But....Japan has gun control? So how was the Prime Minister shot? Breaking news.....

[2aguy]

I don't bother reading posts by abnormal people who post entire paragraphs in big fonts with lots of colors.

Yep....coward.........I point out the truth about how Japan deals with gun criminals, and how the democrat party here in the U.S. keeps releasing them from jail and prison........

That truth burns you like a cross burns a vampire...

 

[martybegan]

They are likely the most racist country in the world, and one of the most xenophobic as well....and they have never been forced to address the murder of 3 million civiliians during the war....

They are culturally homogenous, and we made them pay for their action in WWII by bombing the shit out of them, re-writing their Constitution, and making them be good little businessmen for the past 8 decades.

 

[2aguy]

Yup, he was your relation.

I don't grab guns, Japan doesn't grab guns either. The UK and Japan allows guns, obviously Japan is on the extreme side of regulations. The UK and Japan want the suitable to enjoy guns. I believe anyone wanting a gun, should apply for a gun and if they're deemed unsuitable to be a gun owner, then that's good because it makes the gun culture safer.

In America, any muppet gets a gun, that's why America suffers 31,000 gun deaths per year (37% by homicide), and Japan suffers very few -

Japan – Total Number of Gun Deaths

In Japan, annual deaths resulting from firearms total... (open to display chart). Armed violence reduction, development, guns and peace.

www.gunpolicy.org

Yes...again....remember.....Japan murdered 3 million innocent men, women and children during the war...committed atrocities they still haven't acknowledged......

So again......no comparison between us and them....

Now...

..what if we averaged the number of gun murders over the entire history of the United States.... 246 years, and compare it to Europe.....

This won't include all gun deaths, since even here, the majority are done by the government against our citizens....see the democrat party Civil War.......

So....I took 10,000 as an average number of gun murders.....some years more, some years less....later we can even bump thatnumber up...but (spoiler), it won't change the underlying truth...


Soooo...10,000 gun murders a year X 246..... punch that in to the calculator ( who has time for doing it by hand....)



We get?



2,460,000 gun murders......I know, I know.....gun crime in the early colonies didn't reach 10,000 murders a year....you only get that if you look at the future democrat party members and what they would do to their slaves....

Sooo...

246 years....and we average out to 2,460,000 gun murders........


What about old Europe.....

in the 6 years between 1939-1945 when the socialists in German and their conquered countries began to murder their citizens.....what was the grand total of their murder?



15 million....innocent men, women and children.......murdered by their governments....



I don't know about you, but I went to public school, but I can still see how those numbers are falling out....and..........the United States gun murder isn't the biggest problem when it comes to murder.....











Now.....I know...this is going to cause major butt hurt among the left wing, anti-gun fanatics out there...they will cry out about the most recent gun murder numbers after 5 years of the democrat party attacking the police...forcing them to not do their jobs....and the democrat party refusing to prosecute gun criminals....and then releasing gun criminals from jail and prison like they were on sale.....so we have a higher rate of gun murder because of the democrats and their policies...



So heck....let's indulge them like the spoiled little infants that they are....



Lets bump up the average number of gun murders to 20,000.....which is far more than the actual average, but I am a generous kinda guy....



20,000 X 246 years = 4,920,000



over 246 years....



Again...matching that to Europe....



1939-1945..... 6 years.....



15 million murdered...........



The gun murders in the U.S...the vast majority of the victims are criminals...murdered by other criminals as they engage in crime........and their unfortunate friends and family caught in that crossfire....



In Europe?



The vast majority of the murdered were innocent men, women and children.....not collateral from the socialist war....simply murdered by their governments.....



Nope...........not freaking giving up our guns cause anti-gun fanatics tell us to trust the government.....



Expect to see these calculations in future discussions.....



As to the 15,000,000 million number...the source...

=======

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER



German socialists


By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

http://[URL='http://hawaii.edu/powe...]http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

[/URL]

 

[Captain Caveman]

Until just recently, the Japanese had a huge problem with the Yakuza....when they went to war with each other, they used fully automatic weapons and hand grenades.....

This changed when the Japanese government adopted the policy of actually locking up their gun criminals for long periods of time...something we don't have here in the U.S......

a criminal in Japan caught in mere possession of a gun gets......and actually serves....10 years in prison....if they have bullets for that gun, the sentence goes up....

Here in the U.S.....a felon caught with a gun.....not just a normal person but an already convicted felon....gets no cash bail, and home monitoring........and if they are caught with another illegal gun while waiting to go to court on the first charge.....more bail, more home confinement...

that doesn't fly in Japan...which is why they have low gun crime rates....

You want a list of gun crime before they started locking up Yakuza?

The Great Japanese Gang Wars

The season for pineapples (yakuza slang for hand grenades) may finally be over. Jake Adelstein and Nathalie-Kyoko Stucky on the bloody, seven-year battle between the Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai.

In Southern Japan, the brutal pineapple season may finally be over; pineapple is yakuza slang for “hand grenade”—one of the many weapons utilized in a seven-year gang war between the Dojin-kai (1,000 members) and the splinter group the Kyushu Seido-kei (500 members).
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The Gangs That Couldn’t Shoot Straight

The Dojin-kai and the Seido-kai are Kyushu-based yakuza gangs, once part of the same faction founded in 1971 in Kurume, Fukuoka Prefecture, by Isoji Koga. When the second generation Dojin-kai boss Seijiro Matsuo retired in May 2006, there was a fight over succession, and the group split into two factions, sparking a bloody gang war—where escalation seemed a matter of course. It started with shootings and bombs being thrown, and before it ended, the two gangs were lobbing grenades and Molotov cocktails, shooting machine guns, and sometimes attacking their own men.
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In May, a 9-year-old child found a hand grenade in a rice field in Iizuka, Fukuoka Prefecture, and took it home, to the astonishment of his father, who handed it over to the local police. According to the police, there were no yakuza headquarters where the grenade was found.

The numbers of grenades used and seized in the war became so problematic that by April 2012, the Fukuoka Prefecture Police became the first in Japan to offer cash rewards to anyone who reported finding a hand grenade.

Ok, you failed.

Here's a chart -

Japan – Total Number of Gun Deaths

In Japan, annual deaths resulting from firearms total... (open to display chart). Armed violence reduction, development, guns and peace.

www.gunpolicy.org

You're an absolute crackpot.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes...again....remember.....Japan murdered 3 million innocent men, women and children during the war...committed atrocities they still haven't acknowledged......

So again......no comparison between us and them....

Now...

..what if we averaged the number of gun murders over the entire history of the United States.... 246 years, and compare it to Europe.....

This won't include all gun deaths, since even here, the majority are done by the government against our citizens....see the democrat party Civil War.......

So....I took 10,000 as an average number of gun murders.....some years more, some years less....later we can even bump thatnumber up...but (spoiler), it won't change the underlying truth...


Soooo...10,000 gun murders a year X 246..... punch that in to the calculator ( who has time for doing it by hand....)



We get?



2,460,000 gun murders......I know, I know.....gun crime in the early colonies didn't reach 10,000 murders a year....you only get that if you look at the future democrat party members and what they would do to their slaves....

Sooo...

246 years....and we average out to 2,460,000 gun murders........


What about old Europe.....

in the 6 years between 1939-1945 when the socialists in German and their conquered countries began to murder their citizens.....what was the grand total of their murder?



15 million....innocent men, women and children.......murdered by their governments....



I don't know about you, but I went to public school, but I can still see how those numbers are falling out....and..........the United States gun murder isn't the biggest problem when it comes to murder.....











Now.....I know...this is going to cause major butt hurt among the left wing, anti-gun fanatics out there...they will cry out about the most recent gun murder numbers after 5 years of the democrat party attacking the police...forcing them to not do their jobs....and the democrat party refusing to prosecute gun criminals....and then releasing gun criminals from jail and prison like they were on sale.....so we have a higher rate of gun murder because of the democrats and their policies...



So heck....let's indulge them like the spoiled little infants that they are....



Lets bump up the average number of gun murders to 20,000.....which is far more than the actual average, but I am a generous kinda guy....



20,000 X 246 years = 4,920,000



over 246 years....



Again...matching that to Europe....



1939-1945..... 6 years.....



15 million murdered...........



The gun murders in the U.S...the vast majority of the victims are criminals...murdered by other criminals as they engage in crime........and their unfortunate friends and family caught in that crossfire....



In Europe?



The vast majority of the murdered were innocent men, women and children.....not collateral from the socialist war....simply murdered by their governments.....



Nope...........not freaking giving up our guns cause anti-gun fanatics tell us to trust the government.....



Expect to see these calculations in future discussions.....



As to the 15,000,000 million number...the source...

=======

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER



German socialists


By genocide, the murder of hostages, reprisal raids, forced labor, "euthanasia," starvation, exposure, medical experiments, and terror bombing, and in the concentration and death camps, the Nazis murdered from 15,003,000 to 31,595,000 people, most likely 20,946,000 men, women, handicapped, aged, sick, prisoners of war, forced laborers, camp inmates, critics, homosexuals, Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Poles, French, Ukrainians, and many others. Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1

And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths

http://[URL='http://hawaii.edu/powe...]http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM

[/URL]

Do you know what your thread is about???

 

[Captain Caveman]

2aguy

Gun deaths in the UK per 100,000 is 0.295. So if the UK had 338,983 population, you would experience 1 death.
Gun deaths in the US per 100,000 is 11.155. So if the US had 8,965 population, you would experience 1 death.

And for you to use Japan to bolster your 2nd Amendment, the gun deaths in Japan per 100,000 is 0.09. So if Japan had 1,111,111 population, you would experience 1 death.

Way to go Einstein, way to go.

 

[Faun]

Yep....coward.........I point out the truth about how Japan deals with gun criminals, and how the democrat party here in the U.S. keeps releasing them from jail and prison........

That truth burns you like a cross burns a vampire...

I'm sure you think you post the truth. Here's the truth. In 2019, over 37,000 gun deaths in the U.S.. In Japan it was 3.

 

[martybegan]

I'm sure you think you post the truth. Here's the truth. In 2019, over 37,000 gun deaths in the U.S.. In Japan it was 3.

Including suicides.

Care to wonder if the suicide rate in Japan is higher or lower than in the US?

 

[rightwinger]

Just because you can’t stop all shootings doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop any

 

[Faun]

Including suicides.

Care to wonder if the suicide rate in Japan is higher or lower than in the US?

37000+ gun deaths ... to ... 3.

 

[martybegan]

37000+ gun deaths ... to ... 3.

How many suicides compared to each other?

And suicide by gun is no different than suicide by anything else.

It's funny when you use the word "truth" right before making a convoluted statement that is partially false.

 

[Faun]

How many suicides compared to each other?

And suicide by gun is no different than suicide by anything else.

It's funny when you use the word "truth" right before making a convoluted statement that is partially false.

What I said was not partially false. It was entirely true.

 

[2aguy]

Ok, you failed.

Here's a chart -

Japan – Total Number of Gun Deaths

In Japan, annual deaths resulting from firearms total... (open to display chart). Armed violence reduction, development, guns and peace.

www.gunpolicy.org

You're an absolute crackpot.

No.... I showed you the truth...the Yakuza were using automatic weapons and grenades as little as 10 years ago........the Japanese made them stop with long prison sentences...

 

[martybegan]

What I said was not partially false. It was entirely true.

But it was completely out of context and irrelevant to whatever point you were trying to make.

When you include suicide numbers with homicide numbers, you are lying.

 

[2aguy]

37000+ gun deaths ... to ... 3.

Yep...the majority of those are suicides....but Faun won't let the truth get in the way of a good lie...

Meanwhile, Japan murdered 3 million innocent civilians during the war....unarmed civilians...

Also, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings and stabbings.........and mass public shootings....as well as keeping the government from murdering millions of civilians...

 

[Captain Caveman]

No.... I showed you the truth...the Yakuza were using automatic weapons and grenades as little as 10 years ago........the Japanese made them stop with long prison sentences...

You failed miserably in your own stupid thread

 

[2aguy]

You failed miserably in your own stupid thread

You fail to understand the truth........you can't understand how it is that we care about governments committing mass murder and how it can happen again, instead you think you are beyond such concerns...

 

[Synthaholic]

Soooo.....Japan has gun control....but the Prime Minister was shot..........how does that work?

Shinzo Abe, former prime minister of Japan, reportedly suffered a gunshot wound while giving a campaign speech in Nara in western Japan ahead of Sunday’s election for the parliament’s upper house.

HORROR: Japan's Former PM Shinzo Abe Assassinated

pjmedia.com

Anti-gun fanatics hardest hit by the news.....

You are truly an uninformed moron.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yep...the majority of those are suicides....but Faun won't let the truth get in the way of a good lie...

Meanwhile, Japan murdered 3 million innocent civilians during the war....unarmed civilians...

Also, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings and stabbings.........and mass public shootings....as well as keeping the government from murdering millions of civilians...

37% of American gun deaths are homicides. If people commit suicide, they hurt themselves.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You fail to understand the truth........you can't understand how it is that we care about governments committing mass murder and how it can happen again, instead you think you are beyond such concerns...

You picked on Japan because of 1 death to bolster your retarded notion that that should have never happened, and thus, America is right to go crazy with guns. You are a grade A idiot with honours.