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British healthcare....only a socialist could think it works....

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Here we have the latest report on how badly the British health service sucks at taking care of people...

Gov Report: NHS Running on Soviet Style Model; Patients Expected to Put Up and Shut Up

In the case of the worst examples, some 69 per cent of available space has been turned over to “non-clinical” purposes; some of which has simply been left empty, others given over to administration purposes. That meant that wards, operating theatres, clinics and waiting rooms were having to be squeezed in to the remaining 31 percent.
 

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Actually it worked just fine until the Tories started stealing the funding.
 

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Breitbart? :lol:

Thatcher did not mess with NHS.
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare
 

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Here we have the latest report on how badly the British health service sucks at taking care of people...

Gov Report: NHS Running on Soviet Style Model; Patients Expected to Put Up and Shut Up

In the case of the worst examples, some 69 per cent of available space has been turned over to “non-clinical” purposes; some of which has simply been left empty, others given over to administration purposes. That meant that wards, operating theatres, clinics and waiting rooms were having to be squeezed in to the remaining 31 percent.
Really? Yet their longevity and infant mortality is better than ours. In fact, they rank better in overall health care that we do.

 
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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
 
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Here we have the latest report on how badly the British health service sucks at taking care of people...

Gov Report: NHS Running on Soviet Style Model; Patients Expected to Put Up and Shut Up

In the case of the worst examples, some 69 per cent of available space has been turned over to “non-clinical” purposes; some of which has simply been left empty, others given over to administration purposes. That meant that wards, operating theatres, clinics and waiting rooms were having to be squeezed in to the remaining 31 percent.
Really? Yet their longevity and infant mortality is better than ours. In fact, they rank better in overall health care that we do.



Wrong...they measure infant mortality differently than we do....and their longevity stats are played with too.....
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare

Don't be reckless with your lifestyle, why do we have to pay for it?
 
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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare


You also don't have quality healthcare in universal healthcare or advanced procedures........and if you are too old...you are screwed.....

We need more competition in healthcare, not less. Competition makes things better....just look at any other product that faces competition and you have a better product...healthcare is no different.
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare

Don't be reckless with your lifestyle, why do we have to pay for it?
What the fuck are you babbling about?
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare


You also don't have quality healthcare in universal healthcare or advanced procedures........and if you are too old...you are screwed.....

We need more competition in healthcare, not less. Competition makes things better....just look at any other product that faces competition and you have a better product...healthcare is no different.
Competition is not keeping down prices

Our system, by its very nature is very inefficient

Insurance companies add nothing for our healthcare system, they are nothing but a middleman between patients and their doctors, yet we allow them to make our healthcare decisions for us
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare

Yeah? I met a dude from England when I was in Jamaica.
He had a cast on a still broken ankle that would have to be re broken at a later date because they couldnt fit him in the schedule.
The guy said in total it would be six months before they would get to him.

And of course both my Aunt and my Cousin worked in the Canadian healthcare system and they both say it sucks.

Careful what you wish for.
 

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Really? Yet their longevity and infant mortality is better than ours. In fact, they rank better in overall health care that we do.


It's really funny that after 16 years you nutters still refer to that 37th in the world nonsense from the 2000 WHO report which has been debunked 15,000 times since.

Oh, and by the way, our infant mortality rate and longevity has pretty much nothing to do with our health care system. As a matter of fact, your odds of surviving a major illness are higher here than in Britain and that same WHO report ranked the U.S. as number 1 in the world when it comes to quality of health care.

Carry on..
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare

Funny,I had cancer,hip replacement and type two diabetes diagnosed within an 8 month time span and my experience with BCBS was absolutely fantastic. And not a single problem with billing or out of pocket expenditures.
 
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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare


You also don't have quality healthcare in universal healthcare or advanced procedures........and if you are too old...you are screwed.....

We need more competition in healthcare, not less. Competition makes things better....just look at any other product that faces competition and you have a better product...healthcare is no different.
Competition is not keeping down prices

Our system, by its very nature is very inefficient

Insurance companies add nothing for our healthcare system, they are nothing but a middleman between patients and their doctors, yet we allow them to make our healthcare decisions for us


We don't have competition.....we had state monopolies on the insurance companies so they didn't have to compete across state lines...

Why is it that competition everywhere else lowers prices and increases quality but you guys say it won't help healthcare......? Look at your Iphone....look at your car....

And you are right....we should be paying our own bills...that will help lower the cost too.....
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare

Yeah? I met a dude from England when I was in Jamaica.
He had a cast on a still broken ankle that would have to be re broken at a later date because they couldnt fit him in the schedule.
The guy said in total it would be six months before they would get to him.

And of course both my Aunt and my Cousin worked in the Canadian healthcare system and they both say it sucks.

Careful what you wish for.
I call total bullshit on that one

It is only non-emergency procedures that have waiting lists
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare


Yeah....he just paid his entire life at confiscatory tax rates and then...how old was he? We'll see how he likes their healthcare as time goes on and it falls apart....
It all comes down to ....pay me now or pay me later

Our system pounds the shit out of you if you have a major health problem. Constantly negotiating between doctors and health insurance companies to try to figure out what you actually owe. A major part of a doctors overhead is staff involved in billing and negotiating with insurance companies

You don't have that with universal healthcare


You also don't have quality healthcare in universal healthcare or advanced procedures........and if you are too old...you are screwed.....

We need more competition in healthcare, not less. Competition makes things better....just look at any other product that faces competition and you have a better product...healthcare is no different.
Competition is not keeping down prices

Our system, by its very nature is very inefficient

Insurance companies add nothing for our healthcare system, they are nothing but a middleman between patients and their doctors, yet we allow them to make our healthcare decisions for us


We don't have competition.....we had state monopolies on the insurance companies so they didn't have to compete across state lines...

Why is it that competition everywhere else lowers prices and increases quality but you guys say it won't help healthcare......? Look at your Iphone....look at your car....

And you are right....we should be paying our own bills...that will help lower the cost too.....
Why doesn't competition help healthcare?

Because prices for drugs and medical procedures are not allowed to be advertised. If I need a hip replacement, I am not allowed to look on the Internet to see who has the best price
 

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A few years back I was walking the Gettysburgh Battlefield. I met a guy from England who was touring America. We got around to talking healthcare and I told him how my wife had recently had heart surgery and I was dealing with three quarters of an inch of hospital bills that I had to resolve
He told me that he had heart surgery the year before and never even got a bill

Boy, did I ever envy British healthcare

Yeah? I met a dude from England when I was in Jamaica.
He had a cast on a still broken ankle that would have to be re broken at a later date because they couldnt fit him in the schedule.
The guy said in total it would be six months before they would get to him.

And of course both my Aunt and my Cousin worked in the Canadian healthcare system and they both say it sucks.

Careful what you wish for.
I call total bullshit on that one

It is only non-emergency procedures that have waiting lists

I call bullshit on your story.....
See how that works?
 

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Here we have the latest report on how badly the British health service sucks at taking care of people...

Gov Report: NHS Running on Soviet Style Model; Patients Expected to Put Up and Shut Up

In the case of the worst examples, some 69 per cent of available space has been turned over to “non-clinical” purposes; some of which has simply been left empty, others given over to administration purposes. That meant that wards, operating theatres, clinics and waiting rooms were having to be squeezed in to the remaining 31 percent.
Really? Yet their longevity and infant mortality is better than ours. In fact, they rank better in overall health care that we do.

for about the 18th time rocks longevity has more to do with lifestyle than your healthcare......
 

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