British MPs vote to recognise Palestinian state

[Truthseeker420]

Good for Great Britain !

 

[toastman]

I agree Bullshitseeker ! A huge victory for Palestine !

 

[Indofred]

Perhaps you'd like to address that issue, rather than be pedantic.

Well obviously I would never condone something disgusting like that. Who is this doctor?

But as a Muslim, you know very well that in the ME, the ones that are Nazis are the Muslim leaders.

I see you can't.

 

[Indofred]

Now I'm sure you're going to vigorously search for an incident where an Israeli mother expressed her pride over the fact that her son murdered Palestinians.

Didn't take much of a search - first hit.

PressTV - Mothers of all Palestinians must be killed Israeli MP

A well-known Israeli politician and parliament member has branded Palestinians as terrorists, saying mothers of all Palestinians should also be killed during the ongoing Israeli assault on the besieged Gaza Strip, Daily Sabah reported.

Ayelet Shaked of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party called for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to "little snakes."

This Israeli ***** called for women to be murdered if trheir sons are suspected of attacking Israel.

That's not what I asked you moron. Try again

I'm most of the way there, she has two bastard sons.

No, you didn't come close. I brought up Palestinian mothers who express their pride and joy over the fact that their child has become a martyr and killed innocent Israelis. It's a Muslim thing. The ***** probably brainwashed her son to believe that killing Israelis makes Allah happy. And he taught his kids the same.
IT's a vicious cycle.

Why are her sons bastards?

She is so, by her logic, the sons must be as well.
You see, she blames the whole family for things she disagrees with, so her sons are now legitimate targets.

 

[Indofred]

I agree Bullshitseeker ! A huge victory for Palestine !

It is; that's why the Zionist lot are going ape shit about it.
Suck on that, ******!

 

[toastman]

I agree Bullshitseeker ! A huge victory for Palestine !

It is; that's why the Zionist lot are going ape shit about it.
Suck on that, ******!

How did you come to the conclusion that they are going Ape shit over it ? Can you give me some examples?

 

[toastman]

Now I'm sure you're going to vigorously search for an incident where an Israeli mother expressed her pride over the fact that her son murdered Palestinians.

Didn't take much of a search - first hit.

PressTV - Mothers of all Palestinians must be killed Israeli MP

A well-known Israeli politician and parliament member has branded Palestinians as terrorists, saying mothers of all Palestinians should also be killed during the ongoing Israeli assault on the besieged Gaza Strip, Daily Sabah reported.

Ayelet Shaked of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party called for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to "little snakes."

This Israeli ***** called for women to be murdered if trheir sons are suspected of attacking Israel.

That's not what I asked you moron. Try again

I'm most of the way there, she has two bastard sons.

No, you didn't come close. I brought up Palestinian mothers who express their pride and joy over the fact that their child has become a martyr and killed innocent Israelis. It's a Muslim thing. The ***** probably brainwashed her son to believe that killing Israelis makes Allah happy. And he taught his kids the same.
IT's a vicious cycle.

Why are her sons bastards?

She is so, by her logic, the sons must be as well.
You see, she blames the whole family for things she disagrees with, so her sons are now legitimate targets.

But you criticized her logic and now you are using it. Very hypocritical.
Now why don't you translate you sig in English for the non - Hebrew speakers here.

 

[Beelzebub]

No one said it was easy.
It is just the right thing to do.

As to UKIP they are about excessive migration into the country which would / is already causing issues.

If the Palestinians had only had their own "UKIP" in the 1920's they may have avoided a lot of issues.

But I think you might want to reserve a discussion on them for another forum.

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

 

[Beelzebub]

Lipush is a hopeless fanatic. His idol is an Irgun commander, the terrorist group.

Lipush is a female.

And this coming from the scumbag who said he HOPES settlers get killed.

That doesn't sound like you at all Monte.

Toasty must be confused. If you had said that there would be a quick enough way for Toast to make his point by quoting it.

I expect he is taking about when the Zionists were saying that all Israel Adults were either IDF or reservists and possibly militia, and as such were legitimate military targets for Hamas.

Not confused at all. I remember it clearly.

BTW, how much does Monti pay you to be his secretary ?

Ok. So link to it, or quote it.

 

[toastman]

No one said it was easy.
It is just the right thing to do.

As to UKIP they are about excessive migration into the country which would / is already causing issues.

If the Palestinians had only had their own "UKIP" in the 1920's they may have avoided a lot of issues.

But I think you might want to reserve a discussion on them for another forum.

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

What specifically did she lie about

No one said it was easy.
It is just the right thing to do.

As to UKIP they are about excessive migration into the country which would / is already causing issues.

If the Palestinians had only had their own "UKIP" in the 1920's they may have avoided a lot of issues.

But I think you might want to reserve a discussion on them for another forum.

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

Instead of spewing your usual 'Zionist Lies', why don't you tell us what specifically she lied about.

 

[Beelzebub]

Lipush is a hopeless fanatic. His idol is an Irgun commander, the terrorist group.

Lipush is a female.

And this coming from the scumbag who said he HOPES settlers get killed.

That doesn't sound like you at all Monte.

Toasty must be confused. If you had said that there would be a quick enough way for Toast to make his point by quoting it.

I expect he is taking about when the Zionists were saying that all Israel Adults were either IDF or reservists and possibly militia, and as such were legitimate military targets for Hamas.

Not confused at all. I remember it clearly.

BTW, how much does Monti pay you to be his secretary ?

You are very confused. You cannot point to any post where I said such a thing.

It happened months ago. You expect me to go search your post history?
It doesn't change the fact that you did say it. The fact that you deny it shows what a coward you are

I think, Toasty, that you making wild accusations that you cannot back up then calling Monte a coward for calling you out on it makes you a little unhinged.

Do you have a psychiatric professional in regular attendance or should we be worried for you?

 

[Indofred]

Didn't take much of a search - first hit.

PressTV - Mothers of all Palestinians must be killed Israeli MP



This Israeli ***** called for women to be murdered if trheir sons are suspected of attacking Israel.

That's not what I asked you moron. Try again

I'm most of the way there, she has two bastard sons.

No, you didn't come close. I brought up Palestinian mothers who express their pride and joy over the fact that their child has become a martyr and killed innocent Israelis. It's a Muslim thing. The ***** probably brainwashed her son to believe that killing Israelis makes Allah happy. And he taught his kids the same.
IT's a vicious cycle.

Why are her sons bastards?

She is so, by her logic, the sons must be as well.
You see, she blames the whole family for things she disagrees with, so her sons are now legitimate targets.

But you criticized her logic and now you are using it. Very hypocritical.
Now why don't you translate you sig in English for the non - Hebrew speakers here.

Not using it, just showing how stupid she is.
As for my sig, it says Israel is like sex with a pig; no reasonable people want it.

Is that not true?

 

[Beelzebub]

No one said it was easy.
It is just the right thing to do.

As to UKIP they are about excessive migration into the country which would / is already causing issues.

If the Palestinians had only had their own "UKIP" in the 1920's they may have avoided a lot of issues.

But I think you might want to reserve a discussion on them for another forum.

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

What specifically did she lie about

No one said it was easy.
It is just the right thing to do.

As to UKIP they are about excessive migration into the country which would / is already causing issues.

If the Palestinians had only had their own "UKIP" in the 1920's they may have avoided a lot of issues.

But I think you might want to reserve a discussion on them for another forum.

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

Instead of spewing your usual 'Zionist Lies', why don't you tell us what specifically she lied about.

Would it be of great interest to you?

The thing is, there are many Zionist lies. The best one is "God gave them Zion which is why they moved in and dispossessed the Palestinians." This is most ironic for the secular Jews who don't believe in God, but do believe he gave them the land.
Another is "A land without people for a people without land."
Another is "We don't do Apartheid."
Another is "We cannot talk to terrorists," When Israelis are the most successful terrorists to date.
Another is "The IDF don't use Human Shields."

They do go on. And on. And on.

 

[toastman]

I

Lipush is a hopeless fanatic. His idol is an Irgun commander, the terrorist group.

Lipush is a female.

And this coming from the scumbag who said he HOPES settlers get killed.

That doesn't sound like you at all Monte.

Toasty must be confused. If you had said that there would be a quick enough way for Toast to make his point by quoting it.

I expect he is taking about when the Zionists were saying that all Israel Adults were either IDF or reservists and possibly militia, and as such were legitimate military targets for Hamas.

Not confused at all. I remember it clearly.

BTW, how much does Monti pay you to be his secretary ?

Ok. So link to it, or quote it.

It happened months ago. How exactly am I supposed to find it ?

 

[toastman]

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

What specifically did she lie about

It's not the right thing to do.

Palestinian state is to be recognized once the Palestinian terror ceases, and only under negotiation.

Trying to force Israel to committ suicide won't help matters.

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

Instead of spewing your usual 'Zionist Lies', why don't you tell us what specifically she lied about.

Would it be of great interest to you?

The thing is, there are many Zionist lies. The best one is "God gave them Zion which is why they moved in and dispossessed the Palestinians." This is most ironic for the secular Jews who don't believe in God, but do believe he gave them the land.
Another is "A land without people for a people without land."
Another is "We don't do Apartheid."
Another is "We cannot talk to terrorists," When Israelis are the most successful terrorists to date.
Another is "The IDF don't use Human Shields."

They do go on. And on. And on.

Nice deflection. But you claimed Lipush was lying in her pot and I asked you to show me specifically what SHE was lying about.
You have SERIOUS reading comprehension issues.

 

[toastman]

That's not what I asked you moron. Try again

I'm most of the way there, she has two bastard sons.

No, you didn't come close. I brought up Palestinian mothers who express their pride and joy over the fact that their child has become a martyr and killed innocent Israelis. It's a Muslim thing. The ***** probably brainwashed her son to believe that killing Israelis makes Allah happy. And he taught his kids the same.
IT's a vicious cycle.

Why are her sons bastards?

She is so, by her logic, the sons must be as well.
You see, she blames the whole family for things she disagrees with, so her sons are now legitimate targets.

But you criticized her logic and now you are using it. Very hypocritical.
Now why don't you translate you sig in English for the non - Hebrew speakers here.

Not using it, just showing how stupid she is.
As for my sig, it says Israel is like sex with a pig; no reasonable people want it.

Is that not true?

Replace Israel with Islam, and truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Beelzebub]

"A theocracy is a form of government where God or some other supernatural being (deity) is considered the official ruler. "

That's interesting.
So Iran has been misidentified as a theocracy. The Supreme leader there being clearly identified as Ali Khanenei.
Though in common parlance Iran is identified as a theocracy. In the same was as Israel is.

Is common parlance wrong? Or has the dictionary definition focused on a too academic appreciation of the term, missing out on how it is widely used and understood?

 

[toastman]

"A theocracy is a form of government where God or some other supernatural being (deity) is considered the official ruler. "

That's interesting.
So Iran has been misidentified as a theocracy. The Supreme leader there being clearly identified as Ali Khanenei.
Though in common parlance Iran is identified as a theocracy. In the same was as Israel is.

Is common parlance wrong? Or has the dictionary definition focused on a too academic appreciation of the term, missing out on how it is widely used and understood?

According to wikipedia, today's theocracies are Iran, Vatican City (obvious) and countries that abide by Sharia law.

 

[Beelzebub]

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

What specifically did she lie about

Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood.
Israel holds it will not talk with those who do not recognise it as a state with a 'right to exist'. Then Palestinians must have the same courtesy. It is not a point for negotiation.

In any case the only way to save Israel from itself is to have a Palestinian state. Without one, Israel must be forever (or until its collapse) an Apartheid state, or would be dissolved into the solution of one state with an Arab majority.

"Recognition of Palestinian statehood must be as optional as recognition of Israeli statehood."

Fine. Then the other way around should go to. "Any attempts on erasing the "Palestinian" statehood should be euqally ok with declaring "Palestine" is a terror state with no right to exist."

Is that equation well-suiting?

As both would be madness, yes - equally (un) acceptable.

There is no "apartheid". Those who say it don't realize what it is. Apartheid is it when a normal state denies basic rights from a group of its own citizens based on nothing but race.

Palestinians are- a) not Israelis citizens and b) not discriminated based on race, but based on security reasons.

Those who live in Israel with blue ID suffer no lack of basic rights.

So any "apartheid" claiming is stupid and incorrect

Yes dear. Just keep telling yourself that like you convince yourself of all the other Zionist lies. No one believes you anymore.

Instead of spewing your usual 'Zionist Lies', why don't you tell us what specifically she lied about.

Would it be of great interest to you?

The thing is, there are many Zionist lies. The best one is "God gave them Zion which is why they moved in and dispossessed the Palestinians." This is most ironic for the secular Jews who don't believe in God, but do believe he gave them the land.
Another is "A land without people for a people without land."
Another is "We don't do Apartheid."
Another is "We cannot talk to terrorists," When Israelis are the most successful terrorists to date.
Another is "The IDF don't use Human Shields."

They do go on. And on. And on.

Nice deflection. But you claimed Lipush was lying in her pot and I asked you to show me specifically what SHE was lying about.
You have SERIOUS reading comprehension issues.

Why is it that you always call someone answering your question a "deflection"? Do you think it makes you look smart? Or is it a term you heard, and feel you can repeat it often to avoid saying "Thank you for answering. You have made me look embarrassingly stupid, Again." ? I think that is what we must understand you to mean.

I didn't claim "Lipush was lying in her pot" (sic)
I suggest you re-read what was said. You have English as a second language, perhaps, Toasty?

 

[Beelzebub]

"A theocracy is a form of government where God or some other supernatural being (deity) is considered the official ruler. "

That's interesting.
So Iran has been misidentified as a theocracy. The Supreme leader there being clearly identified as Ali Khanenei.
Though in common parlance Iran is identified as a theocracy. In the same was as Israel is.

Is common parlance wrong? Or has the dictionary definition focused on a too academic appreciation of the term, missing out on how it is widely used and understood?

According to wikipedia, today's theocracies are Iran, Vatican City (obvious) and countries that abide by Sharia law.

Cool. You have made my point.
MONTE: Toasty has made it clear that his definition of 'Theocracy" is not what is understood or used generally, so you can continue to use the term as you do, with his blessing.