Arizona Willie
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Yes many Democratic Congressmen voted for the war.
They didn't believe that a President would TELL THEM BALD FACED LIES.
THEY WERE WRONG.
Bush didn't just lie........
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Yes many Democratic Congressmen voted for the war.
They didn't believe that a President would TELL THEM BALD FACED LIES.
THEY WERE WRONG.
GWV5903
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They read the same f'ing Intel Willie...
You've been in the AZ SUN TOO LONG, YOUR F'ING BRAIN IS FRIED!!!
Tuatara
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Seriously. Why do you keep saying this it has been proven to be false time and time again.
Here is a refresher with dates and links
Tuatara
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Sorry wrong page but it ties in anyway.
Here it is:
FACT — Dissent From White House Claims on Iraq Nuclear Program Consistently Withheld from Congress:
Several Congressional and intelligence officials with access to the 15 assessments [of intel suggesting aluminum tubes showed Iraq was reconstituting its nuclear program] said not one of them informed senior policy makers of the Energy Department’s dissent. They described a series of reports, some with ominous titles, that failed to convey either the existence or the substance of the intensifying debate.” [NYT, 10/3/04]
FACT — Sen. Kerrey: Bush “Has Much More Access” to Intel Than Congress:
Former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE), ex-Senate Intelligence Committee vice chairman: “The president has much more access to intelligence than members of Congress does. Ask any member of Congress. Ask a Republican member of Congress, do you get the same access to intelligence that the president does? Look at these aluminum tube stories that came out the president delivered to the Congress — ‘We believe these would be used for centrifuges.’ — didn’t deliver to Congress the full range of objections from the Department of Energy experts, nuclear weapons experts, that said it’s unlikely they were for centrifuges, more likely that they were for rockets, which was a pre-existing use. The president has much more access to intelligence than any member of Congress.” [10/7/04]
FACT — Rockefeller: PDBs, CIA Intel Withheld From Senate:
Ranking minority member on the Senate Intelligence Committee Jay Rockefeller (D-WV): “[P]eople say, ‘Well, you know, you all had the same intelligence that the White House had.’ And I’m here to tell you that is nowhere near the truth. We not only don’t have, nor probably should we have, the Presidential Daily Brief. We don’t have the constant people who are working on intelligence who are very close to him. They don’t release their — an administration which tends not to release — not just the White House, but the CIA, DOD [Department of Defense], others — they control information. There’s a lot of intelligence that we don’t get that they have.” [11/04/05]
FACT — War Supporter Ken Pollack: White House Engaged in “Creative Omission” of Iraq Intel:
In the eyes of Kenneth Pollack, “a Clinton-era National Security Council member and strong supporter of regime change in Iraq,” “the Administration consistently engaged in ‘creative omission,’ overstating the imminence of the Iraqi threat, even though it had evidence to the contrary. ‘The President is responsible for serving the entire nation,’ Pollack writes. ‘Only the Administration has access to all the information available to various agencies of the US government – and withholding or downplaying some of that information for its own purposes is a betrayal of that responsibility.'” [Christian Science Monitor, 1/14/04]
FACT — White House Had Exclusive Access to “Unique” Intel Sources:
“The claim that the White House and Congress saw the ‘same intelligence’ on Iraq is further undermined by the Bush administration’s use of outside intelligence channels. For more than year prior to the war, the administration received intelligence assessments and analysis on Iraq directly from the Department of Defense’s Office of Special Plans (OSP), run by then-undersecretary of defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, and the Iraqi National Congress (INC), a group of Iraqi exiles led by Ahmed Chalabi.” [MediaMatters, 11/8/05]
Bush Resurrects False Claim That Congress Had “Same Intelligence” On Iraq
Here it is:
FACT — Dissent From White House Claims on Iraq Nuclear Program Consistently Withheld from Congress:
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FACT — Sen. Kerrey: Bush “Has Much More Access” to Intel Than Congress:
Former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE), ex-Senate Intelligence Committee vice chairman: “The president has much more access to intelligence than members of Congress does. Ask any member of Congress. Ask a Republican member of Congress, do you get the same access to intelligence that the president does? Look at these aluminum tube stories that came out the president delivered to the Congress — ‘We believe these would be used for centrifuges.’ — didn’t deliver to Congress the full range of objections from the Department of Energy experts, nuclear weapons experts, that said it’s unlikely they were for centrifuges, more likely that they were for rockets, which was a pre-existing use. The president has much more access to intelligence than any member of Congress.” [10/7/04]
FACT — Rockefeller: PDBs, CIA Intel Withheld From Senate:
Ranking minority member on the Senate Intelligence Committee Jay Rockefeller (D-WV): “[P]eople say, ‘Well, you know, you all had the same intelligence that the White House had.’ And I’m here to tell you that is nowhere near the truth. We not only don’t have, nor probably should we have, the Presidential Daily Brief. We don’t have the constant people who are working on intelligence who are very close to him. They don’t release their — an administration which tends not to release — not just the White House, but the CIA, DOD [Department of Defense], others — they control information. There’s a lot of intelligence that we don’t get that they have.” [11/04/05]
FACT — War Supporter Ken Pollack: White House Engaged in “Creative Omission” of Iraq Intel:
In the eyes of Kenneth Pollack, “a Clinton-era National Security Council member and strong supporter of regime change in Iraq,” “the Administration consistently engaged in ‘creative omission,’ overstating the imminence of the Iraqi threat, even though it had evidence to the contrary. ‘The President is responsible for serving the entire nation,’ Pollack writes. ‘Only the Administration has access to all the information available to various agencies of the US government – and withholding or downplaying some of that information for its own purposes is a betrayal of that responsibility.'” [Christian Science Monitor, 1/14/04]
FACT — White House Had Exclusive Access to “Unique” Intel Sources:
“The claim that the White House and Congress saw the ‘same intelligence’ on Iraq is further undermined by the Bush administration’s use of outside intelligence channels. For more than year prior to the war, the administration received intelligence assessments and analysis on Iraq directly from the Department of Defense’s Office of Special Plans (OSP), run by then-undersecretary of defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, and the Iraqi National Congress (INC), a group of Iraqi exiles led by Ahmed Chalabi.” [MediaMatters, 11/8/05]
Faun
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Hisses the tard caught posting bullshit about Graham signing a letter he didn't sign.
Mertex
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He's had too many bumps to his head, it is obvious. He's obviously one of the 10 people that still believe Bush was being honest.......
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Mertex
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Bwahahahha.....the fact that you have to TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS SHOWS THAT YOU'RE UPSET BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE OF VERY FEW CUCKOOS HOLDING ON TO THE POSITION THAT BUSHIE WAS HONEST. YELLING DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS, DUMMY.
Mertex
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Bwahahahaha....you can't face the fact that Trump is going to be your Republican candidate........and Trump himself said that Bush lied.....so how ******* stupid are you?
During Saturday night's GOP debate, Donald Trump said, "The Iraq War was a big, fat mistake."
He said later, "They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none. They knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction."
Trump: Bush Lied, People Died
Mertex
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You keep denying the fact that Bush altered the intel. As long as you keep ignoring facts, you'll remain ignorant, dummy.
George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie
George W. Bush’s CIA briefer admits Iraq WMD “intelligence” was a lie
GWV5903
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Does it taste like shit when you blow so much crap out of your ass?
I know it's hard for you to deal with the truth, it's impossible for you to admit that the Democrats leadership supported the Iraq War. It's even harder for you to admit they were wrong too if Bush was so wrong. This is were your spine falls to pieces and you don't even know it happened...
It's interesting to watch the Monday Morning QB's of the Liberal Left try to sully Bush and develop amnesia at the same time in regards to the votes they made to support the invasion. The only lies here are the lies from the Left with its denial they believed the Intel.
GWV5903
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Yeah Bill Clinton was so honest, Gore is the second coming of Mother Teresa, Hillary is teaching future low life Liberals how to manipulate the system and you sit here and turn a blind eye to their support to go forward with the Iraq invasion. History is the best teacher, yet Obama hasn't really changed the Radical Islamic world, in fact it can easily be argued today we are in more danger than we where prior to 911.
The ostrich has the ridicule for placing their heads in the sand, you on the other hand don't have that excuse...
To learn, grow and develop relationships open and honest candor is needed, you can't get past 1st base...
Faun
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Speaking of blowing crap .... why am I still waiting for you to post a link to prove factcheck.org claimed Graham signed the letter he didn't sign? Can't you back up your claims?
Tuatara
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Here comes the profanity. The last resort of the beaten. I see you waving your white flag. Your next step is to apologize and admit you were wrong. If you are big enough. Go ahead. It will feel good to get it off your chest.
GWV5903
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Apologize? Really? Oh shit you really can't admit the truth can you? They voted for it dumb dumb....
GWV5903
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Is it impossible for you to comprehend or do you need to repeat the same thing multiply times to absorb it?
Faun
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So I'm supposed to ignore some of your bullshit?
I take this to mean you were also lying when you said factcheck.org confirmed Graham signed that letter; which explains why you can't prove it.
LogikAndReazon
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Comical.....
Dems were duped...... Precious
Dems were duped...... Precious
Faun
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Umm... that was also Bush's excuse.
Mertex
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Quit deflecting, moron. Bush lied, and you can keep defending him till the cows come home....isn't going to change facts. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, it seems to give you some comfort.
In his book, Courage and Consequence, Rove calls the “lie” charge “a poison-tipped dagger aimed at the heart of the Bush presidency” and blames himself for “a weak response” that underestimated “how damaging this assault was.”
President George W. Bush in poster by Robbie Conal at robbieconal.com
But the problem with Rove’s account is that not only did Bush oversee the twisting of intelligence to justify invading Iraq in March 2003 but he subsequently lied and lied repeatedly about how Iraq had responded to United Nations inspection demands.
Bush Did Lie About Iraq – Consortiumnews
GWV5903
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You know the world you live in is perfect, you make no mistakes, are never at fault and blame everyone else when something goes wrong...
The real world requires accepting fault, I have never defended Bush about this in this debate. What you fail miserably at is accepting multiply Democrats agreed, to this day you can't make that distinction without calling him a liar, I know I know I know, those high integrity Democrats never ever lied about anything...
You're as dumb as a stump Myrtle...
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