Breaking: 60% Of White Americans Wants Donald Trump To Cut Immigration To Zero

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

everything mexico does is out of self interest . ... .

Everything every country does is out of self-interest.

So, in the U.S jobs go to foreigners out of the countries self interest, or out of corporate self interest?

 

[Liquid Reigns]

The great "wall" idea... with its Constitution Free Zone, suspension of Liberties, and the costs that go way beyond dollars and cents. The wall is a great idea if you support socialism.

What Liberties are suspended in the CFZ? How does a wall support socialism?

 

[pismoe]

The great "wall" idea... with its Constitution Free Zone, suspension of Liberties, and the costs that go way beyond dollars and cents. The wall is a great idea if you support socialism.

What Liberties are suspended in the CFZ? How does a wall support socialism?

The great "wall" idea... with its Constitution Free Zone, suspension of Liberties, and the costs that go way beyond dollars and cents. The wall is a great idea if you support socialism.

What Liberties are suspended in the CFZ? How does a wall support socialism?

-------------------------------------------- i personally think that he is simply an immigration advocate that is 'fos' and a liberal . Plus i don't think that he knows what he is talking about , might be a kid . I don't know what he means by Constitution Free ' zone or Socialism because of the WALL . And if its a 'police state' at the border policing immigration , well thats all right with me Humorme .

 

[Liquid Reigns]

He's "FOS" for sure. He's not a kid though, just a little old man with a Napoleon Complex that doesn't comprehend the very words he uses. Wait until he claims to have worked in immigration law for 6 years, which he hasn't. He's a Libertarian Socialist. Libertarian socialism - Wikipedia

 

[Slyhunter]

You are being dishonest about Mexico. American companies are willingly hiring, renting to, buying from, selling to, and otherwise doing business with people they know full well are here without papers.

Those who hate, despise, and loathe anything that even looks suspect in the area of immigrants shop at Walmart. Why? Walmart was convicted to knowingly using subcontractors that openly hired undocumented workers. The federal government cannot save you from your own actions.

And you are being dishonest with your claims. How do you know someone is in fact an illegal? If they give you a Drivers License and a SS Card, how do you know? Are you basing your assumption on color or language?

Walmart wasn't convicted of anything, they actually won on appeal. Wal-Mart wins appeal of immigrant janitor case

Exactly how do you know IF someone is here illegally if you give them a Drivers license and a SS card. These things should be reserved for citizens only!

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Exactly how do you know IF someone is here illegally if you give them a Drivers license and a SS card. These things should be reserved for citizens only!

I agree, a foreigner would have a drivers license from their own country and if they drive here they can purchase insurance with their countries license. No foreigner should have an SS number unless they are allowed to work here and the SS card specifically states for work authorization only. No child should be given a SS number unless the parent(s) also have an SS number.

 

[Humorme]

so then , whats to do , stop having mohammad cartoon contests and become a 'dhimmi' because if you have the mohammad cartoon contest muslims may go crazy and murder people Humorme .

I know you directed that at me, but I don't know what you're asking.

 

[pismoe]

so then , whats to do , stop having mohammad cartoon contests and become a 'dhimmi' because if you have the mohammad cartoon contest muslims may go crazy and murder people Humorme .

I know you directed that at me, but I don't know what you're asking.

----------------------------------------------- not really asking as i note that never in the history of Western civilization or USA history has it ever been a problem to draw 'mohammad' cartoons or pictures until muslims showed up in the USA and in Frances Western civilization Humorme.

 

[Humorme]

The great "wall" idea... with its Constitution Free Zone, suspension of Liberties, and the costs that go way beyond dollars and cents. The wall is a great idea if you support socialism.

What Liberties are suspended in the CFZ? How does a wall support socialism?

The great "wall" idea... with its Constitution Free Zone, suspension of Liberties, and the costs that go way beyond dollars and cents. The wall is a great idea if you support socialism.

What Liberties are suspended in the CFZ? How does a wall support socialism?

-------------------------------------------- i personally think that he is simply an immigration advocate that is 'fos' and a liberal . Plus i don't think that he knows what he is talking about , might be a kid . I don't know what he means by Constitution Free ' zone or Socialism because of the WALL . And if its a 'police state' at the border policing immigration , well thats all right with me Humorme .

On the contrary. In my home state, despite the right ignoring the side of the issue that really wants to control immigration, one of our U.S. Senators introduced a bill to limit "legal" immigration. If some people are honest, they will tell you that I have been lobbying my pols for years on that point alone. We will have roughly 780,000 people becoming citizens this year and about half that many allowed to work (and leave) in the U.S.

The Constitution Free Zone is that area within 100 miles of the U.S. border where the Constitution is secondary to the supposed "need" to enforce border security.





You've said you'll be content with socialism if it helps in your immigration battle, so there is nothing to discuss there.

 

[pismoe]

like i said earlier , i think you are full of sh1t Humorme .

 

[pismoe]

so then , whats to do , stop having mohammad cartoon contests and become a 'dhimmi' because if you have the mohammad cartoon contest muslims may go crazy and murder people Humorme .

I know you directed that at me, but I don't know what you're asking.

----------------------------------------------- not really asking as i note that never in the history of Western civilization or USA history has it ever been a problem to draw 'mohammad' cartoons or pictures until muslims showed up in the USA and in Frances Western civilization Humorme.

----------------------------------- answer to Humormes question in number 127 .

 

[Humorme]

You are being dishonest about Mexico. American companies are willingly hiring, renting to, buying from, selling to, and otherwise doing business with people they know full well are here without papers.

Those who hate, despise, and loathe anything that even looks suspect in the area of immigrants shop at Walmart. Why? Walmart was convicted to knowingly using subcontractors that openly hired undocumented workers. The federal government cannot save you from your own actions.

And you are being dishonest with your claims. How do you know someone is in fact an illegal? If they give you a Drivers License and a SS Card, how do you know? Are you basing your assumption on color or language?

Walmart wasn't convicted of anything, they actually won on appeal. Wal-Mart wins appeal of immigrant janitor case

Exactly how do you know IF someone is here illegally if you give them a Drivers license and a SS card. These things should be reserved for citizens only!

250 workers arrested at Wal-Mart on immigration charges - Oct. 23, 2003

While it's true I have not followed the cases - and there are quite a few, Walmart DID hire undocumented workers via third party sources. It was major news. The right sat on their arse and allowed business to go on as usual, hoping the government would save people from their own actions. There were no right wing protests, no boycotts and no community action.

I don't know the source of your criticisms, but a driver's license in a de jure / legal / lawful Republic is NOT ID. It's permission to operate a vehicle on the roads.

Insofar as the SSN, talk to the IRS. They require people to pay the tax regardless of immigration status.

 

[Humorme]

like i said earlier , i think you are full of sh1t Humorme .

The sentiment works both ways.

Despite years of denials, game playing, and lies by critics not one has ever came to the meetings I attend and told an audience that face to face. So, spew that swill all you like. The facts still stand.

 

[Humorme]

so then , whats to do , stop having mohammad cartoon contests and become a 'dhimmi' because if you have the mohammad cartoon contest muslims may go crazy and murder people Humorme .

I know you directed that at me, but I don't know what you're asking.

----------------------------------------------- not really asking as i note that never in the history of Western civilization or USA history has it ever been a problem to draw 'mohammad' cartoons or pictures until muslims showed up in the USA and in Frances Western civilization Humorme.

And I'm still on record that we should not let ANY Muslim into this country. They are at war with us and you would have to be a damn idiot to deny it.

 

[pismoe]

and i think that they they give out Taxpayer ID rather than social security numbers HMe .

 

[pismoe]

like i said earlier , i think you are full of sh1t Humorme .

The sentiment works both ways.

Despite years of denials, game playing, and lies by critics not one has ever came to the meetings I attend and told an audience that face to face. So, spew that swill all you like. The facts still stand.

-------------------- yep , you are heroic HMe .

 

[Humorme]

and i think that they they give out Taxpayer ID rather than social security numbers HMe .

According to the Chief Actuary for the Social Security Administration, 75 percent of the people in the United States without papers have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same income tax that citizens do. They pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS a year into Socialist Security, but are prohibited by law from ever drawing any of that money out.

What should we do? Until the National Socialists co-opted this fight, patriots were on top of the issue. We had legislation on the table to abolish the 16th Amendment, getting rid of the income tax and replacing it. The idea would have passed if not for the National Socialists conning the right into using the SSN for de facto ID used in the National ID / REAL ID Act. So, my critics wanted to retain the income tax (a plank out of the Communist Manifesto) and create that atmosphere of the pee test, blood test, hair sample, MVR check, credit check, criminal background check, firearms license, occupation license, driver's license (National ID / REAL ID Act Card / E Verify), proof of insurance, access to social media accounts, 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance, drones in the sky, etc., etc.

You can believe anyone you want, but the more you rely on the government to resolve this issue for you, the more problems you will create. Everything that glitters is not gold and every time you ask for a new law, it will come with a price.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

According to the Chief Actuary for the Social Security Administration, 75 percent of the people in the United States without papers have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same income tax that citizens do. They pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS a year into Socialist Security, but are prohibited by law from ever drawing any of that money out.

Still posting this crap? Those numbers are for illegal workers which include women who failed to have their last names changed after marriage or divorce. The employer pays half that number. At best illegal immigrants pay roughly $3 B into the required tax with holdings. Those taxes go into a separate account, not even the SS account. In instances some can obtain that SS at age due to Totalization Agreements with their country of origin.

Every year, the Social Security Administration collects billions of dollars in taxes that it doesn’t know who paid. Whenever employers send in W-2 forms that have Social Security numbers that don’t match with anyone on record, the agency routes the paperwork to what’s called the Earnings Suspense File, where it sits until people can prove the wages were theirs, allowing them to one day collect retirement benefits.

The Earnings Suspense File now contains Social Security tax forms that date back to 1937 and are linked to the taxes that were paid on nearly $1.3 trillion in wages. Some of the W-2s in it belong to people who got married and never reported changing their name. Others are people who filled out their tax forms incorrectly. As of 2014, efforts to track these taxpayers down allowed the Social Security Administration to match 171 million tax forms to their rightful owners.

The Truth About Undocumented Immigrants and Taxes

What should we do? Until the National Socialists co-opted this fight, patriots were on top of the issue. We had legislation on the table to abolish the 16th Amendment, getting rid of the income tax and replacing it. The idea would have passed if not for the National Socialists conning the right into using the SSN for de facto ID used in the National ID / REAL ID Act. So, my critics wanted to retain the income tax (a plank out of the Communist Manifesto) and create that atmosphere of the pee test, blood test, hair sample, MVR check, credit check, criminal background check, firearms license, occupation license, driver's license (National ID / REAL ID Act Card / E Verify), proof of insurance, access to social media accounts, 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance, drones in the sky, etc., etc.

You can believe anyone you want, but the more you rely on the government to resolve this issue for you, the more problems you will create. Everything that glitters is not gold and every time you ask for a new law, it will come with a price.

Patriots were on top of it? There was no legislation on the table to abolish the 16th. Whatever there was didn't even make it to committee.

 

[Humorme]

According to the Chief Actuary for the Social Security Administration, 75 percent of the people in the United States without papers have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and pay the same income tax that citizens do. They pay roughly $12 BILLION DOLLARS a year into Socialist Security, but are prohibited by law from ever drawing any of that money out.

What should we do? Until the National Socialists co-opted this fight, patriots were on top of the issue. We had legislation on the table to abolish the 16th Amendment, getting rid of the income tax and replacing it. The idea would have passed if not for the National Socialists conning the right into using the SSN for de facto ID used in the National ID / REAL ID Act. So, my critics wanted to retain the income tax (a plank out of the Communist Manifesto) and create that atmosphere of the pee test, blood test, hair sample, MVR check, credit check, criminal background check, firearms license, occupation license, driver's license (National ID / REAL ID Act Card / E Verify), proof of insurance, access to social media accounts, 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance, drones in the sky, etc., etc.

You can believe anyone you want, but the more you rely on the government to resolve this issue for you, the more problems you will create. Everything that glitters is not gold and every time you ask for a new law, it will come with a price.

Still posting this crap? Those numbers are for illegal workers which include women who failed to have their last names changed after marriage or divorce. The employer pays half that number. At best illegal immigrants pay roughly $3 B into the required tax with holdings. Those taxes go into a separate account, not even the SS account. In instances some can obtain that SS at age due to Totalization Agreements with their country of origin.

Blah, blah, blah. Still telling lies and misrepresenting the truth, huh?

TA does not apply when the foreigner is here without permission and you know it. I'm getting tired of teaching you what I know just to have your lying arse deny whose teaching you AND you're trying to lie about me.

Don't be offended when I ignore you from here on out. You've been exposed and outed on more boards than I can count for your proven lies and misrepresentations.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

Blah, blah, blah. Still telling lies and misrepresenting the truth, huh?

TA does not apply when the foreigner is here without permission and you know it. I'm getting tired of teaching you what I know just to have your lying arse deny whose teaching you AND you're trying to lie about me.

Don't be offended when I ignore you from here on out. You've been exposed and outed on more boards than I can count for your proven lies and misrepresentations.

TA's apply whether they worked here legally or illegally, all they have to do is prove the number filed with was the number they used.

You teaching me? Don't make me laugh, you're so full of shit that your stench is smelled all across the web. I hope to god you do ignore me, it makes it even more hilarious. Maybe you should go back to being Buddycolt. Is it really "illegal?"

Yea, you had your ass handed to you in there by Liablity.