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In the big pictureI loved to watch Tyson. A knockout machine that dominated a six year period but no prestige winsTyson was flawed. A one trick ponyAli fights were boring to watch
He danced, tied up the other fighter then threw flurries at the end of the round
But he was wicked smart and took away your advantage
No other fighter beat champions like Liston, Frazier and Forman
What makes for an exciting fight is purely subjective. The point me and Canadian are trying to make was Tyson was a machine. Ali considering all his greatness was a near mortal. The athletes I put in the same category as Tyson were Bo Jackson, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders and Michael Jordan. And that’s it!
Ferocious slugger who could take you out in one punch. But no tactician
Ali could take you out of your game. He would figure out how to neutralize you
He beat HW champs Liston, Frazier and Foreman......All time great sluggers
Want to see a slugger Ali beat?
Look up Ernie Shavers
A ferocious knockout punch
Ali took him out
Yes, he was a slugger like no other. You give him no credit for his head movement? His rapid advancement on his opponents, his ability to avoid jabs and responding with bone crushing hooks and lightning speed upper cuts? He was compact, focused and accurate.
That would be a major error. Just look at how many people he K.O'ed in the first round. Everyone wanted to be a tactician against him, recall the Spinks match. 91 Seconds for what was billed the Fight of the Century.
He had no equal in his prime. The fight against Douglas wasn't even Tyson he still came within one second (and some say a long count) from winning. He was just on another planet. As boxing goes, he was the brawler you couldn't avoid.
I hated Ali and what he stood for. But damn, he dominated for twenty years.
I thought he would lose to Liston, Frazier, Norton, Forman.......but he figured out how to win
Tyson was short and a bull. Ali would have danced and tied him up. Frustrate him, mock him, jab him at will
Ali would have got him in later rounds
Well that would have been Alis plan anyways, I don't think he pulls it off.
I don't even put Ali ahead of Frazier or Louis. I think he lost to Frazier in what is unquestionably a curious fight. Notice, these suspicious fights always seem to happen overseas? Japan and Philippines?
If you look at many of Alis wins, you say "wow, look at that punch, the guy flew". You would say that for two or three career punches he's thrown, I've seen Tyson do that a dozen times, before he was even 24 years old.
In my opinion, people like Tyson shouldn't be walking the streets. He was picked up by Cus when he punched out a kid at his Foster Home. That was honestly how he was found. An angry fat little kid. Tyson said left alone he might have murdered and certainly would have been murdered eventually, or at best, living in some run down apartment somewhere. He was naturally angry and his was trained and "programmed" to just hurt. With his physical attributes, nobody would even last three rounds in their prime against him.
It is what it is. There's no doubt with or without D'Amato he would have eventually snapped and become the crazy guy he became, as instinctively that's what he was. His performances in the ring were just demons he was able to unleash in a legal manner.
Who did Tyson beat?
Tyson lost to Holyfield who was a light heavyweight and Ali style fighter
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