

 

[Katzndogz]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

There isn't a single transportation agency in the country that is profitable.

The answer to an unprofitable agency is to create another unprofitable agency. How long do you think that can go on?

 

[Trajan]

California is broke. Entire cities are going bankrupt. The federal government is broke and supporting itself by printing worthless money.

That's the difference. Industry is moving out of the state not into the state. Taxes are already too high and California is a union state. Industry is moving to right to work states. At least, the very least, in 1900 the government didn't buy cars and sell them at a loss so they could get horseless carriages on the street. That's what this rail line compares to.

Have you seen the construction going on in the Bay Area? Not every business or industry is leaving CA. Have you considered reasons beyond our borders for the economic problems facing California.

I can tell you that Toyota was planning on building a car manufacturing company in the SF area and decided against it to build it in Tennessee instead. In fact, Toyota just closed it's Torrance factory to move to Georgia. So it's gone out of CA completely except for office space. The primary industries in the Bay Area are import/export because it is a gateway to Asia, tourism and communications. Actually even communications is slowly moving out. The economy of San Francisco is based chiefly on the economy of China and Japan,

There's no industry in the San Francisco area. There is precious little left in the Los Angeles area. Construction! Piffle. Los Angeles has major construction projects going on and it's STILL bankrupt. They are building office buildings that will be empty for years.

they also closed Nummi, a GM Toyota joint plant in Fremont, Ca which I pass everyday along 880, they gave a I think a third of the floor space to Tesla for a song too.

 

[Trajan]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

Think beyond your biases, your posts may then not be so silly.

please, you see this as a social issue. the math does not work, period. this is not a park or a recreation space. Its a place where the burden of cost vis a vis labor and infrastructure will be so huge even if we got the rider ship they plan on, AT THE PRICE advertised, we would not pay it off before the turn of the century.

 

[Oddball]

California is broke. Entire cities are going bankrupt. The federal government is broke and supporting itself by printing worthless money.

That's the difference. Industry is moving out of the state not into the state. Taxes are already too high and California is a union state. Industry is moving to right to work states. At least, the very least, in 1900 the government didn't buy cars and sell them at a loss so they could get horseless carriages on the street. That's what this rail line compares to.

Have you seen the construction going on in the Bay Area? Not every business or industry is leaving CA. Have you considered reasons beyond our borders for the economic problems facing California.

I can tell you that Toyota was planning on building a car manufacturing company in the SF area and decided against it to build it in Tennessee instead. In fact, Toyota just closed it's Torrance factory to move to Georgia. So it's gone out of CA completely except for office space. The primary industries in the Bay Area are import/export because it is a gateway to Asia, tourism and communications. Actually even communications is slowly moving out. The economy of San Francisco is based chiefly on the economy of China and Japan,

There's no industry in the San Francisco area. There is precious little left in the Los Angeles area. Construction! Piffle. Los Angeles has major construction projects going on and it's STILL bankrupt. They are building office buildings that will be empty for years.

The good news is that San Franfreako is a huge market for urban outdoormen.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

There isn't a single transportation agency in the country that is profitable.

Gee, how many tourist dollars are generated and jobs produced by the simple fact that the Golden Gate Bridge exists? Now, the bridge itself has been paid for several times over by the tolls, so, notwithstanding the fact that the bridge allows commerce to travel to and from The City - think wine, cheese and tourist dollar spent in Sonoma, Napa and Mendicino Counties - and the hospitality jobs in the City.

Transportation agencies are not in business, they facilitate commerce but are not engaged in profit making.

 

[Katzndogz]

Let's hear it for the economically wise San Francisco.

California's biggest community college fights to survive - Yahoo! News

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's largest community college, the City College of San Francisco, will be forced to close next year if it fails to address a raft of longstanding problems that the school blames on state budget cuts.

The two-year college that serves 90,000 students risks becoming the first in California to lose its accreditation since 2006, triggering funding cuts that could shutter the school.

The threatened loss of accreditation for the school, which would occur in June 2013, comes as California's heralded system of public universities and colleges groans under the pressure of reduced government funding and curtailed school budgets.

BUT in 50 years or so they will have a rail line out to the middle of the desert.

 

[Trajan]

The Golden Gate Bridge charged a toll which eventually paid for the Bridge itself. Since every ticket sold to ride the bullet train will have to have just the transportation costs itself heavily subsidized the rail line will never pay for itself, like Amtrak has never paid for itself.

There isn't a single transportation agency in the country that is profitable.

Gee, how many tourist dollars are generated and jobs produced by the simple fact that the Golden Gate Bridge exists? Now, the bridge itself has been paid for several times over by the tolls, so, notwithstanding the fact that the bridge allows commerce to travel to and from The City - think wine, cheese and tourist dollar spent in Sonoma, Napa and Mendicino Counties - and the hospitality jobs in the City.

Transportation agencies are not in business, they facilitate commerce but are not engaged in profit making.

hey, Pelosi is all over Napa already...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Transportation agencies are not in business, they facilitate commerce but are not engaged in profit making.

How's that Airline Industry doing? Deregulation has done wonders:

The high cost of deregulation: Joblessness, bankruptcy, debt

 

[Trajan]

Simpsons - Monorail - YouTube!

 

[Trajan]

Transportation agencies are not in business, they facilitate commerce but are not engaged in profit making.

How's that Airline Industry doing? Deregulation has done wonders:

The high cost of deregulation: Joblessness, bankruptcy, debt

god Ur just out there, who here asked for a profit?

it it to much to ask that they run flat?

that means- pay for itself...

 

[Sallow]

About time.