Buzzfeed: President Trump Directed Michael Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Project

[BWK]

Beyond the fact that you are stupid for beleiving every "source with knowledge" bulshit story we've heard despite 3 years of it never panning out there is the obvious. If Trump , or anyone else for that matter, conspired to get a witness to lie to Congress, that would be illegal, but it wouldn't be "obstruction of justice"

William Barr thinks otherwise....

The 1 Line That William Barr Wrote About Obstruction That Could Haunt Trump | HuffPost

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As things stand, obstruction laws do not criminalize just any act that can influence a ‘proceeding,’” he wrote in a document shared on Twitter by The Daily Beast’s Justin Miller. “Rather, they are concerned with acts intended to have a particular kind of impact.”

Barr then spelled out what would constitute obstruction, such as witness tampering. And he specifically said that even the president could be guilty in that case:

“Obviously, the President and any other official can commit obstruction in this classic sense of sabotaging a proceeding’s truth-finding function. Thus, for example, if a President knowingly destroys or alters evidence, suborns perjury, or induces a witness to change testimony, or commits any act deliberately impairing the integrity or availability of evidence, then he, like anyone else, commits the crime of obstruction.”

HuffPo??

Nuff said.

Is that the best that you can do?? Stupid question, of course that is your best shot. Now prove that Barr did not say what they are reporting.

Prove that he did?? HuffPo?? Really??

OK, here is a copy from another source of the actual memo

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...4c05e39318dd2d136b3/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

enjoy!!

Barr should not be nominated.

 

[BWK]

Buzzfeed....

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The white house (or Trump) could easily deny that he directed Cohen to lie to congress, but they havent denied it.

Calling Cohen a liar is like a mob boss calling his hit man a cold-blooded killer.

Are you suggesting they lie again?

 

[tyroneweaver]

I added it to this list:

Let's make a list of the questions we want Congress to ask Michael Cohen:

HAH-HAH! Buzzfeed Reporter Behind Latest Cohen Russian Hotel Junk Hit Piece Admits He DID NOT SEE THE UNDERLYING REPORT (VIDEO)

 

[BWK]

Yeah and I wondering what the Trump tower is all about.

There is no Trump tower. They tried a bribe which didn't work. So. No Trump Tower.

If you had to "wonder what the Trump Tower was about, then how can you say there was "no Trump Tower"?

 

[g5000]

Beyond the fact that you are stupid for beleiving every "source with knowledge" bulshit story we've heard despite 3 years of it never panning out there is the obvious. If Trump , or anyone else for that matter, conspired to get a witness to lie to Congress, that would be illegal, but it wouldn't be "obstruction of justice"

William Barr thinks otherwise....

The 1 Line That William Barr Wrote About Obstruction That Could Haunt Trump | HuffPost

“

As things stand, obstruction laws do not criminalize just any act that can influence a ‘proceeding,’” he wrote in a document shared on Twitter by The Daily Beast’s Justin Miller. “Rather, they are concerned with acts intended to have a particular kind of impact.”

Barr then spelled out what would constitute obstruction, such as witness tampering. And he specifically said that even the president could be guilty in that case:

“Obviously, the President and any other official can commit obstruction in this classic sense of sabotaging a proceeding’s truth-finding function. Thus, for example, if a President knowingly destroys or alters evidence, suborns perjury, or induces a witness to change testimony, or commits any act deliberately impairing the integrity or availability of evidence, then he, like anyone else, commits the crime of obstruction.”

HuffPo??

Nuff said.

Is that the best that you can do?? Stupid question, of course that is your best shot. Now prove that Barr did not say what they are reporting.

Prove that he did?? HuffPo?? Really??

OK, here is a copy from another source of the actual memo

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...4c05e39318dd2d136b3/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

enjoy!!

You are arguing with someone who drinks WND's piss by the gallon.

Don't bother.

 

[BWK]

I added it to this list:

Let's make a list of the questions we want Congress to ask Michael Cohen:

HAH-HAH! Buzzfeed Reporter Behind Latest Cohen Russian Hotel Junk Hit Piece Admits He DID NOT SEE THE UNDERLYING REPORT (VIDEO)

He doesn't have to. They have what they need from the Cohen raid

 

[g5000]

I added it to this list:

Let's make a list of the questions we want Congress to ask Michael Cohen:

HAH-HAH! Buzzfeed Reporter Behind Latest Cohen Russian Hotel Junk Hit Piece Admits He DID NOT SEE THE UNDERLYING REPORT (VIDEO)

Michael Cohen will be testifying before Congress in February. What kind of diversions do you think Trump and your propagandists will come up with to distract from his testimony?

 

[DandyDonovan]

William Barr thinks otherwise....

The 1 Line That William Barr Wrote About Obstruction That Could Haunt Trump | HuffPost

“

HuffPo??

Nuff said.

Is that the best that you can do?? Stupid question, of course that is your best shot. Now prove that Barr did not say what they are reporting.

Prove that he did?? HuffPo?? Really??

OK, here is a copy from another source of the actual memo

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...4c05e39318dd2d136b3/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

enjoy!!

Barr should not be nominated.

He's already been nominated fool.

 

[DandyDonovan]

I added it to this list:

Let's make a list of the questions we want Congress to ask Michael Cohen:

HAH-HAH! Buzzfeed Reporter Behind Latest Cohen Russian Hotel Junk Hit Piece Admits He DID NOT SEE THE UNDERLYING REPORT (VIDEO)

Michael Cohen will be testifying before Congress in February. What kind of diversions do you think Trump and your propagandists will come up with to distract from his testimony?

Why would they divert from the testimony from someone who is going to prison for lying to Congress? LOL

Cohen is worthless as a prosecutorial witness.

 

[g5000]

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...4c05e39318dd2d136b3/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

enjoy!!

I have read that memo, and three things come to mind.

1. Why did Barr write that completely unsolicited memo? He wasn't even in government, much less connected to the Mueller investigation.

2. Barr's memo revolves around the contention that Trump asking Comey to "let go" of the Flynn investigation did not rise to obstruction. However, his long-winded explanation of what does constitute obstruction perfectly matches the current allegation of Trump suborning Cohen's perjury. Barr's memo will thus come back to haunt him. His own words will support impeachment.

3. If Trump is guilty, he should immediately withdraw his nomination of Barr to mitigate the damage the memo can cause for him in the immediate future.

 

[Baz Ares]

lock up Jared. lock up Ivanka. lock up Don Jr. and let me adopt Barron!

What about the Former Hooker Melania? To do DrumpF you need to be serving IT as a hooker.

 

[jc456]

this is a ******* crime. impeach the ************ already

what is? to do so is a crime, the thing is, there is no hearsay allowed in a courtroom unless you made your wife disappear and she told someone you'd do it.

 

[g5000]

this is a ******* crime. impeach the ************ already

what is? to do so is a crime, the thing is, there is no hearsay allowed in a courtroom unless you made your wife disappear and she told someone you'd do it.

See post 148.

 

[edward37]

day 752 of idiot RW's asking dunbshit questions about an investigation that ISNT ******* OVER ....

Just like the Clinton investigation, this is a nothing burger. 752 days of investigating is 20x more than anyone should need if something really had occurred. I called in on the Clinton thing and I am calling it now.

The ONLY thing they MAY have on Trump is him instructed someone to lie.

IF trump told cohen to lie to congress impeachment is on it's way and on another track
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Pelosi Accuses Trump Administration of Leaking Her Travel Plans
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January 18, 2019, 9:52 AM EST Updated on January 18, 2019, 12:24 PM EST

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  House speaker, delegation planned to use commercial flight
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused President Donald Trump’s administration of leaking her plan to fly commercially to Afghanistan, forcing her to scuttle the trip because of the heightened danger.



Pelosi said that after Trump on Thursday publicly revealed plans for the trip in a letter denying use of military aircraft for her congressional delegation to make the trip to visit troops in the war zone, they made alternative plans to use commercial service. But she said the State Department warned that publicity about the trip raised the danger level, and then a leak about the delegation’s plan to fly commercial forced her to scrap that plan.

 

[Camp]

Donald Trump has two choices, either he resigns or he gets impeached. Of course, there is a chance the reports or him suborning perjury are fake news, but if they are true, resignation or impeachment will be his choices.

 

[MarcATL]

Donald Trump has two choices, either he resigns or he gets impeached. Of course, there is a chance the reports or him suborning perjury are fake news, but if they are true, resignation or impeachment will be his choices.

One way or another, we're going to get to the bottom of it.

However, what we know already is damning.

 

[jc456]

maybe he just tells the likes of you to fk yourself. just saying.

any day now, any day now

 

[Faun]

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word...d-his-lawyer-to-lie-to-congress-1428061251891

This is the beginning of the end for Trump. If true, 'obstruction of justice by anybody's standards'

This is a slam dunk for obstruction of justice and possible conspiracy.

Wow. Everything Cohen did wrong is Trump's fault, right?
Personal responsibility ? Find another job if your boss pressures you to do wrong?
I'm not following his stories with a lot of interest, and I don't think he can "prove" Trump did any of this, so it's just another Trump smear.

We don’t know if Cohen can prove it or not — but Cohen did record some of their conversations, so it is possible he can.

Is telling Cohen to lie to Congress a crime? Isn't it more just talking--freedom of speech type stuff? Back to my original point, isn't the onus on Cohen to say no?

Yes, it’s a crime and an impeachable offense if provable.

Lying to Congress is a crime. Telling someone to commit a crime is conspiracy, which is a criminal offense.

It all comes down to whether or not Cohen has proof beyond just his word.

Telling someone to commit a crime is not a crime. It's MUCH more involved than that.

If I tell you to go rob a bank and you do it, I have not committed a crime.

Conspiracy

A conspiracy occurs when two or more people agree to commit an illegal act and take some step toward its completion. Conspiracy is an inchoate crimebecause it does not require that the illegal act actually have been completed. For instance, a group of individuals can be convicted of conspiracy to commit burglary even if the actual burglary never happens. Conspiracy is also unique in that, unlike attempt, a defendant can be charged with both conspiracy to commit a crime, and the crime itself if the crime is completed.

 

[jc456]

Donald Trump has two choices, either he resigns or he gets impeached. Of course, there is a chance the reports or him suborning perjury are fake news, but if they are true, resignation or impeachment will be his choices.

One way or another, we're going to get to the bottom of it.

However, what we know already is damning.

nope.

 

[Andylusion]

Donald Trump has two choices, either he resigns or he gets impeached. Of course, there is a chance the reports or him suborning perjury are fake news, but if they are true, resignation or impeachment will be his choices.

Only if you can actually prove a real crime. I haven't seen that evidence yet. Lots of wailing and screaming... not real evidence.

If the report comes out, and there are real problems..... I'll be the first to support his removal.