BREAKING: Supreme Court says US must aid in return of man deported by mistake

[theHawk]

Nope...

There is a court order in place for him not to be deported....

I don't think you get it... The DOJ have to make a case in front of a judge...

So? How can he prove he is a citizen when he isn’t?

A judge cannot stop immigration from deporting illegals.

 

[Care4all]

We're getting the definition of "encounter" mixed up with "let into the US". Under Biden "encounters" meant let into the US because of Biden's open border policy. Then add 1m flown in via the CBP app, and 2m "gotaways" and you get to about 12,000,000 illegals let into the US under Biden.

Here is what google said:
"Since President Biden took office in January 2021, there have been over 10 million encounters with migrants at the U.S. southern border, which includes both illegal entries and attempts to enter legally. However, this number does not account for individuals who may have crossed undetected."

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million...

www.factcheck.org

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-1-summary

https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-2-did-biden-cut-enforcement

 

[Care4all]

So? How can he prove he is a citizen when he isn’t?

A judge cannot stop immigration from deporting illegals.

He doesn't have to prove citizenship from what I understand. Trump has to show he is a criminal gang member of the specific gang Trump claims under the alien enemies act that he can deport, and the guy gets to defend himself of the accusations with whatever evidence he has, that he is not what the govt claims.....

The Judge then makes a determination.....I think?

 

[TimFitz]

It's at the discretion of Congress whether to impeach him. I don't see that happening with the current makeup of the House.

If, somehow, Democrats do succeed in forcing Trump to bring back this illegal alien who is a suspected terrorist gang member, the makeup of the Congress will even be more lopsidedly red after 2026.

No, I don’t either.

Congress is in the trail of the new facist state,

I sincerely doubt that the return of this guy will result in a red wave.

I think Trump’s constant race baiting has reached all the angry bigots it’s going to reach.

 

[kyzr]

CBP encounters are not the number of Illegal Aliens in the country as CBP encounters are turned around at the border.

Correct for "Remain in Mexico" under Trump. But Biden canceled MPP". You have to remember the caravans and thousands of migrants a day crossing the border and getting disbursed all over the US, EVERY DAY.

Stunning video shows massive group of migrants crossing Texas border

The videos show a line of migrants wading into the river — some carrying children and belongings on their shoulders and backs — before coming ashore at Eagle Pass.

nypost.com

And thank you for posting the worst case graph from an anti-immigration site that I supplied earlier which ALSO disproves that Biden let in 15-20 Illegal Aliens during his term.

My number is now about 13m that Biden let into the US.

It shows about 12 million at the end of Trumps term and 18.6 million now. The difference is 6.6 million - not the 15 to 20 million claimed. (Still to many IMHO, but that is a different discussion.) This is about Trump supporters lying and acting like there were no Illegals Aliens in the country during Trumps term. WW

Changed your bad numbers above to red font. Revising my number range to 7m - 13m Biden let in.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/590627-a-review-of-president-bidens-first-year-on-border/

On the very first day, the Biden administration effectively terminated the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), also known as the Remain in Mexico policy. The policy allowed for asylum seekers to wait in Mexico until the time came for them to appear at an immigration hearing. This program reduced the number of border apprehensions by 64% over a four-month span in 2019 and was a major component of the Trump administration’s efforts to combat illegal immigration. Earlier this year, I sent a letter to Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas questioning the administration’s rationale for suspending the MPP. While a court order required the Biden administration to reinstate the program, the administration continues to fight the use of this effective strategy through legal challenges.

 

[Edgetho]

He doesn't have to prove citizenship from what I understand. Trump has to show he is a criminal gang member of the specific gang Trump claims under the alien enemies act that he can deport, and the guy gets to defend himself of the accusations with whatever evidence he has, that he is not what the govt claims.....

The Judge then makes a determination.....I think?

I think he's a Legal resident because he married a Citizen.

In any case, he isn't coming back regardless of what SCOTUS thinks. Count on it

 

[Rambunctious]

You guys realize you are talking about two different people, right?

WW

Tell Lesh that... he responded to me... so he or she has the wrong guy....

 

[kyzr]

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million...

www.factcheck.org

Stunning video shows massive group of migrants crossing Texas border

The videos show a line of migrants wading into the river — some carrying children and belongings on their shoulders and backs — before coming ashore at Eagle Pass.

nypost.com

My numbers are 7m - 13 illegals were let into the Us by Biden's open borders.

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump gets a big win here... bye bye little Hamas supporter...

Columbia anti-Israel protester Mahmoud Khalil can be deported, judge rules

An immigration judge has ruled that Mahmoud Khalil can be deported from the U.S. due to his involvement in leading last year’s pro-Palestinian protests at Columbia University.

www.foxnews.com

 

[WEATHER53]

USA does not have to aid. We just can’t interfere . More made up words and ideas from lib loons

 

[WEATHER53]

Democracy does not convey to non citizens. Libs make that up also

 

[theHawk]

He doesn't have to prove citizenship from what I understand. Trump has to show he is a criminal gang member of the specific gang Trump claims under the alien enemies act that he can deport, and the guy gets to defend himself of the accusations with whatever evidence he has, that he is not what the govt claims.....

The Judge then makes a determination.....I think?

We can deport any illegal. They don’t need to be in a criminal gang.

 

[Lesh]

Agreed math is straightforward. We just disagree on the number of illegals in the US, especially the ones hiding in the shadows. My reference (below) says 18.6m now. Your reference said 13-15m.

Biden averaged 3,000,000 encounters per year, graph below.
Very few were "deported" , that's why we call it "open borders".
3m x 4 yrs = 12,000,000 plus the 1m from the CBP app plus the 2m "gotaways" = 15m new illegals into the US during Biden. 15 Biden + 10 Trump = 25m higher than the 19m my ref has. My range is 19m - 25m illegals in the US.

True. Look at the CBP encounters.
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No one knows "exactly" how many illegals we have here in the US, because they are "illegal".

How Many Illegal Aliens Are in the United States? 2025 Update | FAIRUS.org

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) now estimates that a record high 18.6 million illegal aliens are living in the United States. That figure represents an 11 percent increase since FAIR’s last estimate of 16.8 million in June 2023 and a 28.2 percent increase over the four...

www.fairus.org

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So you understand that the claim that Biden “let in” 15 million illegals is absurd

Thank you

 

[TimFitz]

He may NOT be alive which is why Trump & his goon squad are fighting tooth & nail in the courts to not be ordered to bring him back here.

The real criminals are Trump, Bondi & the rest of them who broke the law by deporting him in the first place.

That thought had occurred to me as well.

 

[Lesh]

That thought had occurred to me as well.

That would be awful and it would make the Trump Admin murderers

 

[Clyde 154]

They dropped the weapons charges..... nothing else.

What's new? Another Half/Truth from the media attempting to direct the narrative by omitting critical elements to the actual facts in evidence. A half truth is a whole lie. How think do these idiots stupid we are?

 

[Lesh]

They dropped the weapons charges..... nothing else.

What? Who are you talking about?

 

[kyzr]

So you understand that the claim that Biden “let in” 15 million illegals is absurd. Thank you

7m to 13m is still an invasion. Please don't forget that in the 7m was 166,000 Chinese, 125,000 Russians, 500,000 or so convicted criminals, and hundreds of terrorists including ISIS.
Those bad guys are Biden's and democrat's responsibility until ICE can get them deported.
You do know what a "5th column" is?

Fifth column - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Seymour Flops]

He doesn't have to prove citizenship from what I understand. Trump has to show he is a criminal gang member of the specific gang Trump claims under the alien enemies act that he can deport, and the guy gets to defend himself of the accusations with whatever evidence he has, that he is not what the govt claims.....

The Judge then makes a determination.....I think?

You may well be right about that. Or the whole idea of using the Enemy Aliens act on suspected foreign gang members may be tossed out by the courts, no matter how much evidence there is that they are really gang members. That is the Democrats' legal strategy.

But what good will that do your side? Meaning the side that wants all illegal aliens to stay until they start voting and maybe become citizens along the way.

Best scenario for your side, the judges manage to force Trump to simply deport illegals the old fashioned way - for being illegal (duh!). Then - once again - the Democrats allow Trump the moral high ground that wants violent criminals out of the country, while the Democrats are seen as the Party of Shysters constantly looking for a way to trip up Trump to the detriment of the American people.

I just wonder how lopsided 2026 will have to be for the Democrats to wise up.

 

[Flopper]

I don't care where he is from... he needs to be deported... you don't rise to the top of MS13 unless you have killed people... what about that do you not get?...

He claimed he was not a member of any gang. Since there was no hearing in an immigration court. All we have is accusations.