Brrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

[Sinatra]

 

[Toro]

I'd be more than happy if we have another cool summer.

 

[Burp]

Damn that global warming!

 

[FactFinder]

I'd be more than happy if we have another cool summer.

Looks likely. I sure wish Spring was a bitt warmer. I want my .7 degrees C back.

 

[Sinatra]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

 

[FactFinder]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

Hell even an infidel like myself knows the reasons. We are at a solar minimum. An extended one. So far in 2009 alone there had been 90 days without sunspots. Corresponding with that is the Pacific Decadal Ocillation. That sucker has shifted and is expected to provide us poor souls with 30 years of cooling.

 

[KittenKoder]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

They latch on to any trend and try to make it sound much worse than it is ... as well as try to say it's all caused by the same thing until we get smart to it, then they just change the cause. It's all a ball-n-cup game now.

 

[k2skier]

NASA GISS: Research News: 2008 Was Earth's Coolest Year Since 2000

2008 Was Earth's Coolest Year Since 2000

Left: Annual-mean global-mean anomalies. Right: Global map of surface temperature anomalies for 2008. Click image to enlarge. Credit: NASA GISS

The ten warmest years on record have all occurred between 1997 and 2008.

The GISS analysis found that the global average surface air temperature was 0.44°C (0.79°F) above the global mean for 1951 to 1980, the baseline period for the study. Most of the world was either near normal or warmer in 2008 than the norm. Eurasia, the Arctic, and the Antarctic Peninsula were exceptionally warm (see figures), while much of the Pacific Ocean was cooler than the long-term average.

The relatively low temperature in the tropical Pacific was due to a strong La Niña that existed in the first half of the year, the research team noted. La Niña and El Niño are opposite phases of a natural oscillation of equatorial Pacific Ocean temperatures over several years. La Niña is the cool phase. The warmer El Niño phase typically follows within a year or two of La Niña.

The temperature in the United States in 2008 was not much different than the 1951-1980 mean, which makes it cooler than all the previous years this decade.



Any more false opinions you'd care to share with us?

 

[FactFinder]

NASA GISS: Research News: 2008 Was Earth's Coolest Year Since 2000

2008 Was Earth's Coolest Year Since 2000

Left: Annual-mean global-mean anomalies. Right: Global map of surface temperature anomalies for 2008. Click image to enlarge. Credit: NASA GISS

The ten warmest years on record have all occurred between 1997 and 2008.

The GISS analysis found that the global average surface air temperature was 0.44°C (0.79°F) above the global mean for 1951 to 1980, the baseline period for the study. Most of the world was either near normal or warmer in 2008 than the norm. Eurasia, the Arctic, and the Antarctic Peninsula were exceptionally warm (see figures), while much of the Pacific Ocean was cooler than the long-term average.

The relatively low temperature in the tropical Pacific was due to a strong La Niña that existed in the first half of the year, the research team noted. La Niña and El Niño are opposite phases of a natural oscillation of equatorial Pacific Ocean temperatures over several years. La Niña is the cool phase. The warmer El Niño phase typically follows within a year or two of La Niña.

The temperature in the United States in 2008 was not much different than the 1951-1980 mean, which makes it cooler than all the previous years this decade.



Any more false opinions you'd care to share with us?

Now skier you seem a reasonable soul. Would you agree that if you have just climbed Everest to it peak and have just started the descent you are still at some of the highest elevations but descending you are.

 

[KittenKoder]

If our records were more accurate then that would be completely false ... oh wait .... they are. Archaeologists have shown that there were many "warmest" years long before our records.

 

[Old Rocks]

The Lower 48 is about 2% of the worlds surface. In 1934, we had a very warm year, yet the rest of the world did not. We had a cool 2008, yet, for the world, 2008 tied with 2001 as the eighth warmest on record.

 

[FactFinder]

Environmental Religion and Dr. James Hansen Exposed

After the GISS data error was revealed, Hansen finally agreed to make public the method he uses to generate "official" temperature records from the actual readings. That process has been revealed to be thousands of lines of source code, containing hundreds of arbitrary "bias" adjustments to individual sites, tossing out many readings entirely, and raising (or lowering) the actual values for others, sometimes by several degrees. Many areas with weak or no rising temperature trends are therefore given, after adjustment, a much sharper trend. A full audit of the Hansen code is currently underway, but it seems clear that Hansen has more explaining to do.

 

[Old Rocks]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

Hell even an infidel like myself knows the reasons. We are at a solar minimum. An extended one. So far in 2009 alone there had been 90 days without sunspots. Corresponding with that is the Pacific Decadal Ocillation. That sucker has shifted and is expected to provide us poor souls with 30 years of cooling.

And we are still have record warm years. What does that say?

 

[Sinatra]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

Hell even an infidel like myself knows the reasons. We are at a solar minimum. An extended one. So far in 2009 alone there had been 90 days without sunspots. Corresponding with that is the Pacific Decadal Ocillation. That sucker has shifted and is expected to provide us poor souls with 30 years of cooling.

Agreed - there has been consistent regard for solar activity within the scientific communty regarding impacts upon climate - but the man-made global warming junta aggressively disregards such obvious links. Why? There is no money to be made if one agrees the sun is a far more powerful and influential factor in determining the earth's climate, even as the most basic of science points to the sun as being the most critical factor - I mean really, it's the damn sun!

Statistics have pointed to a cooling trend for a decade now - thus the hastily and widely circulated change from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". Now, as earth's temperatures fail to cooperate with the doom n gloom projections of the 1990s, we see the same type of projected science being utilized regarding arctic and antarctic ice - a shameless ploy that gets a huge assist from the mainstream media - and multi-nationals like GE who have invested hundreds of millions in selling the global warming lie in order to maximize bottom line profits.

The polar ice caps have lessened and increased long before man was a speck upon this planet. In 2007 there were a myriad of doom n gloom retreating ice stories that suddenly had to fall silent when the overwhelming evidence showed the ice had experienced substantial growth - now that the normal melt cycle is starting up, we see these stories being re-circulated yet again. Attention is now being diverted from the far less reliable global temperatures, to the far more reliable yearly ice melts. And despite highly selective and slanted interpretive reporting regarding arctic sea ice, that sea ice has in fact increased to levels not seen since 1979.

DailyTech - Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979


As for the Stieg Antarctice claim of widespread warming, that was almost immiediately discredited, though it still is cited by less than knowledgeables such as we find in here.

Yet another explanation of how Stieg cherry-picked and projected his data to come up with a pre-determined outcome. Factually, the vast majority of the Antarctice has cooled, not warmed, over the last 30 years.

Steig’s Antarctic Heartburn « Watts Up With That?

 

[FactFinder]

heehee Hansen's own admission of his arbitrary SAT measurements.

Data @ NASA GISS: GISTEMP -- Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature (SAT)

When asked what is meant by Surface Air Temperature (SAT) Dr Hansen explains:

“I doubt that there is a general agreement how to answer this question. Even at the same location, the temperature near the ground may be very different from the temperature 5 ft above the ground and different again from 10ft or 50ft above the ground. Particularly in the presence of vegetation (say in a rain forest) the temperature above the vegetation may be very different from the temperature below the top of the vegetation. A reasonable suggestion might be to use the average temperature of the first 50ft of air either above ground or on top of the vegetation. To measure SAT we have to agree on what it is and, as far as I know, no such standard has been adopted. I cannot imagine that a weather station would build a 50ft stack of thermometers to be able to find the true SAT at its location.”

The moral of the story...You can't trust GISS data as long as Hansen is in charge.

 

[Old Rocks]

And scientists admitting earth's temperatures have remained stagnant this decade, with a current cooling trend that could very well extend out to a 30-year cooling trend. Of course they also warn that after these 30 years, global warming could be back more than ever. (strike up the doom n gloom music here)

Of particular note are these scientists admitting they really have no clue why the earth has cooled in recent years. Folks, they have never really had a clue - man-made global warming is merely another religion. Al Gore is its savior - Hansen its John-the-Baptist - and the IPCC its version of the Medieval Catholic Church.

Global Warming: On Hold?: Discovery News

Hell even an infidel like myself knows the reasons. We are at a solar minimum. An extended one. So far in 2009 alone there had been 90 days without sunspots. Corresponding with that is the Pacific Decadal Ocillation. That sucker has shifted and is expected to provide us poor souls with 30 years of cooling.

Agreed - there has been consistent regard for solar activity within the scientific communty regarding impacts upon climate - but the man-made global warming junta aggressively disregards such obvious links. Why? There is no money to be made if one agrees the sun is a far more powerful and influential factor in determining the earth's climate, even as the most basic of science points to the sun as being the most critical factor - I mean really, it's the damn sun!

Statistics have pointed to a cooling trend for a decade now - thus the hastily and widely circulated change from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". Now, as earth's temperatures fail to cooperate with the doom n gloom projections of the 1990s, we see the same type of projected science being utilized regarding arctic and antarctic ice - a shameless ploy that gets a huge assist from the mainstream media - and multi-nationals like GE who have invested hundreds of millions in selling the global warming lie in order to maximize bottom line profits.

The polar ice caps have lessened and increased long before man was a speck upon this planet. In 2007 there were a myriad of doom n gloom retreating ice stories that suddenly had to fall silent when the overwhelming evidence showed the ice had experienced substantial growth - now that the normal melt cycle is starting up, we see these stories being re-circulated yet again. Attention is now being diverted from the far less reliable global temperatures, to the far more reliable yearly ice melts. And despite highly selective and slanted interpretive reporting regarding arctic sea ice, that sea ice has in fact increased to levels not seen since 1979.

DailyTech - Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979


As for the Stieg Antarctice claim of widespread warming, that was almost immiediately discredited, though it still is cited by less than knowledgeables such as we find in here.

Yet another explanation of how Stieg cherry-picked and projected his data to come up with a pre-determined outcome. Factually, the vast majority of the Antarctice has cooled, not warmed, over the last 30 years.

Steig’s Antarctic Heartburn « Watts Up With That?

Total BS. The ice in 2008 was less in volume than in 2007. However, it was thinner and covered more area. Right now we are seeing a lot of thin first year ice.
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

 

[FactFinder]

Yes there must be 1st year ice before there is 2nd and thicker. Did you happen to see that there is 2nd year ice left from last year?

 

[FactFinder]

Oh Old rocks, what did you think of this?

heehee Hansen's own admission of his arbitrary SAT measurements.

Data @ NASA GISS: GISTEMP -- Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature (SAT)

When asked what is meant by Surface Air Temperature (SAT) Dr Hansen explains:

“I doubt that there is a general agreement how to answer this question. Even at the same location, the temperature near the ground may be very different from the temperature 5 ft above the ground and different again from 10ft or 50ft above the ground. Particularly in the presence of vegetation (say in a rain forest) the temperature above the vegetation may be very different from the temperature below the top of the vegetation. A reasonable suggestion might be to use the average temperature of the first 50ft of air either above ground or on top of the vegetation. To measure SAT we have to agree on what it is and, as far as I know, no such standard has been adopted. I cannot imagine that a weather station would build a 50ft stack of thermometers to be able to find the true SAT at its location.”

The moral of the story...You can't trust GISS data as long as Hansen is in charge.

 

[Old Rocks]

Oh Old rocks, what did you think of this?

heehee Hansen's own admission of his arbitrary SAT measurements.

Data @ NASA GISS: GISTEMP -- Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature (SAT)

When asked what is meant by Surface Air Temperature (SAT) Dr Hansen explains:

“I doubt that there is a general agreement how to answer this question. Even at the same location, the temperature near the ground may be very different from the temperature 5 ft above the ground and different again from 10ft or 50ft above the ground. Particularly in the presence of vegetation (say in a rain forest) the temperature above the vegetation may be very different from the temperature below the top of the vegetation. A reasonable suggestion might be to use the average temperature of the first 50ft of air either above ground or on top of the vegetation. To measure SAT we have to agree on what it is and, as far as I know, no such standard has been adopted. I cannot imagine that a weather station would build a 50ft stack of thermometers to be able to find the true SAT at its location.”

The moral of the story...You can't trust GISS data as long as Hansen is in charge.

For individual stations, on individual dates, true. Yet, by looking at all the measurements taken over the years, we can see whether these stations are showing a general warming or cooling for that particular station.

The moral is that you fools will grab anything at all to back up your misbegotten ideology.

 

[FactFinder]

Oh Old rocks, what did you think of this?

heehee Hansen's own admission of his arbitrary SAT measurements.

Data @ NASA GISS: GISTEMP -- Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis
The Elusive Absolute Surface Air Temperature (SAT)

When asked what is meant by Surface Air Temperature (SAT) Dr Hansen explains:

“I doubt that there is a general agreement how to answer this question. Even at the same location, the temperature near the ground may be very different from the temperature 5 ft above the ground and different again from 10ft or 50ft above the ground. Particularly in the presence of vegetation (say in a rain forest) the temperature above the vegetation may be very different from the temperature below the top of the vegetation. A reasonable suggestion might be to use the average temperature of the first 50ft of air either above ground or on top of the vegetation. To measure SAT we have to agree on what it is and, as far as I know, no such standard has been adopted. I cannot imagine that a weather station would build a 50ft stack of thermometers to be able to find the true SAT at its location.”

The moral of the story...You can't trust GISS data as long as Hansen is in charge.

For individual stations, on individual dates, true. Yet, by looking at all the measurements taken over the years, we can see whether these stations are showing a general warming or cooling for that particular station.

The moral is that you fools will grab anything at all to back up your misbegotten ideology.

He states that you would have to have stacks of thermometers 50 ' high for any accuracy. No stations are doing that.