Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[QuickHitCurepon]

She sat there parked for over three minutes obstructing traffic

Now she wasn't only a criminal for obstructing ICE, she was a criminal for obstructing the general public as well.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

She wasnt stuck it was a one-way road.

So what?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

She could have been funneling them to an attack point its what they do in the Middle East. Its why they got out and engaged her.

Paranoia.

 

[dblack]

Now she wasn't only a criminal for obstructing ICE, she was a criminal for obstructing the general public as well.

Yep. And the punishment for that, in the New Trump Order, is summary execution. What a country!

 

[Seymour Flops]

A. I’m pretty sure it was her neighborhood. Not sure why that is a big issue to you but I’d appreciate you showing us how you know this.

You made the claim that she was at home minding her own business when she heard ICE in her neighborhood.

You are welcome to prove that or not, just as you see fit.

You should be proud that she was looking for ICE to obstruct them, since you believe that is the right thing to do.

B.Actually “harassment “ is not illegal. Obstruction is. The fact that you deliberately used the word harassment indicates that you don’t think her actions rise to the level of obstruction

No.

Parking one's vehicle across lanes of traffic to obstruct federal law enforcement is clearly obstruction - duh. Honking horns, screaming, acting like a spoiled and angry child is more along the lines of disurbing the peace or disorderly conduct. I used the word harrasment becuase that was clearly the purpose of the childishness.

C. Was her car blocking ICE operations? My understanding was that she was blocking the road to rose awareness of what ICE was doing in front of her. She was annoying but not obstructing

It is illegal to park your car across lines of traffic, no matter what the motivation.

D. ICE not only shouldn’t have to move cars… they aren’t legally allowed to unless those cars are obstructing

They didn't tow her car. They asked her to step out of her car. She responded by hitting one of the officers with her car, becuase her wife yelled "Drive baby drive."

More than 7K posts on this thread, and you still don't see how foolish you look defending that.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yep. And the punishment for that, in the New Trump Order, is summary execution. What a country!

Was Lt Byrd shooting the woman trying to wiggle through a window a summary execution?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Eleven cars passed her. She got stuck and was waiting for them all to pass. It would take 3 minutes for 11 cars to pass.

Id like to see the eleven cars prevent her from leaving but know you wont support it.

at about 0:50 of the video below she had every opportunity to leave. A car had even stopped for her.

 

[dblack]

Was Lt Byrd shooting the woman trying to wiggle through a window a summary execution?

Didn't I tell you to go **** yourself? Let's just stick with that. I'm done with you fascist motherfuckers.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Paranoia.

Basic Movement Doctrine 101 (LE or military)

Sound movement protocol in a threat environment.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Id like to see the eleven cars prevent her from leaving but know you wont support it.

at about 0:50 of the video below she had every opportunity to leave. A car had even stopped for her.

It wasn't a very busy street. She had more patience than the other driver. Also, another very common thing where people wait a good amount of time for someone to pass.

 

[OODA_Loop]

It wasn't a very busy street. She had more patience than the other driver. Also, another very common thing where people wait a good amount of time for someone to pass.

But that is not what any video shows, I just posted video and gave you a time mark which contradicts your assertion.

Back up your claim with evidence.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

But that is not what any video shows, I just posted video and gave you a time mark which contradicts your assertion.

Back up your claim with evidence.

What are you talking about? There is nothing in that video that shows cars passing or waiting for Good. Just reporters and video of the shooting.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yep. And the punishment for that, in the New Trump Order, is summary execution. What a country!

Hit an officer with your car and you get the Darwin Award.

 

[OODA_Loop]

But that is not what any video shows, I just posted video and gave you a time mark which contradicts your assertion.

What are you talking about? There is nothing in that video that shows cars passing or waiting for Good. Just reporters and video of the shooting.

Wrong link attached to my previous post. My bad.



Still at 0:46. Car stopped she was free to leave. Earlier than that in the video a black JEEP backs up away the wrong way down a one way street to get away. She had very ample time to leave completely unimpeded.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Wrong link attached to my previous post. My bad.



Still at 0:46. Car stopped she was free to leave. Earlier than that in the video a black JEEP backs up away the wrong way down a one way street to get away. She had very ample time to leave completely unimpeded.

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The other car waited for 14 seconds. Good had more patience than that which is normal, especially since she was allowing several cars to pass. And that is @ 2:46 not @ :46

Also, an officer was walking near the front of her car during the last part of the 14 seconds.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The other car waited for 14 seconds.

Thanks that is what I am saying. She had ample time to leave if she wanted to. Cars were stopped waiting for her to do so.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Thanks that is what I am saying. She had ample time to leave if she wanted to. Cars were stopped waiting for her to do so.

If a car is waiting for me while I am trying to cross the street, I will usually make sure to wait longer than they will. I don't like crossing a street when I can be distracted by someone waiting for me. A lot of people do this. 14 seconds is nothing.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Also, an officer was walking near the front of her car during the last part of the 14 seconds.

The camera pans away during most of the 14 seconds. We don't know if there were other pedestrians in her way during that time.

 

[OODA_Loop]

If a car is waiting for me while I am trying to cross the street, I will usually make sure to wait longer than they will. I don't like crossing a street when I can be distracted by someone waiting for me. A lot of people do this. 14 seconds is nothing.

14 seconds is ample time to move especially if your intent is to leave the area because of ICE (and we taking it on your word it was 14 seconds).

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

14 seconds is ample time to move especially if your intent is to leave the area because of ICE (and we taking it on your word it was 14 seconds).

Time it for yourself. But we can't see if there are other people in her way.