BREAKING! Obama not a citizen! Inaguration CANCELED!

[indago]

Truthmatters wrote: "Biden was elected to take over for Obama if he could not serve. Its simple"

Seriously? you would inflict this horror and pestilence upon us? Why dost thou hate us so?

Maybe it's the END TIMES after all...

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse


WAR — FAMINE — PESTILENCE — DEATH


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[RodISHI]

Truthmatters wrote: "Biden was elected to take over for Obama if he could not serve. Its simple"




Maybe it's the END TIMES after all...

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse


WAR — FAMINE — PESTILENCE — DEATH


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It has been happenng for thousands of years.

 

[editec]

Sadly, we are a litigated society in the US. Everything that people CAN take to court they do. Hate to pull out this old card but "I ordered hot coffee and it burned my lap when I was driving with it between my legs."

I hate to burst that bubble, but the woman who sued for scalding coffee was so badly burned that she lost a significant portion of her cliterous and it took surgery to repair the damages.

You would NOT have sued under those circumstances?

I correct the record merely because that myth of frivality keeps being used to make a case that civil suits are so often frivalous.

Her's CLEARLY was not.

 

[editec]

Given the evidence that Obama has that he is a citizen, and given that that evidence is not enough to satisfy some people, it is obvious to me that no natural born citizen of the USA would have enough evidence to satisfy some people.

These people are nothing but cranks.

 

[RodISHI]

I hate to burst that bubble, but the woman who sued for scalding coffee was so badly burned that she lost a significant portion of her cliterous and it took surgery to repair the damages.

You would NOT have sued under those circumstances?

I correct the record merely because that myth of frivality keeps being used to make a case that civil suits are so often frivalous.

Her's CLEARLY was not.

Recovering damages in court is not as easy as many seem to think it is.

Insurance does not always cover what they are supposed to. Katrina is the shining example of the corruption in the insurance industry. That coverage people paid for yet recieved nothing when it came time for the insurance companies to pay up.

Many lawyers were paid off long before the average working class stiff came along and vistims are merely victimized even further.

 

[editec]

Recovering damages in court is not as easy as many seem to think it is.

Insurance does not always cover what they are supposed to. Katrina is the shining example of the corruption in the insurance industry. That coverage people paid for yet recieved nothing when it came time for the insurance companies to pay up.

Many lawyers were paid off long before the average working class stiff came along and vistims are merely victimized even further.

Let me go just a tad further in illuminating that "Coffee lawsuit".

That woman sued for damages.

The enormous amount of money she was granted (but to my knowledge still hasn't gotten) was awarded to her by the courts.

McDs had been repeatedly warmed not to server superheated coffee. That McD's had burned other patrons, and been sued for it in the past, and this woman's injuries were terrible, not minor but terrible.

That wasn't hot coffee that was superheated coffee which caused third degree burns.

You folks who are buying into the theory that all lawsuits are frivalous and therefore such suits should be outlawed are fucking tools.

 

[del]

he hasnt been sworn in yet
can you point to the article in the constitution where it actually covers this kind of incident?

interesting question. if he was unqualified to serve, then wouldn't the runner up for the election, mccain, be the next choice?

 

[Ravi]

interesting question. if he was unqualified to serve, then wouldn't the runner up for the election, mccain, be the next choice?

Nah, the electoral votes would go to Hillary. You're screwed either way.

 

[del]

Nah, the electoral votes would go to Hillary. You're screwed either way.

why am i screwed? i didn't vote for either of them.

it just makes sense to me that if a candidate ran under false pretenses then the person who came in second would then win.

 

[xsited1]

What I would like to know is why if this is all just just hysterical conspiracy theories, why doesn't Barack Obama allow access to his vault certificate of live birth? If there is nothing for him to worry about what is he worried about? Why has he and the DNC spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal fees to stop over a dozen law suits attempting to access his vault certificate of live birth? For twenty bucks he could have put this problem to bed months ago. Why didn't he do it? He promised a new transparency. What is he hiding?
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There was an African studies-type website that claimed they had news about Obama's birth certificate that really upset Michelle Obama. Michelle said something to the effect that "I can't believe you want to post this story. It doesn't make Barack less of an American." They never posted the story and all references to the story have been removed.

Yes, there is something fishy going on here, but the average citizen can never know the truth.

 

[Ravi]

why am i screwed? i didn't vote for either of them.

it just makes sense to me that if a candidate ran under false pretenses then the person who came in second would then win.

I've really no idea how this would play out. IMO, the majority voted for a democrat so the electoral college would just select another democrat. I suspect this is how the idiot that is bringing these suits is thinking since he's a Hillary supporter.

 

[Againsheila]

Here's the point; there is no valid lawsuit. In order to have a valid lawsuit there needs to be some evidence that Obama was not born in the US. There is none. Show us a birth certificate from Kenya, and maybe someone will listen.

I'm not positive Obama was born in the US; I do question it. But the fact remains that even if it could be proven his birth certificate from Hawaii was invalid, you'd still have to prove he wasn't born in the US, and right now there is no evidence of that, only conjecture, and therefore, there is no valid cause to even hear the case.

When you apply for a job with our government, you must show a valid birth certificate, they don't have to prove there isn't one. Since he is elected president of ALL the people, then ALL the people have the right to know if he's eligible for the job.

Going to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport at the age of 20 is a clear indication that he has accepted Indonesian citizenship after the age of majority for the USA. Indonesia doesn't accept duel citizenship, this means he gave up his American citizenship at that time.

Sadly, the whole thing doesn't matter, just as the Clinton worshipers defended Clinton at all costs and the Bush worshipers have defended Bush at all costs, Obama's worshipers will do the same.

I'm am so sick of our corrupt political system.

 

[Gord]

Given the evidence that Obama has that he is a citizen, and given that that evidence is not enough to satisfy some people, it is obvious to me that no natural born citizen of the USA would have enough evidence to satisfy some people.

These people are nothing but cranks.

If I am just a "crank" and you are the rational one why don't you give me some rational explanations to my questions?

What I would like to know is if this is all just just hysterical conspiracy theories, why doesn't Barack Obama allow access to his vault certificate of live birth? If there is nothing for him to worry about what is he worried about? Why has he and the DNC spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal fees to stop over a dozen law suits attempting to access his vault certificate of live birth? For twenty bucks he could have put this problem to bed months ago. Why didn't he do it? He promised a new transparency. What is he hiding?

And he also needs to answer how he got into Pakistan at a time when it was prohibited to do so on an American passport? What passport did he use? Was it Indonesian, Kenyan, what? Did he reinstate his American citizenship as required when he came back to live in America (if he ever had a legitimate American citizenship)?

No Republican would be allowed to get away with these sorts questions hanging over him. The Democrats would demand full discosure every day and the media would turn over every rock. But with the Obamasiah he is allowed to keep virtually his whole life a secret. This is not good for an open republican democracy.

 

[indago]

Since he is elected president of ALL the people, then ALL the people have the right to know if he's eligible for the job.

Not so, and that is why the Philip Berg lawsuit was dismissed from federal court: he had no standing to bring a suit questioning the qualification of Obama to run for President.

Contrary to popular belief, and the particular phrasing uttered by Abraham Lincoln in a short speech that he gave at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in November, 1863, that the United States government is a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people", the United States government is a corporation created by the States to perform certain functions that they were unable, or unwilling, to perform. Each State is a corporation, created by the people within that State; the hierarchical arrangement being declared in Article Ten of the Bill of Rights, which declares: "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people". The federal government is not a peoples government, but a creation of the States. The "Chairman of the Board", or President, is, therefore, selected by vote of Electors from the States.

The function of the Electoral College is explained in the Constitution of the United States, in Article 2 Section 2, and the twelfth amendment. The party that wins the most votes in a state receives all of its electoral college votes. Votes cast for defeated candidates do not count.

In the United States presidential election of 1876, the Democratic candidate, Samuel J. Tilden, received 4,284,020 popular votes; the Republican Rutherford B. Hayes received 4,036,572 popular votes; but Hayes became president. Similarly, Benjamin Harrison got fewer popular votes than did Grover Cleveland in the 1888 presidential election.

 

[Gord]

Not so, and that is why the Philip Berg lawsuit was dismissed from federal court: he had no standing to bring a suit questioning the qualification of Obama to run for President.

Contrary to popular belief, and the particular phrasing uttered by Abraham Lincoln in a short speech that he gave at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in November, 1863, that the United States government is a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people", the United States government is a corporation created by the States to perform certain functions that they were unable, or unwilling, to perform. Each State is a corporation, created by the people within that State; the hierarchical arrangement being declared in Article Ten of the Bill of Rights, which declares: "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people". The federal government is not a peoples government, but a creation of the States. The "Chairman of the Board", or President, is, therefore, selected by vote of Electors from the States.

The function of the Electoral College is explained in the Constitution of the United States, in Article 2 Section 2, and the twelfth amendment. The party that wins the most votes in a state receives all of its electoral college votes. Votes cast for defeated candidates do not count.

In the United States presidential election of 1876, the Democratic candidate, Samuel J. Tilden, received 4,284,020 popular votes; the Republican Rutherford B. Hayes received 4,036,572 popular votes; but Hayes became president. Similarly, Benjamin Harrison got fewer popular votes than did Grover Cleveland in the 1888 presidential election.

There should be no need to go to court. Obama has repeatedly accused the Bush administration of harboring secrets and promised a new transparency. Well, where the hell is that transparency?

Can't see original vault certificate of live birth

Can't investigate Kenyan birth records

Can't interview Kenyan relatives

Can't inquire about his adoption by step father Lolo Soetoro

Can't inquire about his time in Indonesia

Can't see his student grades

Can't see his student writings

Can't inquire about his admitted attending of "socialist conferences"

Can't inquire about his mysterious trip to Pakistan when American passports were denied entry

Can't inquire about his time as a "community organizer"

Can't see his legal cases

Can't see his state legislative records

Can't see his small donors list

Can't see his medical records

Can't see his Annenberg Challenge records without them being sanitized first

Can't inquire about his connection to Raila Odinga, the Kenyan election and the hundreds of murders by Odinga's supporters

Can't ask about his associations

Can't see a supposedly innocent video of Obama at a dinner party

Can't inquire about his shadow "Obama/Biden Transition Project"


Some transparency...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

he hasnt been sworn in yet
can you point to the article in the constitution where it actually covers this kind of incident?

Amendment 25 for one

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

But more importantly Amendment 20.

The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

interesting question. if he was unqualified to serve, then wouldn't the runner up for the election, mccain, be the next choice?

NO, Read the 20th Amendment to the Constitution. I already posted it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I've really no idea how this would play out. IMO, the majority voted for a democrat so the electoral college would just select another democrat. I suspect this is how the idiot that is bringing these suits is thinking since he's a Hillary supporter.

Are you people incapable of checking the Constitution?

 

[Ravi]

Are you people incapable of checking the Constitution?

Yeah, but we get lazy. We were counting on you to tell us the answer.

 

[del]

Yeah, but we get lazy. We were counting on you to tell us the answer.

what is this "Constitution" he speaks of?