Breaking: Multiple explosions heard in Caracas, Venezuela

[toobfreak]

So, now it's the end of he world because we removed a indicted narco terrorist from power? What a drama queen.

Some people do not take sides with their own country and are willing to admit that play or not, if we don't take advantage of the Maduro thing in Vz for /ourselves/, then someone else WILL--- most assuredly, China.

And we are way, way better off controlling that oil right off our coast than if China does.

Trump doing this just may have saved the Dollar, and all these people bitching about Trump, just imagine if suddenly all of their dollars became worth only three cents each?

 

[JGalt]

Everything's fine! The day after tomorrow, they'll come to your house and kick you out because, according to their information, you earned it by dealing drugs. And they even have a legal precedent. But for now, enjoy yourself.

We don't live in the UK, bro. That's shit you have to worry about, not we Americans.

We can say what we damned well please without having to worry about hurting someone's feelings. We can own as many guns as we want, build shooting ranges in your our yards, and tell the world to piss off.

 

[j-mac]

Some people do not take sides with their own country and are willing to admit that play or not, if we don't take advantage of the Maduro thing in Vz for /ourselves/, then someone else WILL--- most assuredly, China.

And we are way, way better off controlling that oil right off our coast than if China does.

Trump doing this just may have saved the Dollar, and all these people bitching about Trump, just imagine if suddenly all of their dollars became worth only three cents each?

Well, I think that's on the right path...Look, the socialist left in this country will have a conniption over the oil. It's their go to, in order to call the US, "imperialist" among other things....The fact of the matter is that VZ owes the US about $11 billion in oil contracts from when they just took it and gave it to China.

They talk of dominance, but the reality is that VZ is letting all kinds of malignant powers into our hemisphere...China, Russia, and Hezbollah...That can not stand. So, finally we have a President who took action...And it's about time.

Now, why he has any trust in that VP is beyond me, but that's above my pay grade. We will see as it plays out. But the bottom line is that Maduro is out, and the US is in...And, all of the S. American nations like Columbia, and Cuba are on notice. We will no longer allow our enemies to operate in our back yard.

And I think it's a good thing...

 

[JoeB131]

Well, I think that's on the right path...Look, the socialist left in this country will have a conniption over the oil. It's their go to, in order to call the US, "imperialist" among other things....The fact of the matter is that VZ owes the US about $11 billion in oil contracts from when they just took it and gave it to China.

Wait now. VZ owns that oil, they can give it to whoever they want. Or they can just choose to leave it in the ground if they want to. The notion that we have any claim on another country's resources is dubious at best.

They talk of dominance, but the reality is that VZ is letting all kinds of malignant powers into our hemisphere...China, Russia, and Hezbollah...That can not stand. So, finally we have a President who took action...And it's about time.

Except he's made it more likely that VZ will get closer to these countries.

Now, why he has any trust in that VP is beyond me, but that's above my pay grade. We will see as it plays out. But the bottom line is that Maduro is out, and the US is in...And, all of the S. American nations like Columbia, and Cuba are on notice. We will no longer allow our enemies to operate in our back yard.

Wow, you really are a stupid person.

The basic thing to understand about Trump, beyond the malignant narcissism, is the man doesn't want to do the hard work to solve a problem. Grabbing Maduro and then cutting a deal with Delcy allows him to declare "Mission Accomplished" and just go home.

 

[Ringo]

 

[j-mac]

Wait now. VZ owns that oil, they can give it to whoever they want. Or they can just choose to leave it in the ground if they want to. The notion that we have any claim on another country's resources is dubious at best.

Um, No. They had contracts that the international court said was OURS! They took it, and gave it to our enemies. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-refiners-win-chinese-rivals-lose-trumps-venezuela-strike-2026-01-04/

Except he's made it more likely that VZ will get closer to these countries.

No again. By cutting off China’s oil from VZ, we have essentially told them to get out of our back yard.

Wow, you really are a stupid person.

Says the ignorant moron repeating MSNBC talking points…

The basic thing to understand about Trump, beyond the malignant narcissism, is the man doesn't want to do the hard work to solve a problem. Grabbing Maduro and then cutting a deal with Delcy allows him to declare "Mission Accomplished" and just go home.

We shall see how it plays, but my guess is that she’s out too…And the mission will be accomplished when the big picture is done. VZ is only the start.

 

[JoeB131]

Um, No. They had contracts that the international court said was OURS! They took it, and gave it to our enemies. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

China isn't our enemy. The worst thing a Chinese person has ever done to me is put too much spice in my food (but I married her anyway)

That's not our oil, it's their oil. They have a right to sell it to whoever they wish to.

No again. By cutting off China’s oil from VZ, we have essentially told them to get out of our back yard.

Yet China is better liked in most of the third world than we are.

We shall see how it plays, but my guess is that she’s out too…And the mission will be accomplished when the big picture is done. VZ is only the start.

Hey, remember how Bush said the Iraq invasion would pay for itself once we got rid of Saddam?

How did that work out again?

 

[Ringo]

Hey, remember how Bush said the Iraq invasion would pay for itself once we got rid of Saddam?
How did that work out again?

We'll kill a bunch of civilians, but at least we'll get rid of Saddam.
We'll plunge the country into a decade of hell, but at least we'll get rid of Gaddafi.
We'll raze a city to the ground and kill 60,000 people, but at least we'll get rid of Hamas.

Now, at least we'll get rid of Maduro...

 

[j-mac]

China isn't our enemy. The worst thing a Chinese person has ever done to me is put too much spice in my food (but I married her anyway)

That's not our oil, it's their oil. They have a right to sell it to whoever they wish to.

I thought you morons loved the International court? Just like with our own SCOTUS, you only love them when they rule the way you want them to....And China IS our enemy, you take that to the bank, I don't give a rats ass if you're married to one. In fact that probably explains more about your anti American world view than anything else...

Yet China is better liked in most of the third world than we are.

Says who? You? lol.....GTFOH. I don't see the illegal migration hordes trying to break into China you idiot...

Hey, remember how Bush said the Iraq invasion would pay for itself once we got rid of Saddam?

How did that work out again?

This isn't Iraq, not even close....You're grasping at straws here...And it shows moron.

 

[j-mac]

We'll kill a bunch of civilians, but at least we'll get rid of Saddam.
We'll plunge the country into a decade of hell, but at least we'll get rid of Gaddafi.
We'll raze a city to the ground and kill 60,000 people, but at least we'll get rid of Hamas.

Now, at least we'll get rid of Maduro...

Your support of bad actors in the world is noted.

 

[JoeB131]

I thought you morons loved the International court? Just like with our own SCOTUS, you only love them when they rule the way you want them to....And China IS our enemy, you take that to the bank, I don't give a rats ass if you're married to one. In fact that probably explains more about your anti American world view than anything else...

First, your link didn't say anything about any ICC Ruling.

Secondly, even if it did, that's a monetary issue, not a justification for kidnapping a head of state.

Says who? You? lol.....GTFOH. I don't see the illegal migration hordes trying to break into China you idiot...

Actually, China does have an immigration issue, mostly from Africa.

This isn't Iraq, not even close....You're grasping at straws here...And it shows moron.

Actually, it's pretty much the same, except now instead of fighting in a desert, we're fighting in a jungle, which would probably be much, much worse.

Again, I don't think Trump and Kegseth have a "and then what" planned. They are probably just hoping Venezuela will fold to their demands.

 

[j-mac]

First, your link didn't say anything about any ICC Ruling.

Secondly, even if it did, that's a monetary issue, not a justification for kidnapping a head of state.

Do you think Maduro was a legitimate leader of VZ?

Actually, China does have an immigration issue, mostly from Africa.

Oh my....500,000 African's in China, and to you that's a problem, when there are some estimates that upwards of at least 30 million illegals here, and that's no problem to you....Give me a break here....

Actually, it's pretty much the same, except now instead of fighting in a desert, we're fighting in a jungle, which would probably be much, much worse.

Um, we're not fighting at all....This was a LE action, nothing more....

Again, I don't think Trump and Kegseth have a "and then what" planned. They are probably just hoping Venezuela will fold to their demands.

LOL...I see what you did with Secretary Hegseth's name there...Very mature of you...But, again as usual, you could have been correct if you stopped at "Again, I don't think"...

 

[JoeB131]

Do you think Maduro was a legitimate leader of VZ?

Define legitimate. He won multiple elections (unlike Trump).

Oh my....500,000 African's in China, and to you that's a problem, when there are some estimates that upwards of at least 30 million illegals here, and that's no problem to you....Give me a break here....

It's not a problem for me, I said it was an issue.

And we have nowhere near 30 million undocumented immigrants.

Um, we're not fighting at all....This was a LE action, nothing more....

Funny, I seem to recall bombs being dropped. You don't do law enforcement with an aircraft carrier.

LOL...I see what you did with Secretary Hegseth's name there...Very mature of you...But, again as usual, you could have been correct if you stopped at "Again, I don't think"...

Hey, I'm not the one who put a serial drunk in charge of DoD.... that was immature.

You avoided the point. NOW WHAT? Hope that Rodriguez makes a deal (Trump implied they would work with her, but today she told him to pound sand.)

 

[j-mac]

Define legitimate. He won multiple elections (unlike Trump).

Did Maduro win the last election?

It's not a problem for me, I said it was an issue.

lol, sure you did, and it was laughable…

And we have nowhere near 30 million undocumented immigrants.

I suppose you think the number is still 11 million….lol

Funny, I seem to recall bombs being dropped. You don't do law enforcement with an aircraft carrier.

Oh my, scary…Still not a war.

Hey, I'm not the one who put a serial drunk in charge of DoD.... that was immature.

You avoided the point. NOW WHAT? Hope that Rodriguez makes a deal (Trump implied they would work with her, but today she told him to pound sand.)

My guess, her days are numbered too.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh my, scary…Still not a war.

it's a reality TV show stunt, and you keep falling for it....

 

[scruffy]

We don't live in the UK, bro. That's shit you have to worry about, not we Americans.

We can say what we damned well please without having to worry about hurting someone's feelings. We can own as many guns as we want, build shooting ranges in your our yards, and tell the world to piss off.

lol

Two words: David Koresh

 

[j-mac]

it's a reality TV show stunt, and you keep falling for it....

I’d bet, right about now that Maduro and his wife don’t think it’s a stunt…Say, what do you suppose their breakfast in lockup is this morning?

 

[JoeB131]

I’d bet, right about now that Maduro and his wife don’t think it’s a stunt…Say, what do you suppose their breakfast in lockup is this morning?

The point keeps going over your head, doesn't it?

Do you have some kind of learning disability?

Capturing Maduro is a stunt to change the subject. It doesn't stop the flow of drugs (which weren't coming from Venezuela, anyway) and it doesn't bring "Freedom" to Venezuela. Delcy just takes Maduro's job.

And actually putting the guy on trial in NYC is going to be... interesting. Man, what a slap in the face if a NY Jury acquits him. Then what?

(I'm talking in the hypothetical. It's been 23 years since we captured Khalid Sheik Mohammed and we still haven't put that fool on trial yet. My guess is that they'll let him languish in jail for 3 years, and some future Democrat president will cut him loose.)

 

[j-mac]

The point keeps going over your head, doesn't it?

Do you have some kind of learning disability?

I don't think in utterly stupid ways so, that would be more on you...

Capturing Maduro is a stunt to change the subject.

From what? Trump gave him all sorts of chances to step down, including offering him safe haven to get out...He, called Trump a coward....Well, I hope he enjoys those powdered eggs and moldy sausage...

It doesn't stop the flow of drugs (which weren't coming from Venezuela, anyway) and it doesn't bring "Freedom" to Venezuela. Delcy just takes Maduro's job.

This play isn't over yet....and my advise to you would be to stay tuned.

And actually putting the guy on trial in NYC is going to be... interesting. Man, what a slap in the face if a NY Jury acquits him. Then what?

Not a chance....Think Noriega...

(I'm talking in the hypothetical. It's been 23 years since we captured Khalid Sheik Mohammed and we still haven't put that fool on trial yet. My guess is that they'll let him languish in jail for 3 years, and some future Democrat president will cut him loose.)

KSM is a different situation...but, it's funny that you actually think a democrat will win the Presidency in 3 years...Now, I'm not in the prediction business, and 3 years is a long time, but if situations are what they are today with democrats, I don't see it.

 

[JoeB131]

From what? Trump gave him all sorts of chances to step down, including offering him safe haven to get out...He, called Trump a coward....Well, I hope he enjoys those powdered eggs and moldy sausage...

The Epstein Files... he hopes those go away.

If you think they are treating Maduro like a perp at Riker's Island, you are deluded. They are taking very good care of him, because the worst thing that could happen is for him to come to harm in US Custody.

This play isn't over yet....and my advise to you would be to stay tuned.

Um, yeah, we've seen this play a dozen times before. Trump puts out the big distracting thing and then moves on to the next big distracting thing.

The man is a reality TV huckster, not a leader.

Not a chance....Think Noriega...

Noriega we seized his entire country. And that guy was actually guilty of something.

KSM is a different situation...but, it's funny that you actually think a democrat will win the Presidency in 3 years...Now, I'm not in the prediction business, and 3 years is a long time, but if situations are what they are today with democrats, I don't see it.

Not sure how you can say that, given the results in VA and NJ. If that trend continues in the whole Country, Vance is toast.