But Sweden has gun control...and their gun control laws don't work? But......how is this possible?

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They do? Even the ones I own?


HAHAHAHAHA

Why else would you be crying about gun violence and gun accidents?

 

[Vegasgiants]

Why else would you be crying about gun violence and gun accidents?

You know so little but assume so much....and always get it wrong. Lol

 

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You know so little but assume so much....and always get it wrong. Lol

Says the guy complaining about too many gun deaths in America.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Says the guy complaining about too many gun deaths in America.

I see. You would prefer MORE gun deaths in America. Lol

 

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I see. You would prefer MORE gun deaths in America. Lol

Don't be silly. That's why we have laws against it. Would you prefer that the vast overwhelming majority of peaceable law abiding citizens have their guns confiscated because some broke laws?

 

[Vegasgiants]

Don't be silly. That's why we have laws against it. Would you prefer that the vast overwhelming majority of peaceable law abiding citizens have their guns confiscated because some broke laws?

Why would I want my own guns confiscated?

 

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Why would I want my own guns confiscated?

Don't know. I assumed it's because you are overly emotional. Why are you complaining about gun deaths?

 

[Vegasgiants]

Don't know. I assumed it's because you are overly emotional. Why are you complaining about gun deaths?

You assume a lot....and get it all wrong

 

[Care4all]

Gang shootings in Sweden....yes.....Sweden, home of the Swedish Bikini Team.....are seeing an increase in gang shootings.......largely due to immigrant gangs.....

But...we here in the U.S. are told, constantly, that Europe controls guns.......

Not so much.....

Expert: 'Terrible Year' As Swedish Fatal Shootings Could Break Records

Expert Gunnar Appelgren has warned Sweden could be in for a "terrible year" fatal shootings could break records if current trends continue.

www.breitbart.com

And the original source for the story...for those leftists about to bitch about Breitbart.....

Appelgren noted that many of the killings are linked to criminal gang activity and revenge disputes between gang members. “There are still very violent conflicts and spirals where revenge begets revenge. The very first crime of trying to kill someone creates this spiral of violence,” he said.

In recent years, Swedish police have managed to get scores of gang members off the streets of cities like Malmö, largely thanks to the hacking of the encrypted messaging app EncroChat, which was widely used by organized criminals across the country. ‘Europe.
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However, according to Appelgren, gang members who were taken off the streets have been replaced by younger gang members who are just as willing to use guns.

'A terrible year' as fatal shootings in Sweden could break records

Swedish police gang crime expert Gunnar Appelgren has warned Sweden could have a "terrible year" as the number of fatal shootings could hit new records if

goodwordnews.com

Can any of you anti-gun fascists explain how it is that young Swedes are getting guns that are illegal for them to own, let alone carry?

What are Sweden's gun control laws?

 

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You assume a lot....and get it all wrong

You were complaining about gun violence. What would you like to do about it? Make a law that says we are doubly serious about not committing murder?

 

[Vegasgiants]

You were complaining about gun violence. What would you like to do about it? Make a law that says we are doubly serious about not committing murder?

Yes. That is a great plan.


HAHAHAHAHA

 

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Yes. That is a great plan.


HAHAHAHAHA

I agree it's as stupid as wanting to ban and confiscate all firearms. It's a really good thing you don't want to do that as that would make you an emotional twat.

But the black community really does need to do something about all of the violence in their community or cops who work for Democrat mayors will keep putting their boots on their necks.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I agree it's as stupid as wanting to ban and confiscate all firearms. It's a really good thing you don't want to do that as that would make you an emotional twat.

But the black community really does need to do something about all of the violence in their community or cops who work for Democrat mayors will keep putting their boots on their necks.

Or we could try more gun control


HAHAHAHAHA

 

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Or we could try more gun control


HAHAHAHAHA

Exactly! Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Exactly! Thanks for proving my point.

You're super welcome!!!!!!

 

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You're super welcome!!!!!!

I know. I always look forward to beating down people who want to punish peaceable law abiding citizens by placing more gun control restrictions on them because of what other people did.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I know. I always look forward to beating down people who want to punish peaceable law abiding citizens by placing more gun control restrictions on them because of what other people did.

How nice for you

 

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How nice for you

It is nice for me.

The Right to Bear Arms (i.e. the 2nd Amendment) was seen by our Founding Fathers as the last check against tyranny. They knew that the best line of defense against a standing army was an armed populace.

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."​

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- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28​

"If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."​

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- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28​

The people who wish to preserve liberty and are capable of bearing arms are the militia.

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."​

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- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788​

The Founding Fathers believed that peaceable law abiding citizens should never have their right to bear arms be infringed upon.

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, WHO ARE PEACEABLE CITIZENS, from keeping their own arms; …"​

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Samuel Adams quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"​

The fundamental purpose of the militia is to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the level of equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army.

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." - George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788​

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"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops." - Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787​

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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country." - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789​

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“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." - Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788​

Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

 

[Vegasgiants]

It is nice for me.

The Right to Bear Arms (i.e. the 2nd Amendment) was seen by our Founding Fathers as the last check against tyranny. They knew that the best line of defense against a standing army was an armed populace.

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."​

​

- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28​

"If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."​

​

- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28​

The people who wish to preserve liberty and are capable of bearing arms are the militia.

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."​

​

- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788​

The Founding Fathers believed that peaceable law abiding citizens should never have their right to bear arms be infringed upon.

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, WHO ARE PEACEABLE CITIZENS, from keeping their own arms; …"​

​

Samuel Adams quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, "Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State"​

The fundamental purpose of the militia is to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the level of equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army.

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." - George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788​

​

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops." - Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787​

​

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country." - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789​

​

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." - Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788​

Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Homicide

1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review) Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor f…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

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Homicide

1. Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review) Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor f…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

As I said like a dozen times already... gun violence and gun accidents are the cost of freedom and liberty. Freedom isn't free.