Bush's legacy: let's check in on how Iraq is doing these days

[struth]

What good wouldn't it have done to attack dubya or Maliki?

Obama attacked Bush on the reg...so....

Moreover, then why leave then? Why leave, allow Iran and ISIS to take hold, and then go back?

 

[struth]

because they had no business being there in the first place

Not according to Joe Xiden and Clinton

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The resolution cited many factors as justifying the use of military force against Iraq:[3][4]

• Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors.
• Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
• Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
• Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
• Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
• Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
• Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
• Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers.
• The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
• The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
• The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power.
• Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:

1. committed various and significant violations of international law,
2. failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3. further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.

The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed 360–38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[5] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[6] US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998

 

[surada]

Isis

Obama attacked Bush on the reg...so....

Moreover, then why leave then? Why leave, allow Iran and ISIS to take hold, and then go back?

ISIS is a direct consequence of the invasion of Iraq.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not according to Joe Xiden and Clinton

Who knew you were a Biden and Clinton worshiper.

I had you pegged wrong

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Isis
ISIS is a direct consequence of the invasion of Iraq.

Yep. ISIS would never have taken hold had Saddam still been in power. We created a huge power vacuum and ISIS is what it sucked in

 

[surada]

S

Not according to Joe Xiden and Clinton

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The resolution cited many factors as justifying the use of military force against Iraq:[3][4]

• Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors.
• Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
• Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
• Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
• Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
• Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
• Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
• Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers.
• The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
• The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
• The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power.
• Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Act found that between 1980 and 1998 Iraq had:

1. committed various and significant violations of international law,
2. failed to comply with the obligations to which it had agreed following the Gulf War and
3. further had ignored resolutions of the United Nations Security Council.

The Act declared that it was the Policy of the United States to support "regime change." The Act was passed 360–38 in the U.S. House of Representatives[5] and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[6] US President Bill Clinton signed the bill into law on October 31, 1998

Illy lies. Saddam provided money to all victims of the Zionists.

 

[Meathead]

S
Illy lies. Saddam provided money to all victims of the Zionists.

How is it you didn't become an ISIS bride? Too old?

 

[surada]

How is it you didn't become an ISIS bride? Too old?

How clever you are.

 

[Meathead]

How clever you are.

I didn't know ISIS was that picky- fat/old. Maybe they just wanted to spawn, because I'm pretty sure they'd boink anyone.

 

[pknopp]

It's sad..........Bush did great harm with his lies concerning Iraq.......Obama continued that harm with his lies concerning Syria and never actually getting us out of any of Bush's failures.

Both deserve a special place in Hell.

 

[White 6]

do obama lied? just imagine had he not lied, and keep the small amount of troops we had there instead of pulling them…how many more lives would be saved and maybe and real free and stable iraq would exist

Have you ever met or even seen or heard of a completely truthful politician of any political stripe? I have not. I do not know how many lives would have been saved, obviously the 4 to 31 Americans that died between 2010 and 2021, mostly on Donny's watch. How many does it take for you to think it important? I have not personally known or served with any that died or where injured there post the 2007/2008 surge. If Obama or Donny had shut it down, I doubt it would have been or be stable now. We obviously do not export democracy well. Are you saying our talent is in exporting stability? I doubt that.

 

[White 6]

Let us know when they start attacking their neighbors and gassing Kurds.

OK. I will. Since the gassing was in March of 1988 and Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, Daddy Bush settled that crap in 1991 with finality, no more invading other countries or chemical attacks, cased closed 12 years before Son-Of-A-Bush went back for incidental punishment after the ball was called dead, by his dad who commanded the team during official play. I just think a 5 yard penalty in the public mind would be a bit light for S.O.B.'s military/economic adventurism that cost of 3,400 plus US troops and a cost of $3 Trillion - $6 Trillion US dollars.

 

[BlackSand]

The EU has pumped tons of money into Iraqi civil society. at least they're trying something, unlike America

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The Kuwaiti dinar is trading for $3.31 USD today ... Talk about getting a decent return on your investments.
Doesn't look like Iraq was taking notes.

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[basquebromance]

America's mission in Iraq is to destroy ISIS-K permanently

Iran's influence in Iraq has been declining, that helps the US in their mission

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

 

[Meathead]

OK. I will. Since the gassing was in March of 1988 and Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, Daddy Bush settled that crap in 1991 with finality, no more invading other countries or chemical attacks, cased closed 12 years before Son-Of-A-Bush went back for incidental punishment after the ball was called dead, by his dad who commanded the team during official play. I just think a 5 yard penalty in the public mind would be a bit light for S.O.B.'s military/economic adventurism that cost of 3,400 plus US troops and a cost of $3 Trillion - $6 Trillion US dollars.

I don't need a snowflake-history lesson. Again, let me know when Iraq starts invading their neighbors and gassing Kurds (future tense).

 

[bendog]

The US invaded Iraq because of a lie, destroyed Iraqi civil society, and overlooked huge amounts of torture, rape, and murder by rogue U.S. troops. Is it any wonder why they hate us? It's our own fault.

Iraq’s Tishreen Uprising: From Barricades to Ballot Box

The huge demonstrations that rocked Iraqi cities two years ago reverberate still, with the main grievances unaddressed. Protests could arise anew at any time, risking another lethal crackdown. The government should hold those who harmed protesters accountable and work to ensure clean elections...

www.crisisgroup.org

your 'current link' is from 7-21. But I thought W was a fool. Still, the shiaa maj in Iraq still don't want to be Iran

 

[bendog]

America's mission in Iraq is to destroy ISIS-K permanently

Iran's influence in Iraq has been declining, that helps the US in their mission

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

And W created Isis by overthrowing Saddam's baathist govt

 

[basquebromance]

your 'current link' is from 7-21. But I thought W was a fool. Still, the shiaa maj in Iraq still don't want to be Iran

the video i posted in the OP is the new...the article was meant to be bonus material, you know, like in a Guns N Roses Japanese edition CD

 

[White 6]

I don't need a snowflake-history lesson. Again, let me know when Iraq starts invading their neighbors and gassing Kurds (future tense).

Why would they? And don't you get the news? If you knew history, you would not ask, Cup-Cake.

 

[Meathead]

Why would they? And don't you get the news? If you knew history, you would not ask, Cup-Cake.

Indeed, they don't now, but then they did under your the man whose death you so mourn.

But seriously, I certainly do not need a history lesson by a snowflake. Find a safe space where you can dazzle other ding bats with your deep knowledge of things you know so little about.