CAIR Launches Website Exposing America's 'Islamophobia Network'

[westwall]

Nonsense... that is PRECISELY what multiculturalism (Cultural Relativism) does... .

Multiculteralism is NOT cultural relativism. Multiculteralism is the acknowledgement that other cultures exist, here they are, here is what they do, and we can all live together so long as we all follow the laws of this land that we all live in.

Laws are culturally determined. One group has clitoral circumcision as a deeply ingrained cultural tradition and it is legal in their homeland, another group finds the practice abhorrent and makes it illegal. The latter group must now be tolerant to the former group, to respect their ways and traditions.

The law is not culturally neutral.

The only legitimate purpose of law is to serve justice. Islam has no such understanding of law... .

The purpose of laws is to maintain order. Simple "justice" can be meted out by well regulated vigilante groups.

And THAT folks is yet another example of why cultures fail when ignorance is tolerated.

Law is only legitimate when it serves justice... period.

That is your interpretation, one that history, jurisprudence, and simple common sense denies. No LEGAL SYSTEM has ever had as it's primary remit, "justice". Justice is merely a secondary effect. In other words, justice can only happen if a law has been broken. Laws are passed to MAINTAIN ORDER.

Do you get that?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I see that your argument is a vacuous train-wreck. Multiculturalism equates all cultures, demanding that unsound cultures be accepted as sustainable. It's a deceitful rationalization, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant.

It is certainly all that.

and since Multiculturalism is in the business of preserving archaic cultural mores, it is actually a very conservative ideology masquerading as a liberal. It's very purpose is to PREVENT backwards immigrants from accepting the liberal ways of the host communities since it operates on the assumption that rights are not afforded to the individual based upon any recognizable goal, but merely assigned by the subgroup as a product of custom.

It assumes that morality is entirely normative and that here is no such thing as moral reason.

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

 

[westwall]

Multiculturalism is a nonsensical notion. It can't exist without government coercion. That's where your progressive Totalitarian measures come into play.

Cultures come into conflict because of differing behavior and beliefs of the members. THEY can't be just like YOU because THEY are from a different culture than YOU. Yellow can't be Purple because they're different.

There's tons of research on how corrosive diversity is to community values.

Well said... The principle that diversity is a strength, is the misnomer upon which the Cultural Relativist rests.

The problem they have is that in the analogy of steel, where dissimilar elements exist to form a stronger metal, the elements bond to one another.

Multiculturalism undermines cohesion... . Which is how we can know that Multiculturalism is a lie, just as are every other notions which come from the irrational species of reasoning OKA: Left-think.

The analogy of steel actually supports the ideas of multiculturalism. The two most extensive empires the world has ever known (the Mongol and Victorian UK) allowed the cultures within them to exist so long as they did it peacefully. The capital of the Mongolian Empire was famous for its religious tolerance where Catholic, Islam, Animist, Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism et al co-existed peaceably for over 100 years. That period witnessed the greatest spread of technology and commerce the world had ever seen until the recent era.

LOL! The United States is or at least was known as "The Great melting Pot". The strength of which was the means of people to come from many cultures and make ONE CULTURE.

Did you see that?

The strength of Steel is that numerous otherwise dissimilar elements JOIN TOGETHER, to make a stronger metal.

Meaning that in Steel is NOT a pile of differing elements, it is a NEW and distinct metal... .

The steel analogy only serves to prove, in indisputable terms, that Multi-culturalism, which REJECTS the joining of differing cultures into ONE CULTURE.

To believe otherwise is to delude yourself... and no individual can be sustained through self-delusion.

Steel takes iron (white people), chromium (black people), carbon (Asian people) and any of a whole host of other alloying materials (whatever other ethnic group there is) and by heating and tempering them you get a much stronger alloy. You can vary the amounts and the types to get a varity of steel types such as tool steel, stainless steel, chrome vanadium steel, rolled homogenous steel plate etc.

In other words the more additives you employ the differing types of steel you get. Multiculteralism at work on a microcosmic scale.

I'm seeing that you are fundamentally confused about this topic. You're arguing a fondue pot of different melted cheeses when everyone else understands that the issue is a salad bowl of various vegetables.

No, you are arguing that for civilization to exist all races must be kept separate so that there is no intermingling. For peace and harmony to prevail all religions must be kept separate within confined areas. History tells us that this is untrue.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Steel takes iron (white people), chromium (black people), carbon (Asian people) and any of a whole host of other alloying materials (whatever other ethnic group there is) and by heating and tempering them you get a much stronger alloy. You can vary the amounts and the types to get a varity of steel types such as tool steel, stainless steel, chrome vanadium steel, rolled homogenous steel plate etc.

In other words the more additives you employ the differing types of steel you get. Multiculteralism at work on a microcosmic scale.

You have not described multiculturalism. You have described a melting pot

Multiculturalism acts more like putting oil and water together, where each remains distinct in the glass..

 

[westwall]

I see that your argument is a vacuous train-wreck. Multiculturalism equates all cultures, demanding that unsound cultures be accepted as sustainable. It's a deceitful rationalization, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant.

It is certainly all that.

and since Multiculturalism is in the business of preserving archaic cultural mores, it is actually a very conservative ideology masquerading as a liberal. It's very purpose is to PREVENT backwards immigrants from accepting the liberal ways of the host communities since it operates on the assumption that rights are not afforded to the individual based upon any recognizable goal, but merely assigned by the subgroup as a product of custom.

It assumes that morality is entirely normative and that here is no such thing as moral reason.

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

Using the CONUS and Declaration of Independence define American Principles.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

Of course it seeks to conserve. It seeks to conserve the cultural values of the immigrant communities.

That doesn't mean it isn't deceptive, which it is. It just describes what it does according to the classical definitions as to what the terms mean.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... No LEGAL SYSTEM has ever had as it's primary remit, "justice". Justice is merely a secondary effect. In other words, justice can only happen if a law has been broken. Laws are passed to MAINTAIN ORDER.

Do you get that?

No?

LOL!

Again friends... THIS is why the tolerance of Left-think was a catastrophic error on the part of our grand parents... and why only NATURAL BORN CITIZENS of the United States can LEGALLY be candidates for and be seated as President of the United States.

Let's review the 'primary remit' [sic] of the US Legal SYSTEM:

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The Americans will recognize it, the Leftists will need to google it... take your time kids. We'll wait on ya.

 

[westwall]

Steel takes iron (white people), chromium (black people), carbon (Asian people) and any of a whole host of other alloying materials (whatever other ethnic group there is) and by heating and tempering them you get a much stronger alloy. You can vary the amounts and the types to get a varity of steel types such as tool steel, stainless steel, chrome vanadium steel, rolled homogenous steel plate etc.

In other words the more additives you employ the differing types of steel you get. Multiculteralism at work on a microcosmic scale.

You have not described multiculturalism. You have described a melting pot

Multiculturalism acts more like putting oil and water together, where each remains distinct in the glass..

Multiculteralism is "melting pot" defined. That's all. Please note the post where I emphasized that all cultures living together and UNDER THE LAWS OF THE LAND THEY ALL INHABIT! No cultural relativism, which IS what you described, but mutual cohabitation where all groups live together and follow the LAWS OF THE LAND.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I see that your argument is a vacuous train-wreck. Multiculturalism equates all cultures, demanding that unsound cultures be accepted as sustainable. It's a deceitful rationalization, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant.

It is certainly all that.

and since Multiculturalism is in the business of preserving archaic cultural mores, it is actually a very conservative ideology masquerading as a liberal. It's very purpose is to PREVENT backwards immigrants from accepting the liberal ways of the host communities since it operates on the assumption that rights are not afforded to the individual based upon any recognizable goal, but merely assigned by the subgroup as a product of custom.

It assumes that morality is entirely normative and that here is no such thing as moral reason.

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

Using the CONUS and Declaration of Independence define American Principles.

The Constitution represents the foundation upon which US Law rests. The Charter of American Principle was declared as the basis for the right of our founding Father's to govern themselves... the principles are set forth in that instrument... they were stated as follows:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. ..."

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Multiculteralism is "melting pot" defined. That's all. Please note the post where I emphasized that all cultures living together and UNDER THE LAWS OF THE LAND THEY ALL INHABIT! No cultural relativism, which IS what you described, but mutual cohabitation where all groups live together and follow the LAWS OF THE LAND.

You obviously do not even know what Multiculturalism IS.

Melting pot and Multiculturalism are near antitheses, since one encourages the adoption of a common culture and one doesn't.

We are Americans. We aren't a bunch of Brits, Germans, Italians and French all keeping to our separate ways. .

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Multiculteralism is "melting pot" defined.

Nonsense...

 

[westwall]

I see that your argument is a vacuous train-wreck. Multiculturalism equates all cultures, demanding that unsound cultures be accepted as sustainable. It's a deceitful rationalization, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant.

It is certainly all that.

and since Multiculturalism is in the business of preserving archaic cultural mores, it is actually a very conservative ideology masquerading as a liberal. It's very purpose is to PREVENT backwards immigrants from accepting the liberal ways of the host communities since it operates on the assumption that rights are not afforded to the individual based upon any recognizable goal, but merely assigned by the subgroup as a product of custom.

It assumes that morality is entirely normative and that here is no such thing as moral reason.

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

Using the CONUS and Declaration of Independence define American Principles.

The Constitution represents the foundation upon which US Law rests. The Charter of American Principle was declared as the basis for the right of our founding Father's to govern themselves... the principles are set forth in that instrument... they were stated as follows:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. ..."

Yes, the relevant clause......

Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness;

 

[westwall]

Multiculteralism is "melting pot" defined. That's all. Please note the post where I emphasized that all cultures living together and UNDER THE LAWS OF THE LAND THEY ALL INHABIT! No cultural relativism, which IS what you described, but mutual cohabitation where all groups live together and follow the LAWS OF THE LAND.

You obviously do not even know what Multiculturalism IS.

Melting pot and Multiculturalism are near antitheses, since one encourages the adoption of a common culture and one doesn't.

We are Americans. We aren't a bunch of Brits, Germans, Italians and French all keeping to our separate ways. .

I am a Scottish American. I have relatives in Scotland. My wife is French American. She has relatives all over France. We still practice those traditions that were begun centuries ago that are relevant to our homeland. We even travel back to our collective homelands on a regular basis. We honor where we came from. We also honor where we are and follow the laws of our new home.

That is multiculturalism personified.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I see that your argument is a vacuous train-wreck. Multiculturalism equates all cultures, demanding that unsound cultures be accepted as sustainable. It's a deceitful rationalization, fraudulently advanced as a means to influence the ignorant.

It is certainly all that.

and since Multiculturalism is in the business of preserving archaic cultural mores, it is actually a very conservative ideology masquerading as a liberal. It's very purpose is to PREVENT backwards immigrants from accepting the liberal ways of the host communities since it operates on the assumption that rights are not afforded to the individual based upon any recognizable goal, but merely assigned by the subgroup as a product of custom.

It assumes that morality is entirely normative and that here is no such thing as moral reason.

Multi-culturalism does NOT seek to conserve anything. It seeks solely to deceive, through the use of wedging one unsustainable culture, into the target culture. It is a deceptive tool, fraudulently advanced ... as a means to influence the ignorant, toward the goal of undermining the adherence to AMERICAN PRINCIPLE.

Using the CONUS and Declaration of Independence define American Principles.

The Constitution represents the foundation upon which US Law rests. The Charter of American Principle was declared as the basis for the right of our founding Father's to govern themselves... the principles are set forth in that instrument... they were stated as follows:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. ..."

Yes, the relevant clause......

Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness;

Every 'clause' is relevant... as each represents an immutable principle in nature... and each is wholly rejected by the relativists of the Ideological Left. Preferring instead to advocate for Foreign Ideas, each hostile to American principle. Such as Multiculturalism, which holds up the unsustainable cultures of Islam and other manifestly evil populations, as equal to those which recognize, respect, defend and adhere to: Nature's Law.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I am a Scottish American. I have relatives in Scotland. My wife is French American. She has relatives all over France. We still practice those traditions that were begun centuries ago that are relevant to our homeland. We even travel back to our collective homelands on a regular basis. We honor where we came from. We also honor where we are and follow the laws of our new home.

That is multiculturalism personified.

That is denial personified.

 

[westwall]

I am a Scottish American. I have relatives in Scotland. My wife is French American. She has relatives all over France. We still practice those traditions that were begun centuries ago that are relevant to our homeland. We even travel back to our collective homelands on a regular basis. We honor where we came from. We also honor where we are and follow the laws of our new home.

That is multiculturalism personified.

That is denial personified.

And you are free to think that way. Isn't America grand!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... No LEGAL SYSTEM has ever had as it's primary remit, "justice". Justice is merely a secondary effect. In other words, justice can only happen if a law has been broken. Laws are passed to MAINTAIN ORDER.

Do you get that?

No?

LOL!

Again friends... THIS is why the tolerance of Left-think was a catastrophic error on the part of our grand parents...

Let's review the 'primary remit' [sic] of the US Legal SYSTEM:

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The Americans will recognize it, the Leftists will need to google it... take your time kids. We'll wait on ya.

I am a Scottish American. I have relatives in Scotland. My wife is French American. She has relatives all over France. We still practice those traditions that were begun centuries ago that are relevant to our homeland. We even travel back to our collective homelands on a regular basis. We honor where we came from. We also honor where we are and follow the laws of our new home.

That is multiculturalism personified.

That is denial personified.

And you are free to think that way. Isn't America grand!

Yes I am free to think. As are you.

What you clearly do not understand is that your refusal to do so is a failure on your part to bear the responsibilities that sustain your means to exercise your rights.

But you seem like a decent enough human being... and you at least possess the means to hold a civil discussion, which is a rarity among 'moderates'.

 

[skye]

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today launched Islamophobia.org, the latest element in the Muslim civil rights organization's work to monitor and challenge the growing anti-Muslim bigotry in American society.

CAIR's Islamophobia.org site presents detailed profiles of a number of individuals and institutions involved in the American Islamophobia network.

You may follow the link to get rid of your Islamophobia
Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. - Islamophobia

It doesn't surprise me at all that CAIR is launching that site, it's just the same old false propaganda to lure the naive fans of Islam.

It's taqiyya pure and simple.

CAIR is a radical organization and to quote its chairman Omar M. Ahmad, - "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,but to become dominant. The Koran...........should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." (this was reported by the San Ramon Valley Herald in July 1998)

What more can be said about CAIR.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

It doesn't surprise me at all that CAIR is launching that site, it's just the same old false propaganda to lure the naive fans of Islam.

and an attempt at intimidation.

Just look how far down the rabbit hole they have taken the U.K.? the Brits are so terrified of being called an "Islamophobe" that they offer up their children to be sexually abused by their Islamist masters. .

Islamists view their religion as inviolate. For the life of me, I do not understand all the useful idiots living in the west who agree.

 

[Alex.]

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today launched Islamophobia.org, the latest element in the Muslim civil rights organization's work to monitor and challenge the growing anti-Muslim bigotry in American society.

CAIR's Islamophobia.org site presents detailed profiles of a number of individuals and institutions involved in the American Islamophobia network.

You may follow the link to get rid of your Islamophobia
Islamophobia is closed-minded prejudice against or hatred of Islam and Muslims. - Islamophobia

It doesn't surprise me at all that CAIR is launching that site, it's just the same old false propaganda to lure the naive fans of Islam.

It's taqiyya pure and simple.

CAIR is a radical organization and to quote its chairman Omar M. Ahmad, - "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith,but to become dominant. The Koran...........should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth." (this was reported by the San Ramon Valley Herald in July 1998)

What more can be said about CAIR.

What Ahmad hopes for is pie in the sky nonsense. This has been tried during the First Barbary War and Islam lost it's bid to be supreme back then thanks to Jefferson's understanding of what the Koran meant as it relates to non Muslims.