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ribbons mounted cost $$?? wtf?? !!! mounted to what??!!

if they wear cammies--no cost
you have to have a haircut anyway
you should have those shoes already--or shined shoes already-
-lazy??!!!what unit is THAT??
--but I was in the USMC--what unit were you with? you didn't have inspections?

He was Navy ... You know, the folks that make the Marines ride along for security ... :dunno:

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I'd like to know what ''mounting'' costs are?


Mounting cost is how much it costs for you to take your medals to the uniform shop and have them sewn onto a bar in the proper order. Every award has a specific rank and it has to be on your uniform in that order. It goes in order of most important award to least, from top to bottom.
 
Hey, I had a full seabag, but because there weren't many occasions that required dress blues, so the only time I wore them was maybe once or twice a year, which is why I had them freshly dry cleaned. Sitting in a closet for 6 or 8 months kinda required me to get them freshly cleaned. I didn't want to take a chance on failing.

Most times I wore working blues (had 3 sets), working whites (had 3 sets), or dungarees (only 3 sets required for inspection, but I kept 5 because of the work conditions on the ship).

Quick question....................did you wear you dress uniform every day, or was it only for special required occasions? I only had to wear them a couple of times a year. And, when you did have to wear them, didn't you get them freshly cleaned just to be sure for inspection? I did.

I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.

Like I said, I kept my ribbons up to date, but only had my medals mounted when I was required to go to a formal gig that required them. At the end of my career, a new ribbon bar was around 20 bucks for me.

And, I didn't consider my dress blues to be inspection ready after hanging in the closet for 6 to 8 months unless they were freshly dry cleaned. It's hard to keep the white piping on the Crackerjacks white if they are hanging in the closet.
I do understand. It just that we had inspections often. So we keep our uniforms up to date.

Generally, the only time we had to wear our dress uniforms was for inspection on the day we shifted from winter to summer uniforms and vice versa, or when there was a change of command or we had a visiting flag officer. Generally, inspections on the ship were about 3 to 5 times/year.
 
ribbons mounted cost $$?? wtf?? !!! mounted to what??!!

if they wear cammies--no cost
you have to have a haircut anyway
you should have those shoes already--or shined shoes already-
-lazy??!!!what unit is THAT??
--but I was in the USMC--what unit were you with? you didn't have inspections?

He was Navy ... You know, the folks that make the Marines ride along for security ... :dunno:

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I'd like to know what ''mounting'' costs are?


Mounting cost is how much it costs for you to take your medals to the uniform shop and have them sewn onto a bar in the proper order. Every award has a specific rank and it has to be on your uniform in that order. It goes in order of most important award to least, from top to bottom.


Let me guess ... You were bottom ... :dunno:

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I kept my ribbons up to date because they were relatively cheaper to maintain, but the only time I updated my medals (if required) was just before a major inspection that required them. I think I only had around 10 times where I was required to be in full dress uniform with medals. And, I generally ended up getting some type of award at least once each tour, which meant that my medals were mostly up to date, but each time I earned a new one, that would require updating my ribbons and medals. Because medals were so expensive to do, I only did it when I needed to.

I eventually learned how to do a really good spit shine which is why I quit wearing corafams. Leather shoes will last you a long time (and you get better marks on inspection), and look better than corafams if you know how to do it right, and I did.

And, I didn't consider a uniform that had been hanging in my closet for 6 to 8 months to be inspection ready unless I had it freshly cleaned.


I had a box that I got in PI, one of those ones guys use for man-jewelry (tie tacks, rings, watches, belt buckles, etc.) and had the guy take out the dividers and line the inside and the inside of the top with felt. Then I got some foam and cut it to size. This became my inspection box. When ever I gut a new ribbon or new medal then the contents of the box was updated immediately - not just before an inspection when the Exchange was busy and could screw it up.

Some of us kept our uniforms up to speed on our own and not when directed to. ;)

The trick with your uniforms was to get them cleaned and pressed immediately after the inspection and then hang them up properly. That doesn't let the BO settle in for months prior to the next cleaning. When you were good you could take the uniform out, do a little touch-up pressing with a steam iron and moist linen cloth. It (using a linen cloth) steams the creases fresh and having the towel between the uniform and iron prevents any iron marks you can sometime get when ironing directly on the uniform cloth. Use a fine linen or cotten cloth instead of something like a "bath towel" because of the fine weave and no nap like a bath towel. The LAST thing I wanted to do was turn my inspection uniform over to the dry cleaners before a major inspection. To many "Murphy's Law" possibilities.


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Yep. I didn't do the jewelry box but know guys who did. I did have a good quality suit protector that I kept My service dress in. Kept it from getting dusty and as you say, a quick press before wearing it was all that usually needed to be done.

I actually only removed My ribbon bars and medals when I updated them, which wasn't often. Mostly I just ended up adding oak leaf clusters. I served during a pretty peaceful time. 81 to 90.
 
You know, you guys keep saying that the parade will honor the military, but I can tell you from experience that it is more of a pain in the ass than anything.

You gotta get a haircut (10 bucks), you gotta get your uniform dry cleaned (15 bucks), if you have awards, you will have to get your ribbons and medals mounted (can be anywhere from a couple of bucks to a whole bunch. At the end of my career, it would cost me about 35 dollars to get them done). And, if you are lazy and don't know how to spit shine your shoes, it could be the cost of a pair of corafam shoes (shiny plastic shoes that look good for inspection, 45 bucks).

And, you have to spend all that money just to look good for a couple of hours. And yes, there is ALWAYS a personnel inspection before an event like this.
Well, I don't know about the Navy, but in the Air Force, all of what you just said was required dress code in compliance with AFR 35-10. At all times, you had to have a properly maintained uniform in all the required uniform sets. That would be Battle Dress Uniforms (cammies), approved casual fatigues (daily work uniforms), dress blues, and I'm not sure, but the officers had to maintain formal uniforms for those occasions where a flag officer was presiding. I can't recall the name of that set. Mess Dress or something like that.

Hey, I had a full seabag, but because there weren't many occasions that required dress blues, so the only time I wore them was maybe once or twice a year, which is why I had them freshly dry cleaned. Sitting in a closet for 6 or 8 months kinda required me to get them freshly cleaned. I didn't want to take a chance on failing.

Most times I wore working blues (had 3 sets), working whites (had 3 sets), or dungarees (only 3 sets required for inspection, but I kept 5 because of the work conditions on the ship).

Quick question....................did you wear you dress uniform every day, or was it only for special required occasions? I only had to wear them a couple of times a year. And, when you did have to wear them, didn't you get them freshly cleaned just to be sure for inspection? I did.

I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
 
Well, I don't know about the Navy, but in the Air Force, all of what you just said was required dress code in compliance with AFR 35-10. At all times, you had to have a properly maintained uniform in all the required uniform sets. That would be Battle Dress Uniforms (cammies), approved casual fatigues (daily work uniforms), dress blues, and I'm not sure, but the officers had to maintain formal uniforms for those occasions where a flag officer was presiding. I can't recall the name of that set. Mess Dress or something like that.

Hey, I had a full seabag, but because there weren't many occasions that required dress blues, so the only time I wore them was maybe once or twice a year, which is why I had them freshly dry cleaned. Sitting in a closet for 6 or 8 months kinda required me to get them freshly cleaned. I didn't want to take a chance on failing.

Most times I wore working blues (had 3 sets), working whites (had 3 sets), or dungarees (only 3 sets required for inspection, but I kept 5 because of the work conditions on the ship).

Quick question....................did you wear you dress uniform every day, or was it only for special required occasions? I only had to wear them a couple of times a year. And, when you did have to wear them, didn't you get them freshly cleaned just to be sure for inspection? I did.

I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
 
I guess they changed the uniform regulation since last I was active. It is now listed under AFI 36-2903
AFSC's have changed also.
Have they? I'm not surprised. I remember when the inverted chevron only pertained to E-8 and E-9. Now I see they start at E-7.
AFSC 54231 Electric Powerline Specialist is now broken down to a 3 for Civil Engineering, the 2nd digit identifies the career field, then skill level and rank and job division and specific skill.

Out of Tech School, at Sheppard AFB, the AFSC would be 3A031, if correct.
 
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Hey, I had a full seabag, but because there weren't many occasions that required dress blues, so the only time I wore them was maybe once or twice a year, which is why I had them freshly dry cleaned. Sitting in a closet for 6 or 8 months kinda required me to get them freshly cleaned. I didn't want to take a chance on failing.

Most times I wore working blues (had 3 sets), working whites (had 3 sets), or dungarees (only 3 sets required for inspection, but I kept 5 because of the work conditions on the ship).

Quick question....................did you wear you dress uniform every day, or was it only for special required occasions? I only had to wear them a couple of times a year. And, when you did have to wear them, didn't you get them freshly cleaned just to be sure for inspection? I did.

I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Lost me there. I have never seen that. When were you in?
 
I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Lost me there. I have never seen that. When were you in?
81 to 90.

Looking up the new codes, I guess I would be redesignated as a 9S100.

I was assigned to a DRU. Air Force Technical Applications Command, assigned to the Air Force Technical Applications Center at Mcclellan, AFB, CA
 
Hey, I had a full seabag, but because there weren't many occasions that required dress blues, so the only time I wore them was maybe once or twice a year, which is why I had them freshly dry cleaned. Sitting in a closet for 6 or 8 months kinda required me to get them freshly cleaned. I didn't want to take a chance on failing.

Most times I wore working blues (had 3 sets), working whites (had 3 sets), or dungarees (only 3 sets required for inspection, but I kept 5 because of the work conditions on the ship).

Quick question....................did you wear you dress uniform every day, or was it only for special required occasions? I only had to wear them a couple of times a year. And, when you did have to wear them, didn't you get them freshly cleaned just to be sure for inspection? I did.

I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Systems operator?
 
I guess they changed the uniform regulation since last I was active. It is now listed under AFI 36-2903
AFSC's have changed also.
Have they? I'm not surprised. I remember when the inverted chevron only pertained to E-8 and E-9. Now I see they start at E-7.
AFSC 54321 Electric Powerline Specials is now broken down to a 3 for Civil Engineering, the 2nd digit identifies the career field, then skill level and rank and job division and specific skill.

Out of Tech School, at Sheppard AFB, the AFSC would be 3A031, if correct.
Yeah, it looks like I'd be a 9S100
 
We’re not NK, China or Russia. Fuck Trump and his gestopo ideas.

Rep. John Kennedy (R-La) voiced opposition to President Trump's proposed military parade, saying the U.S. doesn’t need to “show off” its military power.

“I think confidence is silent and insecurity is loud,” Kennedy told reporters. “America is the most powerful country in all of human history; you don’t need to show it off


GOP senator on military parade: When you’re the most powerful nation, you don’t have to show it off
 
I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Lost me there. I have never seen that. When were you in?
We had pre 1993 AFSC's.
 
I get that. We usually had three or four base parades a year. We were still required to keep on full, in regulation, Service Dress uniform. That included making sure the medals were up to date. The Commander could, no his whim, call a uniform inspection and we'd be obligated to go home and change into a full dress uniform. I even had an occasion to attend a flag event in full Mess Dress so I had one of those uniforms. I didn't keep that one up though. That dress required the actual medals, not just the ribbons. Air Force uniforms are pretty damn dull if you ask Me. At the time, I was thankful for that given what the Marine full dress looks like.

See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Systems operator?
No. We did enviromental sampling and testing for the 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty. Specifically, we worked on suspected bomb test events.

In 1986, when Chernobyl exploded, we were the command tasked with identifying the specific contents and makeup of the reactor and it nucleotides production.

Today, we'd be working on events like N. Korea's underground nuclear tests. Specifically looking to see if any radioactive debris escaped their borders and if so, collecting that debris, analyzing it for bomb composition.
 
See? Even by your own admission, you didn't keep up your medals for your full Mess Dress uniform because they are expensive to mount. That is the reason the only time I updated my medals was when I had to.

My ribbon bar was kept up to date because they were relatively cheaper.

Not true. I said I wasn't sure if the regulations required us to have a full mess dress uniform. We WERE required to maintain one 35-10 Service Dress uniform. For the Air Force, Service Dress would be considered Dress Blues. Mess Dress was for formal occasions that had a flag officer or higher in attendance. I was enlisted so I wasn't required to attend formal events, and I don't remember, but I don't think enlisted were required to meet the "Mess Dress" uniform requirement, though they could if they wanted to spend out of pocket for it. I was a bit gung-ho when I was in and did things like that.
Wow...35-10...I havent heard that in a looong time. What was your AFSC?
99106
Systems operator?
No. We did enviromental sampling and testing for the 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty. Specifically, we worked on suspected bomb test events.

In 1986, when Chernobyl exploded, we were the command tasked with identifying the specific contents and makeup of the reactor and it nucleotides production.

Today, we'd be working on events like N. Korea's underground nuclear tests. Specifically looking to see if any radioactive debris escaped their borders and if so, collecting that debris, analyzing it for bomb composition.
Very cool. You were in during that sweet spot. Just the Russians. No sandbox time, no 365's. I always said that I would have preferred to have done my 20 in that sweet spot 75'-95' post Vietnam...pre sandbox...except for the 6 months we were in the Gulf for the 'Gulf War'. Nice and easy. I guess there are trade offs.
 
ribbons mounted cost $$?? wtf?? !!! mounted to what??!!

if they wear cammies--no cost
you have to have a haircut anyway
you should have those shoes already--or shined shoes already-
-lazy??!!!what unit is THAT??
--but I was in the USMC--what unit were you with? you didn't have inspections?

He was Navy ... You know, the folks that make the Marines ride along for security ... :dunno:

.
I'd like to know what ''mounting'' costs are?


Mounting cost is how much it costs for you to take your medals to the uniform shop and have them sewn onto a bar in the proper order. Every award has a specific rank and it has to be on your uniform in that order. It goes in order of most important award to least, from top to bottom.
I was in for 8 years--I never heard of that
 

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