Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[buttercup]

Well, as long as YOU think you are. That's all that matters, right?

Huh? I asked you what I said that was false, when I said the new neutral title is factually correct. You keep bringing up other stuff, but that's not what I'm asking about.

 

[Mac-7]

So you manufactured a rationalization to negate your own “admission”

I put the ultimate blame on the dead lesbian where it belongs

Pedestrians who are run over due to recklessness are just as dead as those who were targeted

 

[j-mac]

Huh? I asked you what I said that was false, when I said the new neutral title is factually correct. You keep bringing up other stuff, but that's not what I'm asking about.

This is now the third title change without explanation...But, if that's not what you're asking about just what the **** are you asking about? Try not being cryptic, and just say it...

 

[krichton]

If you'd like to take that stance, I understand, and there is lots of "noise" surrounding this...But, here's the facts that you are missing,

1. It's up to the agent in question whether or not he felt he, or someone else was in danger by Good's reckless actions.

2. While he may not have been completely run over, the reports are that he went to the hospital with injury to his hip...So, that tells me that either the car, or the mirror made contact with him...In fact you can hear it on his video....

3. Lastly, she was being ordered out of the car. At least 3X that I heard...When you decide that you can ignore legal orders, you put your life in danger...Simple.

1. Not according to DOJ or DHS policy and not according to the Supreme Court.

2. Link? I believe he may have made contact with the car, but not the other way around. Either way, the intent was not to run him over but to flee, and federal policy forbids the use of deadly force in that situation.

3. Right, and therein lies a huge problem with law enforcement in this country. In no civilized society should we ever accept that murder is possible simply because you refused to get out of your car for partially blocking a road.

 

[j-mac]

1. Not according to DOJ or DHS policy and not according to the Supreme Court.

2. Link? I believe he may have made contact with the car, but not the other way around. Either way, the intent was not to run him over but to flee, and federal policy forbids the use of deadly force in that situation.

3. Right, and therein lies a huge problem with law enforcement in this country. In no civilized society should we ever accept that murder is possible simply because you refused to get out of your car for partially blocking a road.

Man, that is just plain sad on your part...

What is it with this generation, that doesn't believe that Law Enforcement has any authority these days?

These are some stupid people...

 

[buttercup]

This is now the third title change without explanation...But, if that's not what you're asking about just what the **** are you asking about? Try not being cryptic, and just say it...

I'm not being cryptic at all, lol! I stated very clearly that the new title is factually correct and neutral....then you seemed to disagree with that, hence my question to you, what did I say that was false?

If anyone was being cryptic it was you, but at least now you're being more clear on what your gripe is. You want an explanation for the title changes. Ok, I don't disagree with you, it would be nice to hear from the mods on that. But it's not that big of a deal to me either way.

 

[OODA_Loop]

1. Not according to DOJ or DHS policy and not according to the Supreme Court.

2. Link? I believe he may have made contact with the car, but not the other way around. Either way, the intent was not to run him over but to flee, and federal policy forbids the use of deadly force in that situation.

3. Right, and therein lies a huge problem with law enforcement in this country. In no civilized society should we ever accept that murder is possible simply because you refused to get out of your car for partially blocking a road.

Shooting a fleeing suspect who is running away from you and shooting someone who has just struck you with their car trying to flee are different.

 

[j-mac]

I'm not being cryptic at all, lol! I stated very clearly that that the new title is factually correct and neutral....then you seemed to disagree with that, hence my question to you, what did I say that was false?

If anyone was being cryptic it was you, but at least now you're being more clear on what your gripe is. You want an explanation for the title changes. Ok, I don't disagree with you, it would be nice to hear from the mods on that. But it's not that big of a deal to me either way.

Why do you suppose that the Mods that changed the title multiple times now are too cowardly to give the members an explanation?

Hell dude, I had a thread downstairs trying to get them to respond, and they deleted the thread...

I never want to hear "fascist" anything from douchbag mods in here ever again. Or their lackey's.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This from DHS
Like I said, training is lacking

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Shooting a fleeing suspect who is running away from you and shooting someone who has just struck you with their car trying to flee are different.

True, but they're also not allowed to block the vehicle putting himself in harm's way the way he did.

 

[OODA_Loop]

True, but they're also not allowed to block the vehicle putting himself in harm's way the way he did.

The video purported to be from his camera shows him moving laterally in front of the car headed towards the driver's side door where his partner was trying apprehend her.......not standing as if to block.

 

[marvin martian]

Were you saying this when Jan 6ers were attacking the capitol building?

With 5,000 pound SUVs?

 

[Rogue AI]

Were you saying this when Jan 6ers were attacking the capitol building?

I had little enough to say about that January thing. Look elsewhere if that's your deal.

 

[krichton]

Man, that is just plain sad on your part...

What is it with this generation, that doesn't believe that Law Enforcement has any authority these days?

These are some stupid people...

Law enforcement has oodles and oodles of authority, but it sounds like you wish we had a more paramilitary style police force. Maybe you'd prefer living somewhere like Russia instead.

Back in the old days you could shoot and kill someone who was running away from you. It didn't matter the reason. For all we know some ppl may very well have taken jobs as police officers so they can legally kill people in these types of situations. I'm sure in some hell hole backwater country they probably still do this. Luckily 40 years ago, the Supreme Court heard the case of 15 year old boy who was shot and killed in this manner and decided use of deadly force would change in this country forever.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Law enforcement has oodles and oodles of authority, but it sounds like you wish we had a more paramilitary style police force. Maybe you'd prefer living somewhere like Russia instead.

Back in the old days you could shoot and kill someone who was running away from you. It didn't matter the reason. For all we know some ppl may very well have taken jobs as police officers so they can legally kill people in these types of situations. I'm sure in some hell hole backwater country they probably still do this. Luckily 40 years ago, the Supreme Court heard the case of 15 year old boy who was shot and killed in this manner and decided use of deadly force would change in this country forever.

What do the courts say about striking a law enforcement officer with your vehicle?

 

[marvin martian]

This is now the third title change without explanation...But, if that's not what you're asking about just what the **** are you asking about? Try not being cryptic, and just say it...

It's ******* pathetic.

The title is still bullshit.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The left's narrative has completely collapsed

 

[OODA_Loop]

It's ******* pathetic.

The title is still bullshit.

Title should be:

Accelerating woman shot by ICE Agents

 

[eagle1462010]

Title should be:

Accelerating woman shot by ICE Agents

Should be.

Darwin claims another idiot.

 

[XponentialChaos]

This is now the third title change without explanation...But, if that's not what you're asking about just what the **** are you asking about? Try not being cryptic, and just say it...

The title change reflects a neutral position on the intent.

The first one indicated that Good was trying to hit the officer. The next one indicated that Good was trying to avoid the officer. This new one removes the intent, which we don’t know, and simply states what factually happened.

What part about this is unclear?