But Sweden has gun control...and their gun control laws don't work? But......how is this possible?

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Gang shootings in Sweden....yes.....Sweden, home of the Swedish Bikini Team.....are seeing an increase in gang shootings.......largely due to immigrant gangs.....

But...we here in the U.S. are told, constantly, that Europe controls guns.......

Not so much.....




And the original source for the story...for those leftists about to bitch about Breitbart.....

Appelgren noted that many of the killings are linked to criminal gang activity and revenge disputes between gang members. “There are still very violent conflicts and spirals where revenge begets revenge. The very first crime of trying to kill someone creates this spiral of violence,” he said.

In recent years, Swedish police have managed to get scores of gang members off the streets of cities like Malmö, largely thanks to the hacking of the encrypted messaging app EncroChat, which was widely used by organized criminals across the country. ‘Europe.
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However, according to Appelgren, gang members who were taken off the streets have been replaced by younger gang members who are just as willing to use guns.





Can any of you anti-gun fascists explain how it is that young Swedes are getting guns that are illegal for them to own, let alone carry?
 
When you can itemize the gun crime in other nations ad we have approximately 100 gun killings a day...they clearly are doing something right.


Well...for one, their criminals don't use their illegal guns to commit murder....perhaps we could have some of their criminals come over to our democrat party controlled cities and give lectures on why you don't have to use your illegal gun to commit murder........
 
Gang shootings in Sweden....yes.....Sweden, home of the Swedish Bikini Team.....are seeing an increase in gang shootings.......largely due to immigrant gangs.....

But...we here in the U.S. are told, constantly, that Europe controls guns.......

Not so much.....




And the original source for the story...for those leftists about to bitch about Breitbart.....

Appelgren noted that many of the killings are linked to criminal gang activity and revenge disputes between gang members. “There are still very violent conflicts and spirals where revenge begets revenge. The very first crime of trying to kill someone creates this spiral of violence,” he said.

In recent years, Swedish police have managed to get scores of gang members off the streets of cities like Malmö, largely thanks to the hacking of the encrypted messaging app EncroChat, which was widely used by organized criminals across the country. ‘Europe.
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However, according to Appelgren, gang members who were taken off the streets have been replaced by younger gang members who are just as willing to use guns.





Can any of you anti-gun fascists explain how it is that young Swedes are getting guns that are illegal for them to own, let alone carry?
20 fatal shootings in four months? LOL. :auiqs.jpg:

Get back to me when they get within sniffing distance of our tally.
You do the math...jeez.

 
I will take Swedens murder rate by guns over ours any day
The US a has FIVE TIMES the murder rate of Sweden

Lets implement Swedens gun control laws
Keep America Safe…..
Ban Guns
 
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20 fatal shootings in four months? LOL. :auiqs.jpg:

Get back to me when they get within sniffing distance of our tally.
You do the math...jeez.



And again.....you idiots tell us gun control works.....the Swedish criminals have lots and lots of guns...not just guns, but fully automatic military rifles..which are their preferred guns.....and....they use hand grenades.

What you simplistic morons don't understand is intent. Their criminals use their illegal guns less often to actually commit murder.....our criminals commit murder because they choose to shoot to kill.

You don't understand this difference, that is why you are dangerous.
 
Sweden sits among the world’s top countries with the highest guns owned per capita -

Sweden Gun Laws and Gun Ownership in Sweden


But wait....you just contradicted the entire argument of jackofnotrade.......you and that idiot both say the mere presence of guns means more gun murder.....the Swedes show, that with access to easily acquired, fully automatic military rifles, and hand grenades......neither of which our criminals in the U.S. use.....they commit fewer murders....

So, you idiot......it isn't the presence of guns that leads to more gun murder...it is the intent of the criminals to commit murder that causes the actual murder.

Meanwhile.....you then have to explain why it is that as more Americans owned and carried guns over a 27 year period.....the exact opposite of what you say will happen, happened...

Our gun murder rate went down...not up.....you idiots say that isn't what will happen.

Our gun crime rate went down...not up.....the exact opposite of what you say will happen.

Our violent crime rate went down....not up.....the exact opposite of what you idiots say will happen....

How do the two of you explain that......?

The answer? You don't.....you pretend not to see the question.....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
Gang shootings in Sweden....yes.....Sweden, home of the Swedish Bikini Team.....are seeing an increase in gang shootings.......largely due to immigrant gangs.....

But...we here in the U.S. are told, constantly, that Europe controls guns.......

Not so much.....




And the original source for the story...for those leftists about to bitch about Breitbart.....

Appelgren noted that many of the killings are linked to criminal gang activity and revenge disputes between gang members. “There are still very violent conflicts and spirals where revenge begets revenge. The very first crime of trying to kill someone creates this spiral of violence,” he said.

In recent years, Swedish police have managed to get scores of gang members off the streets of cities like Malmö, largely thanks to the hacking of the encrypted messaging app EncroChat, which was widely used by organized criminals across the country. ‘Europe.
----
However, according to Appelgren, gang members who were taken off the streets have been replaced by younger gang members who are just as willing to use guns.





Can any of you anti-gun fascists explain how it is that young Swedes are getting guns that are illegal for them to own, let alone carry?
They have way fewer people with blood on their hands than we do here in the U.S.
 
I will take Swedens murder rate by guns over ours any day
The US a has FIVE TIMES the murder rate of Sweden

Lets implement Swedens gun control laws
Keep America Safe…..
Ban Guns


To do that, you need to exchange our criminals for their criminals.....you do that, their crime rate will spike, our crime rate will go down...it has nothing to do with gun ownership.....
 
They have way fewer people with blood on their hands than we do here in the U.S.


The Swedes...maybe...but the rest of Europe has to explain the murder of 15 million innocent men, women and children....more innocent people murdered in a six year period than 82 years of American criminals with guns murdering other criminals.....
 
Sweden sits among the world’s top countries with the highest guns owned per capita -

Sweden Gun Laws and Gun Ownership in Sweden
So they use their fire arms for hunting. Big fucking deal.

The government strictly regulates Sweden gun laws as every gun owner must obtain a legal license to own a gun. As mentioned, most gun ownership legal licenses are held by wildlife hunters with a minimum age of 18.

Newsflash Moon Bat, the Second Amendment is not about hunting.
 
Sweden sits among the world’s top countries with the highest guns owned per capita -

Sweden Gun Laws and Gun Ownership in Sweden


Can you point out which Swedish gun law allows their convicted criminals to own, carry and use fully automatic military rifles and grenades? I looked through there and I couldn't find those rules.......

Crime gangs in Sweden: What's behind the rise in the use of explosives?

The frequent use of explosives is a relatively recent phenomenon, and criminologists told The Local that the blasts can be seen as part of an overall rise in violence and growing recklessness in these criminal networks.

Amir Rostami, a police superintendent turned sociologist with a focus on criminal gangs, told The Local that so-called 'street gangs' are showing an increased tendency towards violence, and that this violence was becoming more severe when it took place.

"If previously they maybe fired one shot or shot someone in the legs, today it's more about AK47s, using more bullets, hand grenades and explosions that we didn't see before. I'd say that's the biggest shift we see – they're more reckless, they don't seem to care about the consequences," Rostami said.

Fatal shootings linked to criminal gangs have increased from around four per year in the early 1990s to over 40 in 2018. And while the blasts that have taken place in Sweden have caused no fatalities so far this year, they could be seen as a sign that the gangs are unafraid of causing damage and potentially harming people.
No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.
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The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.
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Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.



Again....can you please point to the place in Swedish gun laws that allow criminal gangs to have fully automatic military rifles and grenades.....I couldn't find it....
 
And again.....you idiots tell us gun control works.....the Swedish criminals have lots and lots of guns...not just guns, but fully automatic military rifles..which are their preferred guns.....and....they use hand grenades.

What you simplistic morons don't understand is intent. Their criminals use their illegal guns less often to actually commit murder.....our criminals commit murder because they choose to shoot to kill.

You don't understand this difference, that is why you are dangerous

Uhh, it does Jim. Compare the violent shootings and death in these country compared to ours.
Not even close. If you're expecting to make the argument that gun control eliminated gun murders and violence completely, you're not playing with a full deck. :)
 
Sweden does not deserve any sympathy.

Wise people warned against letting in so many ladies and gentlemen from other cultures.

But the liberal Swedes answered "No problem."

You reap what you sow.
 
But wait....you just contradicted the entire argument of jackofnotrade.......you and that idiot both say the mere presence of guns means more gun murder.....the Swedes show, that with access to easily acquired, fully automatic military rifles, and hand grenades......neither of which our criminals in the U.S. use.....they commit fewer murders....

So, you idiot......it isn't the presence of guns that leads to more gun murder...it is the intent of the criminals to commit murder that causes the actual murder.

Meanwhile.....you then have to explain why it is that as more Americans owned and carried guns over a 27 year period.....the exact opposite of what you say will happen, happened...

Our gun murder rate went down...not up.....you idiots say that isn't what will happen.

Our gun crime rate went down...not up.....the exact opposite of what you say will happen.

Our violent crime rate went down....not up.....the exact opposite of what you idiots say will happen....

How do the two of you explain that......?

The answer? You don't.....you pretend not to see the question.....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
^^ Copy and paste shite.
 
Can you point out which Swedish gun law allows their convicted criminals to own, carry and use fully automatic military rifles and grenades? I looked through there and I couldn't find those rules.......

Crime gangs in Sweden: What's behind the rise in the use of explosives?

The frequent use of explosives is a relatively recent phenomenon, and criminologists told The Local that the blasts can be seen as part of an overall rise in violence and growing recklessness in these criminal networks.

Amir Rostami, a police superintendent turned sociologist with a focus on criminal gangs, told The Local that so-called 'street gangs' are showing an increased tendency towards violence, and that this violence was becoming more severe when it took place.

"If previously they maybe fired one shot or shot someone in the legs, today it's more about AK47s, using more bullets, hand grenades and explosions that we didn't see before. I'd say that's the biggest shift we see – they're more reckless, they don't seem to care about the consequences," Rostami said.

Fatal shootings linked to criminal gangs have increased from around four per year in the early 1990s to over 40 in 2018. And while the blasts that have taken place in Sweden have caused no fatalities so far this year, they could be seen as a sign that the gangs are unafraid of causing damage and potentially harming people.

No, Sweden, hand grenade attacks aren’t an ‘image’ problem

In 2018 there were 162 bombings reported to police, and 93 reported in the first five months of this year, 30 more than during the same period in 2018. The level of attacks is “extreme in a country that is not at war,” Crime Commissioner Gunnar Appelgren told SVT last year.

-------

The use of hand grenades is a purely Swedish phenomenon too, with no other country in Europe reporting their use on such a level, a police manager told Swedish Radio in 2016, a year after attacks first spiked.

The grenades used almost exclusively originate in the former Yugoslavia, and are sold in Sweden for around $100 per piece. But while only three hand grenades were thrown in Kosovo between 2013 and 2014, more than 20 have been used in Sweden every year since 2015.

More broadly, homicide has risen in Sweden, with more than 300 shootings reported last year, causing 45 deaths. Though homicide rates had been in decline since 2002, they again began trending upwards in 2015, as did rapes and sexual assaults, which more than tripled in the last four years.

Of course, 2015 was also the year in which Sweden flung open its doors to more than 160,000 asylum seekers, more per capita than any other European country.

-------

Dagens Nyheter pointed out that 90 percent of shooting perpetrators in Sweden are either first or second generation immigrants.



Again....can you please point to the place in Swedish gun laws that allow criminal gangs to have fully automatic military rifles and grenades.....I couldn't find it....
^^ More copy and paste shite.
 
^^ More copy and paste shite.


You guys really are dumb....

You accuse us of making unsupported statements, then when we support them, with overwhelming facts and information...you bitch about our supplying that information....you truly are morons...
 

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