Breaking News from Genesis 1:9

[DOTR]

We know of exactly one system with life, it seems premature to say this is the only type that could ever support life. If we find life on other planets or other solar systems would that falsify your belief in God. I'm sure it wouldn't so without being falsifiable it is not a scientific theory.

No, it won't change our faith but it will cause problems for the Bible as God did not send his only son Jesus to save aliens. In terms of science it would show that life is rare but could still exist in another place in our galaxy or universe. It may mean we could be multi-planetary.

That said, the evidence is for no aliens as enough time has passed despite the search. Will you admit there are no aliens if none is discovered by 2025?

Everyone makes mistakes, it doesn't mean everything they've done is wrong. Even the founding fathers of Christianity, Jesus and Paul made mistakes.

No, but in science it means they failed in one of the major things they were working on. The multiverse scientists have wasted their lives on it. Likely, the string, superstring, and multi-dimension scientists will have wasted their careers, too.

It's just like if the Bible was contradicted. Disproving Jesus' resurrection would destroy the religion. Aliens not as much, but it would put a blemish on the Bible. The same with the other things Antibiblists believe in such as evolution, abiogenesis, old Earth and universe, an so on.

In terms of religion, if one fails then it means they disobeyed God's one commandment like Adam and Eve, but this time end up in the wrong final destination.

There is no life outside of earth. But from alang1216 comments above you can see why they have such a deep abiding faith in the idea. They think alien life would destroy Christianity. Why they think that I don’t know. It’s just one of the tenets of their religion and you know how hard blind faith is to argue through. To them “it just must be true”

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is no life outside of earth.

Shaman DOTR has spoken!

They think alien life would destroy Christianity.

What is this crap? That wouldn't destroy Christianity anymore than finding out the creation story was garbage destroyed christianity. Christianity is a magical myth, you can snap-fit it to anything we know.

 

[james bond]

There is no life outside of earth.

Shaman DOTR has spoken!

They think alien life would destroy Christianity.

What is this crap? That wouldn't destroy Christianity anymore than finding out the creation story was garbage destroyed christianity. Christianity is a magical myth, you can snap-fit it to anything we know.

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime? You just ignore science unless it fits the circumstantial fairy tale of the sky fairy Satan and mythological tale of Antibible evolution.

Where are your links to the evidence of aliens ?

Are you going to call Mulder and Scully now? At least you're good for comic relief.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime?

Because that is not conclusive evidence, or even evidence at all, that there is no life outside of earth.

thanks for the stupid fucking question.

 

[james bond]

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime?

Because that is not conclusive evidence, or even evidence at all, that there is no life outside of earth.

thanks for the stupid fucking question.

See, you still have no evidence for aliens. DOTR and I are laughing are asses off at you. You had so many chances to provide it, but it's all sky fairy tale of atheists and evolution.

 

[alang1216]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

What Constantine did was establish the church of Rome as THE orthodox Christian church. All other flavors of Christianity became heretical.

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

 

[Hollie]

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime?

Because that is not conclusive evidence, or even evidence at all, that there is no life outside of earth.

thanks for the stupid fucking question.

See, you still have no evidence for aliens. DOTR and I are laughing are asses off at you. You had so many chances to provide it, but it's all sky fairy tale of atheists and evolution.

Not surprisingly, your comment is another display of profound ignorance. Neither atheism nor biological evolution as we know it on this planet have any connection to alien life whether it exists or not.

 

[Hollie]

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime?

Because that is not conclusive evidence, or even evidence at all, that there is no life outside of earth.

thanks for the stupid fucking question.

See, you still have no evidence for aliens. DOTR and I are laughing are asses off at you. You had so many chances to provide it, but it's all sky fairy tale of atheists and evolution.

While you're laughing, remember you have provided no evidence for your partisan version of gods.

It's not polite to point and laugh..... but you bring it upon yourself.

 

[DOTR]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

What Constantine did was establish the church of Rome as THE orthodox Christian church. All other flavors of Christianity became heretical.
.

The Arminian, Coptic, Syriac and a dozen other ancient churches were never under the sway of Rome or Byzantium and are not considered heretical.
Church councils defined heresy. Not the Emperor.

 

[DOTR]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

 

[alang1216]

Church councils defined heresy. Not the Emperor.

True enough but I find it highly coincidental that the Christian church of Rome, the city of the Emperor, emerged from those councils as preeminent.

 

[alang1216]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

 

[DOTR]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

Not not by everyone. Is that supposed to be news? Eventually they killed Him.

 

[james bond]

How is he a shaman when there has been no aliens for over one's lifetime?

Because that is not conclusive evidence, or even evidence at all, that there is no life outside of earth.

thanks for the stupid fucking question.

See, you still have no evidence for aliens. DOTR and I are laughing are asses off at you. You had so many chances to provide it, but it's all sky fairy tale of atheists and evolution.

While you're laughing, remember you have provided no evidence for your partisan version of gods.

It's not polite to point and laugh..... but you bring it upon yourself.

I have. It's just your religion of atheism won't allow you to accept it. It's Satan's Antibible at work as you are tricked and deceived. Otherwise, you'd have the explanations, links, youtubes, books, and more.

 

[alang1216]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

Not not by everyone. Is that supposed to be news? Eventually they killed Him.

Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.” (NIV)

 

[james bond]

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

You're acting just the Jews in Jesus' hometown. Are you a Jew without faith or one without faith?

When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.

smh. The unforgiven.

"So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house. Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.” Mark 3:23-29

Why did you bring this up???!!!???!!! Is this you?

 

[DOTR]

Church councils defined heresy. Not the Emperor.

True enough but I find it highly coincidental that the Christian church of Rome, the city of the Emperor, emerged from those councils as preeminent.

The Roman Church was already preeminent when Constantine's gggg grandparents were babies.

see Clement writing in 80AD LINK
Ignatius in 110AD LINK
Irenaeus in 180 AD LINK

 

[DOTR]

(That ought to also preempt any nonsense about Constantine making Jesus into God. Christians knew Jesus was God when He walked the Earth)

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

Not not by everyone. Is that supposed to be news? Eventually they killed Him.

Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.” (NIV)

Yeah who knows who was meant by His "relatives" or why they said that. Maybe to save Him in their minds.However you didnt read far enough. His family hadn't arrived yet. Later in the narrative...

Mark 3:31 His mother and his brothers arrived. Standing outside they sent word to him and called him.
32A crowd seated around him told him, “Your mother and your brothers* [and your sisters] are outside asking for you.”

But as per usual this is running far afield. From the original claim that the Bible was "reconstructed" you have wormed your way to quoting it a an authority. Always ends up this way.

 

[james bond]

It's pretty clear that very few people who knew Jesus believed he was God. I seem to recall He was rejected by his family, including his mother. Odd since she gave birth to Jesus as a virgin.

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

Not not by everyone. Is that supposed to be news? Eventually they killed Him.

Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.” (NIV)

Yeah who knows who was meant by His "relatives" or why they said that. Maybe to save Him in their minds.However you didnt read far enough. His family hadn't arrived yet. Later in the narrative...

Mark 3:31 His mother and his brothers arrived. Standing outside they sent word to him and called him.
32A crowd seated around him told him, “Your mother and your brothers* [and your sisters] are outside asking for you.”

But as per usual this is running far afield. From the original claim that the Bible was "reconstructed" you have wormed your way to quoting it a an authority. Always ends up this way.

I'm reminded of what goes around comes around. Matthew is one of the hardest to read and deal with. I still haven't gotten through it as it relates to my life. It's Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, but alang1216 wants us Christians to get it full blast. Why he chose that out of the others I have no idea? Is he the unforgiven?



Listen to what James Hatfield wrote about his Christian family. Does he want that upon us?

 

[DOTR]

He most certainly was never rejected by His family.
Anyone who didn’t know he was God ignored His plain statements as to the fact. The Jews tried to stone him for it.

“They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so.”

Pliny 112 AD


As far back as we can see He was worshipped as God.

Maybe you're only looking as hard as you want to see? He certainly wasn't worshiped by everyone he met, otherwise it's curious that he would say: "Prophets are not without honour, except in their hometown, and among their own kin, and in their own house." (Mark 6:1-6)

Not not by everyone. Is that supposed to be news? Eventually they killed Him.

Mark 3:20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.” (NIV)

Yeah who knows who was meant by His "relatives" or why they said that. Maybe to save Him in their minds.However you didnt read far enough. His family hadn't arrived yet. Later in the narrative...

Mark 3:31 His mother and his brothers arrived. Standing outside they sent word to him and called him.
32A crowd seated around him told him, “Your mother and your brothers* [and your sisters] are outside asking for you.”

But as per usual this is running far afield. From the original claim that the Bible was "reconstructed" you have wormed your way to quoting it a an authority. Always ends up this way.

I'm reminded of what goes around comes around. Matthew is one of the hardest to read and deal with. I still haven't gotten through it as it relates to my life. It's Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, but alang1216 wants us Christians to get it full blast. Why he chose that out of the others I have no idea? Is he the unforgiven?



Listen to what James Hatfield wrote about his Christian family. Does he want that upon us?

Yes. The obsession has a reason. And Jesus spoke in parables for a reason. Im always careful not to get into Bible quoting with these puritan atheist Bible thumpers. It wasnt intended for them and it cant be grasped by them. Their obsession comes because they know there is truth there...but the only understanding they have of it is that they stand condemned before it. Basically its a long loud yell of " please dotn be true please dont be true"

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
under their feet, and turn again and rend you.