Bureau of Land Management vs Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, and the US Constitution

[Contumacious]

Should the BLM go to jail for arson of ranchers homes, cattle, and ranches??????????

Should they be held to the same standard of a private controlled burn.?????????

According to the cockroaches pretending to be federal judges it is constitutional for them to steal those lands and do whatever they want to do with impunity.


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[ogibillm]

This is what sparked the latest exchange.

Judge sends Oregon ranchers back to prison

A federal judge in Eugene, Ore., gave the father and son credit for time served but ordered them to serve the remainder of their mandatory five-year sentences for burning BLM rangeland.


EUGENE, Ore. — A father and son who raise cattle in Eastern Oregon are headed back to federal prison for committing arson on public land.

Dwight Lincoln Hammond, 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46, were sentenced on Oct. 7 to five years in prison for illegally setting fires on U.S. Bureau of Land Management property near Diamond, Ore.

The ranchers had already served shorter sentences because the federal judge originally overseeing their case said the five-year minimum requirement “would shock the conscience.”

The Hammonds were subject to re-sentencing because the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threw out those original prison terms for igniting fires in 2001 and 2006 as too lenient.

not as too lenient. as too illegal.

what part of mandatory did you not understand?

 

[Contumacious]

The gestapo brought arms, stole the land and got away with murder. What am I missing?

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[Mustang]

Conservatives LOVE to talk about the Constitution, and the rule of law, and that we're a nation of laws and not men. But talk is cheap.

This can be witnessed when a man who calls himself conservative is guilty of just about anything...including treason.

Take Ollie North, for example. He ran a shadow gov't out of the basement of the WH. Some people think Reagan, the conservatives' hero, lied when he said he knew nothing about it, but that doesn't change the fact that Reagan was adamant that he had no knowledge of what was happening right under his floor boards, not to mention his nose. What was the reaction of conservatives? It was unabashed and unqualified support for North who they hailed as a hero.

It's not like that's the only example, either.

Remember Jonathan Pollard, the former intelligence analyst for the US. Govt? He spied for Israel and divulged numerous top secret information for them. Yet conservatives have been lobbying for years to get him released despite the fact that he received a life sentence.

I could go on, but what's the point?

Bundy and his ilk are just the latest sign that conservatives will support anyone who calls himself a conservative, regardless of what crimes he commits.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The gestapo brought arms, stole the land and got away with murder. What am I missing?

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That wasn't the gestapo. That was the 7th Cavalry. However, they paid a steep price for it.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The gestapo brought arms, stole the land and got away with murder. What am I missing?

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Apparently logic and reason

 

[Contumacious]

Oregon Standoff: Federal Land Grab vs. the Sagebrush Rebellion

The occupation of the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon by a small group of armed protesters represents a new and confrontational tactic in the Sagebrush Rebellion–the decades old struggle of Western ranchers against federal control of state lands. While the majority of rancher disputes are against the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) the US Fish and Wildlife Service has been just as ruthless–in this case expanding the wildlife refuge at the expense of neighboring ranchers. This week I’ll detail the struggle of the Hammond family, and of Ammon Bundy the protest leader. When you read the litany of federal abuse of ranching families, you will better understand why some ranchers are staging an armed resistance. I also give some suggestions on how this can be resolved peacefully.

The continuous criminal enterprise continues to slaughter Americans , perpetrate treason against the Constitution while the narcotized populace pick their collective noses and propel and avowed socialist to the Whitehouse.

For shame

What land have they grabbed?

You do realize that the land where that sanctuary is was BOUGHT over 100 years ago by the US federal government don't you?

Ever hear of a man by the name of Theodore Roosevelt?

He was president a the beginning of the 20th century.

He had the federal government BUY that land from those who owned it which is what the constitution requires.

So there is no land grab.

Stop lying.

BULLSHIT , YOU STUPID FASCIST ************


"Notice, those lands have to be specifically ceded by the states through consent of the state legislatures; they cannot be taken arbitrarily by government. The federal government got around this by making federal ownership of large parts of Western territories a condition of statehood. This had never been done to any state until the territories west of the Dakotas, down through Texas became states. Nevada was literally robbed of 84.5% of its land. In most western states the federal government owns more than half of the land mass. This is outrageous. Here is a link to a map showing the sad facts."

 

[eagle1462010]

Conservatives LOVE to talk about the Constitution, and the rule of law, and that we're a nation of laws and not men. But talk is cheap.

This can be witnessed when a man who calls himself conservative is guilty of just about anything...including treason.

Take Ollie North, for example. He ran a shadow gov't out of the basement of the WH. Some people think Reagan, the conservatives' hero, lied when he said he knew nothing about it, but that doesn't change the fact that Reagan was adamant that he had no knowledge of what was happening right under his floor boards, not to mention his nose. What was the reaction of conservatives? It was unabashed and unqualified support for North who they hailed as a hero.

It's not like that's the only example, either.

Remember Jonathan Pollard, the former intelligence analyst for the US. Govt? He spied for Israel and divulged numerous top secret information for them. Yet conservatives have been lobbying for years to get him released despite the fact that he received a life sentence.

I could go on, but what's the point?

Bundy and his ilk are just the latest sign that conservatives will support anyone who calls himself a conservative, regardless of what crimes he commits.

Funny your avatar has a mustang on it..............Tell me about the wild burro's and wild horses fate by the BLM.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Dana, I think he irritated with you....

 

[Contumacious]

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

LISTEN , YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT , HAD HE INTENDED TO KILL THE GESTAPO HE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THE SUV RIGHT INTO THE CHECKPOINT.


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[Contumacious]

The gestapo brought arms, stole the land and got away with murder. What am I missing?

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Apparently logic and reason

I see, it is logical and reasonable for innocent Americans to die when the gestapo is present.

Ask the Davidians.

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[NYcarbineer]

The conservative creed,

A government of Me, by Me, and for Me.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You know, we could make the RW easy button argument here,

nobody would be dead if these people had just obeyed the law, said yes sir no sir to the police, and done what they were told....

 

[Vandalshandle]

Wait for it, folks! Here comes Ruby Ridge!

 

[ogibillm]

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

LISTEN , YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT , HAD HE INTENDED TO KILL THE GESTAPO HE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THE SUV RIGHT INTO THE CHECKPOINT.


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why do you love terrorists?

 

[Contumacious]

Conservatives LOVE to talk about the Constitution, and the rule of law, and that we're a nation of laws and not men. But talk is cheap.

This can be witnessed when a man who calls himself conservative is guilty of just about anything...including treason.

Take Ollie North, for example. He ran a shadow gov't out of the basement of the WH. Some people think Reagan, the conservatives' hero, lied when he said he knew nothing about it, but that doesn't change the fact that Reagan was adamant that he had no knowledge of what was happening right under his floor boards, not to mention his nose. What was the reaction of conservatives? It was unabashed and unqualified support for North who they hailed as a hero.

It's not like that's the only example, either.

Remember Jonathan Pollard, the former intelligence analyst for the US. Govt? He spied for Israel and divulged numerous top secret information for them. Yet conservatives have been lobbying for years to get him released despite the fact that he received a life sentence.

I could go on, but what's the point?

Bundy and his ilk are just the latest sign that conservatives will support anyone who calls himself a conservative, regardless of what crimes he commits.

Socialists/Fascists will support any entity which is UNconstituional, anti-freedom, anti-american.


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[Contumacious]

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

LISTEN , YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT , HAD HE INTENDED TO KILL THE GESTAPO HE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THE SUV RIGHT INTO THE CHECKPOINT.


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why do you love terrorists?

WHY DO YOU LOVE TERRORISTS?!?!?!?!?!?


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[ogibillm]

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

Execution style killing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


.

No it wasn't.

The man was reaching for his gun.

Stop lying.

LISTEN , YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT , HAD HE INTENDED TO KILL THE GESTAPO HE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN THE SUV RIGHT INTO THE CHECKPOINT.


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why do you love terrorists?

WHY DO YOU LOVE TERRORISTS?!?!?!?!?!?


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i'm not lamenting the justified shooting of an armed terrorist. you are.

 

[eagle1462010]

The BLM lost this case in court.................BTW

 

[Contumacious]

You know, we could make the RW easy button argument here,

nobody would be dead if these people had just obeyed the law, said yes sir no sir to the police, and done what they were told....

HUH?

THEY WERE OBEYING THE LAW.


I BELIEVE THE US CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.


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