BREAKING: U.S. Officials Have Declassified List Of Obama Officials Who Were Involved In ‘Unmasking’ General Flynn

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

I'm at a total loss for she can HONESTLY SAY I brought Trump into this and she never did when her own time is a Trump centric time line.

At that point I simply give up because I can find no good way to have an honest conversation in such a manner.

 

[Coyote]

iceberg
I owe you an apology. I went and walked the dogs, and thought about it. I couldn’t understand why I kept yelling 1986 and you kept yellingTrump And we seemed to be seeing completely different things.

Well mea culpa I should have READ my OWN LINK more carefully. It only showed a time line of actions relative to Trump. I am completely wrong on this.

 

[Coyote]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

You are correct, that whole 'timeline' link is Trump centric. Aside from that the link lists only one thing in 1986 which is....guess what? Trump is invited to the Soviet Union. There is not one mention of US election interference.

Then in 1987, Trump and Ivana take a trip to Russia to scout for construction sites for Trump Tower.

Then in 1991, Coyote's link gives us a one line history of Soviet Union' dissolution. Not one word about US election interference.

Then in 1996, the article again becomes Trump centric with a report of Trump's travels to the now Russia.

I could go on but you, sir, are 100% correct. The article in Coyote's link has no information about Russia election interference prior to 2014 so, to say that Russian interference ramped up in order to get Trump elected is not rooted in any kind of real data, it's just Democrat propaganda.

all i am after is baseline data on russian hacking / interference.

i don't care about trump. i don't care about obama. i don't care about much of anything except establishing a history of their activity. THEN AND ONLY THEN can you say there has been an increase in the usual activity.

while her link was very details on TRUMP, it had nothing to do with overall history, other than being the part i was out to validate as being "more" by knowing what that meant.

such a simple concept got blown the fuck up to all this bullshit cause someone who thinks they don't have TDS does in fact, have it.

pretty frustrating to be told i didn't read something i obviously read and understood better than the person chiding me.

Pretty frustrating to have every argument refuted with TDS TDS TDS

Then stop acting like you are afflicted with it. The link you put up is nothing but an anti-Trump screed supposedly linking him to Russia in yet another poorly veiled attempt to try to prove Trump 'colluded' with Russians in order to get elected. Give it up already 3 years, and absolutely no proof.. Otherwise, I must conclude that you have that affliction.

You are nothing more than a Trump cultist, so pardon me if I don’t take your accusations of TDS seriously.

 

[iceberg]

iceberg
I owe you an apology. I went and walked the dogs, and thought about it. I couldn’t understand why I kept yelling 1986 and you kept yellingTrump And we seemed to be seeing completely different things.

Well mea culpa I should have READ my OWN LINK more carefully. It only showed a time line of actions relative to Trump. I am completely wrong on this.

Thank you so very much.

 

[Erinwltr]

ABC News first reported the news but initially said in the title that Grenell was in the process of trying to declassify the list of Obama officials.

A source with knowledge of the matter told The Daily Wire that the list has already been declassified and now it’s on Attorney General William Barr to release the list.

This is very, very nice news!

MAY 12TH, 2020

U.S. Officials Have Declassified List Of Obama Officials Who Were Involved In ‘Unmasking’ General Flynn | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Well done!
View attachment 335005

Dead news. Not true. Keep posting garbage.

 

[Leo123]

I voted for Trump and think he is doing a fine job for the most part. I guess that makes me a 'cultist' to your mind. Frankly, I don't agree with his letting Fauci act like a little Napoleon I am also not really happy about the stimulus money that never seems to materialize especially for those seeking that 10K loan program. I like the fact that the economy was doing great before Covid and I like the fact that he takes it to the leftists who call themselves 'journalists' but only parrot the DNC talking points. And yeah, he has a potty mouth but that doesn't bother me that much after 8 years of Obama anti White crap and deriding law enforcement as having racist tendencies. The leftist lamestream media is more of a cult than people like me who voted for Trump and overall approve of what he is doing.

 

[beagle9]

I voted for Trump and think he is doing a fine job for the most part. I guess that makes me a 'cultist' to your mind. Frankly, I don't agree with his letting Fauci act like a little Napoleon I am also not really happy about the stimulus money that never seems to materialize especially for those seeking that 10K loan program. I like the fact that the economy was doing great before Covid and I like the fact that he takes it to the leftists who call themselves 'journalists' but only parrot the DNC talking points. And yeah, he has a potty mouth but that doesn't bother me that much after 8 years of Obama anti White crap and deriding law enforcement as having racist tendencies. The leftist lamestream media is more of a cult than people like me who voted for Trump and overall approve of what he is doing.

Obama's biggest problem may have been his wife, his preacher, his associate's, his ideology, his leanings based upon his early demographics, his teachings, and his racism born out of living in heavy leftist run crap holes, and due to his early childhood with his tragic dysfunctional family situation involved.

He wasn't ready for prime time, but whoops there it was, he actually became president.

 

[Leo123]

I voted for Trump and think he is doing a fine job for the most part. I guess that makes me a 'cultist' to your mind. Frankly, I don't agree with his letting Fauci act like a little Napoleon I am also not really happy about the stimulus money that never seems to materialize especially for those seeking that 10K loan program. I like the fact that the economy was doing great before Covid and I like the fact that he takes it to the leftists who call themselves 'journalists' but only parrot the DNC talking points. And yeah, he has a potty mouth but that doesn't bother me that much after 8 years of Obama anti White crap and deriding law enforcement as having racist tendencies. The leftist lamestream media is more of a cult than people like me who voted for Trump and overall approve of what he is doing.

Obama's biggest problem may have been his wife, his preacher, his associate's, his ideology, his leanings based upon his early demographics, his teachings, and his racism born out of living in heavy leftist run crap holes, and due to his early childhood with his tragic dysfunctional family situation involved.

He wasn't ready for prime time, but whoops there it was, he actually became president.

Yeah Obama's resume....."community organizer"....

 

[beagle9]

I voted for Trump and think he is doing a fine job for the most part. I guess that makes me a 'cultist' to your mind. Frankly, I don't agree with his letting Fauci act like a little Napoleon I am also not really happy about the stimulus money that never seems to materialize especially for those seeking that 10K loan program. I like the fact that the economy was doing great before Covid and I like the fact that he takes it to the leftists who call themselves 'journalists' but only parrot the DNC talking points. And yeah, he has a potty mouth but that doesn't bother me that much after 8 years of Obama anti White crap and deriding law enforcement as having racist tendencies. The leftist lamestream media is more of a cult than people like me who voted for Trump and overall approve of what he is doing.

Obama's biggest problem may have been his wife, his preacher, his associate's, his ideology, his leanings based upon his early demographics, his teachings, and his racism born out of living in heavy leftist run crap holes, and due to his early childhood with his tragic dysfunctional family situation involved.

He wasn't ready for prime time, but whoops there it was, he actually became president.

Yeah Obama's resume....."community organizer"....

Yeah, and just one in a long list of them. We probably ain't seen nothing yet. Hopefully that AOC will be defeated soon, and the country doesn't go anywhere down that road in the future.

 

[colfax_m]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

 

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

 

[colfax_m]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

 

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

i'm waiting for more evidence to come into play on obama. only fair. but yes it is fair to ask that his actions are viewed in the same potential and light as trumps. since barr has said he does see "abuses" but not "illegal" and doesn't see obama or biden as going to jail, then fine. decision made. unfortunately we have a horrible habit of labeling someone who doesn't go all out against the other side as a traitor. so we take it further into stupidity because we're not personally satisfied emotionally.

i just see us doing a "oh you got away with...hold my beer" and we keep getting worse and worse all around on both sides pushing boundaries and seeing what we can get away with all in the name of getting even with the other side.

sooner or later that shit will stop. we can either stop it or we collapse under our own weight.

 

[colfax_m]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

i'm waiting for more evidence to come into play on obama. only fair. but yes it is fair to ask that his actions are viewed in the same potential and light as trumps. since barr has said he does see "abuses" but not "illegal" and doesn't see obama or biden as going to jail, then fine. decision made. unfortunately we have a horrible habit of labeling someone who doesn't go all out against the other side as a traitor. so we take it further into stupidity because we're not personally satisfied emotionally.

i just see us doing a "oh you got away with...hold my beer" and we keep getting worse and worse all around on both sides pushing boundaries and seeing what we can get away with all in the name of getting even with the other side.

sooner or later that shit will stop. we can either stop it or we collapse under our own weight.

Barr needs to keep his mouth shut about ongoing investigations. Making vague comments about “abuses” is allowing some people’s imagination to run wild. But it does please Trump, so...

I just find it very hypocritical that 6 months ago we were told they Trump has complete authority to investigate a political opponent. Yet the same people (not necessarily you) complain that Obama was doing something wrong by investigating Trump.

You know what’s the biggest difference here? Trump actually was the one pushing the investigation into Biden. Obama did nothing of the sort, despite people claiming to have proof of it.

 

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

i'm waiting for more evidence to come into play on obama. only fair. but yes it is fair to ask that his actions are viewed in the same potential and light as trumps. since barr has said he does see "abuses" but not "illegal" and doesn't see obama or biden as going to jail, then fine. decision made. unfortunately we have a horrible habit of labeling someone who doesn't go all out against the other side as a traitor. so we take it further into stupidity because we're not personally satisfied emotionally.

i just see us doing a "oh you got away with...hold my beer" and we keep getting worse and worse all around on both sides pushing boundaries and seeing what we can get away with all in the name of getting even with the other side.

sooner or later that shit will stop. we can either stop it or we collapse under our own weight.

Barr needs to keep his mouth shut about ongoing investigations. Making vague comments about “abuses” is allowing some people’s imagination to run wild. But it does please Trump, so...

I just find it very hypocritical that 6 months ago we were told they Trump has complete authority to investigate a political opponent. Yet the same people (not necessarily you) complain that Obama was doing something wrong by investigating Trump.

You know what’s the biggest difference here? Trump actually was the one pushing the investigation into Biden. Obama did nothing of the sort, despite people claiming to have proof of it.

i would agree he needs to wait til done but people simply don't do that anymore; not just barr.

i would say the advocates saying trump can review their actions is a reaction to the over-reaction of russia to the right. when nothing was found, we simply line up and return fire. like i keep saying, "hold my beer". both sides do it and the fans of both sides minimize their "bad" and maximize the other sides "bad". then their "minions" go off and defend until death and making standard conversation so difficult to do.

 

[Coyote]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

I think you walk a very very fine line there, and you need to consider some factors:

• there is no history of this president showing a concern or interest in corruption
• the foreign aid for this country was previously held back until it was determined they had met requirements showing that they were adequately addressing corruption (and, this was certified by Army intelligence prior to release).
• the president did not only ask the foreign leader to "find some dirt" - he asked him to just publicly announce he was opening an investigation.
• the person he was wanting to investigate was his personal political rival (huge line there imo)
• given the above point - the proper course of action would have been to have had the relevant government agencies look into it to see if there was any merit to the accusation.

 

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

I think you walk a very very fine line there, and you need to consider some factors:

• there is no history of this president showing a concern or interest in corruption
• the foreign aid for this country was previously held back until it was determined they had met requirements showing that they were adequately addressing corruption (and, this was certified by Army intelligence prior to release).
• the president did not only ask the foreign leader to "find some dirt" - he asked him to just publicly announce he was opening an investigation.
• the person he was wanting to investigate was his personal political rival (huge line there imo)
• given the above point - the proper course of action would have been to have had the relevant government agencies look into it to see if there was any merit to the accusation.

and i can list list out bullet after bullet as well in "return fire" - and we're off and running to defend these bullets.

the bottom line would still remain that both sides feel the other side is evil and will prove it by calling out actions the both sides take, but the other side did them for lesser reasons.

i'm far beyond ever thinking we will see a lot of jail time for anyone. those hoping for that are likely to stay angry over things they can't control and feel cheated, strengthing the "revenge factor" urge cause the other side "got away with something". this seems to let people think they can now ease up on following rules cause "they did' in their mind.

that "mindset" is far more the enemy of this country in my mind than trump, obama, or inventing a crisis we can all get mad about today. as long as we're willing to divide up and want "death" to the other side so easily, we are not staying strong enough to see us through as a country.

you can call out trumps actions and paint a pretty picture. many can do the same or obama. both sides feel THEY are right.

now what?

i have little to no interest in making sure one side seems right and the other wrong, i am far more interested in seeing how we can stop the madness and relearn to trust people we've conditioned ourselves to hate over the last 14 years.

 

[colfax_m]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

i'm waiting for more evidence to come into play on obama. only fair. but yes it is fair to ask that his actions are viewed in the same potential and light as trumps. since barr has said he does see "abuses" but not "illegal" and doesn't see obama or biden as going to jail, then fine. decision made. unfortunately we have a horrible habit of labeling someone who doesn't go all out against the other side as a traitor. so we take it further into stupidity because we're not personally satisfied emotionally.

i just see us doing a "oh you got away with...hold my beer" and we keep getting worse and worse all around on both sides pushing boundaries and seeing what we can get away with all in the name of getting even with the other side.

sooner or later that shit will stop. we can either stop it or we collapse under our own weight.

Barr needs to keep his mouth shut about ongoing investigations. Making vague comments about “abuses” is allowing some people’s imagination to run wild. But it does please Trump, so...

I just find it very hypocritical that 6 months ago we were told they Trump has complete authority to investigate a political opponent. Yet the same people (not necessarily you) complain that Obama was doing something wrong by investigating Trump.

You know what’s the biggest difference here? Trump actually was the one pushing the investigation into Biden. Obama did nothing of the sort, despite people claiming to have proof of it.

i would agree he needs to wait til done but people simply don't do that anymore; not just barr.

i would say the advocates saying trump can review their actions is a reaction to the over-reaction of russia to the right. when nothing was found, we simply line up and return fire. like i keep saying, "hold my beer". both sides do it and the fans of both sides minimize their "bad" and maximize the other sides "bad". then their "minions" go off and defend until death and making standard conversation so difficult to do.

Mueller did with Trump. Comey did with Trump. Everyone prosecuting Flynn, Stone, Manafort did it. That’s because they follow the rules. The rules say don’t talk about open investigations.

The rules don’t apply to Barr apparently, but everyone else has to follow them. So while Barr can badmouth his prosecutors and agents, the rules prevent them from fighting back.

“Returning fire” only works if you’re actually being fired on. Obamagate seems more like Gulf of Tonkin if you ask me.

 

[iceberg]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

Can we say the same about Obama without it being labeled “the biggest scandal in the history of the country”?

Or is there a double standard.

i'm waiting for more evidence to come into play on obama. only fair. but yes it is fair to ask that his actions are viewed in the same potential and light as trumps. since barr has said he does see "abuses" but not "illegal" and doesn't see obama or biden as going to jail, then fine. decision made. unfortunately we have a horrible habit of labeling someone who doesn't go all out against the other side as a traitor. so we take it further into stupidity because we're not personally satisfied emotionally.

i just see us doing a "oh you got away with...hold my beer" and we keep getting worse and worse all around on both sides pushing boundaries and seeing what we can get away with all in the name of getting even with the other side.

sooner or later that shit will stop. we can either stop it or we collapse under our own weight.

Barr needs to keep his mouth shut about ongoing investigations. Making vague comments about “abuses” is allowing some people’s imagination to run wild. But it does please Trump, so...

I just find it very hypocritical that 6 months ago we were told they Trump has complete authority to investigate a political opponent. Yet the same people (not necessarily you) complain that Obama was doing something wrong by investigating Trump.

You know what’s the biggest difference here? Trump actually was the one pushing the investigation into Biden. Obama did nothing of the sort, despite people claiming to have proof of it.

i would agree he needs to wait til done but people simply don't do that anymore; not just barr.

i would say the advocates saying trump can review their actions is a reaction to the over-reaction of russia to the right. when nothing was found, we simply line up and return fire. like i keep saying, "hold my beer". both sides do it and the fans of both sides minimize their "bad" and maximize the other sides "bad". then their "minions" go off and defend until death and making standard conversation so difficult to do.

Mueller did with Trump. Comey did with Trump. Everyone prosecuting Flynn, Stone, Manafort did it. That’s because they follow the rules. The rules say don’t talk about open investigations.

The rules don’t apply to Barr apparently, but everyone else has to follow them. So while Barr can badmouth his prosecutors and agents, the rules prevent them from fighting back.

“Returning fire” only works if you’re actually being fired on. Obamagate seems more like Gulf of Tonkin if you ask me.

given how many rules obama's camp DID NOT follow, this is a rather odd statement. just because they're not following the same "rules" doesn't mean one side is better than the other when both sides are playing this "hardball".

was it cool to spy on congress?
reporters?
continue to take FISA liberties?

not here to pick apart one side and try to defend the other, neither are where i would wish we could all one day be. both need an overhaul.

 

[colfax_m]

if you don't want to be called a king kamayamaya bitch, stop acting like one.

THE ENTIRE TIMELINE YOU GAVE IS FOR 2014 AND BEYOND AND DOES NOT FUCKING ADDRESS WHAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY TO SHOW THIS WAS AN "ESCALATION"

The Wiki article covers 1986 on. In addition, I posted another article, in post 232 from Politico.

and this link is still all about TRUMP and the elections. are you saying that trump was involved in RUSSIA interference in 1986?

i am asking point blank what RUSSIA did prior to 2014 to interfere in our elections. Not a timeline of TRUMP crap you're obsessed with. but as usual, you can't leave trump out of a single topic, can you?

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP - THIS IS ABOUT RUSSIAN HISTORY OF JACKING WITH OVERALL US ELECTIONS.

but...TRUMP is all you ever have.

done. have a day.

You obviously did not read it. It covers 1986 to 2016.

In fact - you aren't making much sense here and I don't know what exactly you want. I do not know if it is deliberate or what.

then in effect you are saying the history of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE in US politics began with TRUMP in 1986. your 1986 reference is ONLY IN RELATION TO 2016 interference PER THE HEADLINE OF YOUR OWN GOD DAMN ARTICLE.

Where in the hell are you pulling that from? I don't know what you are reading. The headline looks at events leading up to 2016, which marks a watershed moment in terms of interference. If you quit obsessing about Trump Trump Trump (and NOTE I have not mentioned him or made it about him - I merely provided the information you kept DEMANDING) then maybe you would SEE that.

Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

what you can never seem to do, comprehend nor understand is I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT TRUMP.

GOOD. Then SHOW that but not focusing on TRUMP.

my question of when russia started interfering into our elections doesn't not have a god damn thing to do with TRUMP yet your NON-TDS mind can't seem to fathom i am asking a question not related at all to TRUMP in this instance in order to get a historical perspective.

You are seriously deranged. Overactive Tump Defense System misfiring or something? What part of my link do you fail to understand? Regardless of where it ENDS, it provides a decent timeline of Russian activities PRIOR to 2016.

I ANSWERED your question - now MOVE ON if you can not refute the time line with better information.

just stop. you don't have TDS but you can't comprehend a world without you bitching at him.

all i want is examples of russian interference in our elections THROUGH ALL TIME, not just TRUMP!! TRUMP GOD DAMN IT TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT TRUMP!!! YEWARGH BUT I'M NOT SUFFERING TDS...but it's taking 2+ pages of bullshit to get you to realize i am not asking about interference in relation to TRUMP but OVERALL US HISTORY.

now who's trolling who again?

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I GAVE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND IT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON TRUMP!

i asked you for a complete history of russian interference into our elections going as far back as WWII.

the headline for the link you gave me is what again?
"Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986"

so you are only giving me russian interference as it related to the trump election.

at this point i honestly don't give a fuck anymore. you and i are so far apart on base reality of what simple things are that talking to you in a logical / linear fashion is impossible. i t-shoot technical problems quite often and think in a linear fashion. you tell me that an activity was escalated, then it means it's more than it was before.

i want to know what it was before said escalation so we have a base to show how much (if any) it actually was escalated.

your headline from the link is again:
Timeline_of_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections#1986

and i asked for ALL RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE, you keep giving me just as it relates to trump, or 2016, and act like this has a fuck-one thing to do with what i was searching for. at least colfax understands what i am asking. you don't. either you refuse to, don't want to, or simply can't comprehend a question that doesn't involve trump and frankly, i don't give a shit which it is. but your link had nothing to do with the entire history of russian interference in US elections OF WHICH has been my request this this bullshit hayride began.

have a day.

Earlier, before wiki, I linked to a Politico article that gave some historic background on Russian interference. This was the link: Russia’s Long and Mostly Unsuccessful History of Election Interference. Did you read that one?

If Politico doesn't suit you, here is another: Russian Meddling in the United States: The Historical Context of the Mueller Report

Oh Geez, another Trump centric screed. From your link..First sentence..

"Until the election of Donald Trump, no sitting president had ever requested a foreign government’s help to discredit a political rival."

The article does go on to prove Russian interference in past elections but the claim that the interference was 'unprecented' for Trump is just not there. Nice try though. I will say what I said before though, the only ones using Russian disinformation were the Democrats who used the fake Russian dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and then his Presidential transition team.

So before Trump, what president has requested a foreign government help to discredit a political rival?

if you only wish to see it as discrediting. however, since trump and many *do* buy into the other side being pure evil and always into something. if he felt biden was doing something wrong, would trump, or any president in this instance, be justified in asking someone to "look into it"?

I think you walk a very very fine line there, and you need to consider some factors:

• there is no history of this president showing a concern or interest in corruption
• the foreign aid for this country was previously held back until it was determined they had met requirements showing that they were adequately addressing corruption (and, this was certified by Army intelligence prior to release).
• the president did not only ask the foreign leader to "find some dirt" - he asked him to just publicly announce he was opening an investigation.
• the person he was wanting to investigate was his personal political rival (huge line there imo)
• given the above point - the proper course of action would have been to have had the relevant government agencies look into it to see if there was any merit to the accusation.

Don’t forget that the point person for Trump’s “investigation” in Ukraine was not a government official but a campaign surrogate.

It’s like if Obama put Podesta in charge of Crossfire Hurricane. Theyd have a stroke.