Breaking: 60% Of White Americans Wants Donald Trump To Cut Immigration To Zero

[longknife]

An interesting point. I just read in a Mexican blog that output is increasing due to well-trained returning to their work force. Some states have set up special programs for those returning from the USA.

Really? Link

Don't have one. It was on Mexico Daily News, a site I visit daily on Feedly.

 

[DOTR]

Sounds like the government should listen to its citizens and act accordingly.

60% (allegedly) of white Americans is to 60% of the country.

bigoted white supremacist scum should listen to the rest of us.

or you can always go away. because, thankfully we have a Constitution and that includes equal protection for the rest of us and you're white bigoted trash.

enjoy your trailer park.

Wow Jillian. What a disgusting, steaming pile of bigotry you left lying there. I think you deserve a gold star for that nice post about white people.

 

[DOTR]

When their Identities Are concealed vs 39% when they are not. You see my friends, this is the silent White majority I speak of that was the catalyst to electing Donald Trump as our glorious leader. It's time to turn the switch off on immigration completely so we can make babies and return this country to the specific people the founders created this country for via the Naturalization Act of 1790. The multicultural infestation into our country must cease! Donald Trump is the man that will make it happen. His beautiful Wall is just the beginning.

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and what percentage of the country are white supreacist men, kkk loon?

White supremacist men cant vote?

 

[DOTR]

I say , stop ALL immigration into the USA .

I agree. Until you can show me why I need them. And it is what we have been asking for. There are laws on the book to restrict immigration but they arent enforced. Lets start by enforcing them. No need for new laws or...whats the shibboleth the left uses...oh yes..."comprehensive immigration reform".

 

[charwin95]

first off , deport , deport and then deport some more . After that do as you like after no immigrant allowed in the USA Humorme

All of that deport language sounds good, but then again not. The problem is, in order to deport people, they must be brought to the attention of the federal authorities by virtue of probable cause.

You can't just deport someone; you have to suspect that they have committed a crime. Then that subjects them to arrest.

Then, even if you deport all those without papers, there is the flip side to the coin. If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble.

BTW, what kind of problem are you trying to resolve?

What kind of problem Pismoe is trying to resolve?
Pismoe wants to convert the entire population of USA to be ALL white. With the help of Trump and their last hope.
He hates all minorities and there are several of them here like Pismoe.

It's disgusting.

You might be right, but I have a lot of questions for them. I did a thread with one of my more difficult questions.

I've debated the best that these guys have to offer and they don't make a lot of sense. They never say they want an all white America - they even condemn the white supremacists... but, what they do say is idiotic, at best.

The usual debating points is to challenge me to say I don't believe in enforcing the law. What? These people are all about enforcing the law to the extent that it helps deport foreigners, but seem oblivious to the fact that the 1965 Immigration laws were designed to dilute the white vote and increase the diversity of our population.

It's the most double minded horse hockey I've ever heard of. On their boards, if you demand an answer, they will shut down your account and tell you that you are persona non grata.

I'm trying to be open minded. Common sense says that you cannot flood the United States with foreigners, but we do it all bass ackward - like allowing more people in who are seeking citizenship and limiting the number of people we will allow to come in and work. The nutty wall idea - which inspires the POLICE STATE (far worse than what Orwell wrote about) is not an answer. But, I'm only looking for them to engage in civil discourse and explain their position... or do they really have one?

I've been here for over two years and I debated all of them.
One thing they are all in common is getting rid of foreigners and bunch of racist people. With no understanding ZERO or clue how important are these immigrants in this country.

 

[charwin95]

everything mexico does is out of self interest . See as they encourage the flood into the USA of their poor , uneducated mestizo population into the USA , Feck mexico and katrina as i think that was the first time the foreign troops were ever allowed on USA soil and that was engineered by the scummy 'bush' to shine a light of thanks on mexico with declarations of ' mexico helped us during katrina' . By the way , the 'jebito bush' branch of the 'bush' family is mostly all 'mexican' so the socalled help that was useless was simply politics Humorne .

Everything any country - or politician does is out of self interest. What's your point?

-------------------------------------------- and that makes THEM enemies of mine and enemies of my kids , Grandkids and other Americans and THATS THE POINT Humorne .

Number of hater people like you are the minorities here in America.
Majority of Americans and their grand kids don't have that kind of enemies.
I only hope that you do not teach your grandkids these kind of hatred against fellow human being. Future will be bad.

 

[Liquid Reigns]

I've been here for over two years and I debated all of them.
One thing they are all in common is getting rid of foreigners and bunch of racist people. With no understanding ZERO or clue how important are these immigrants in this country.

Do you not understand that Humorme wants immigration cut way down? He also doesn't want Muslims allowed in.

'm among those who literally hounded my legislative leaders - which is why I think my Senator designed a bill to cut immigration.

And I'm still on record that we should not let ANY Muslim into this country. They are at war with us and you would have to be a damn idiot to deny it.

 

[charwin95]

An interesting point. I just read in a Mexican blog that output is increasing due to well-trained returning to their work force. Some states have set up special programs for those returning from the USA.

Really? Link

Don't have one. It was on Mexico Daily News, a site I visit daily on Feedly.

In short you are lying again.

 

[Humorme]

first off , deport , deport and then deport some more . After that do as you like after no immigrant allowed in the USA Humorme

All of that deport language sounds good, but then again not. The problem is, in order to deport people, they must be brought to the attention of the federal authorities by virtue of probable cause.

You can't just deport someone; you have to suspect that they have committed a crime. Then that subjects them to arrest.

Then, even if you deport all those without papers, there is the flip side to the coin. If a man could have half his wishes, he'd just double his trouble.

BTW, what kind of problem are you trying to resolve?

What kind of problem Pismoe is trying to resolve?
Pismoe wants to convert the entire population of USA to be ALL white. With the help of Trump and their last hope.
He hates all minorities and there are several of them here like Pismoe.

It's disgusting.

You might be right, but I have a lot of questions for them. I did a thread with one of my more difficult questions.

I've debated the best that these guys have to offer and they don't make a lot of sense. They never say they want an all white America - they even condemn the white supremacists... but, what they do say is idiotic, at best.

The usual debating points is to challenge me to say I don't believe in enforcing the law. What? These people are all about enforcing the law to the extent that it helps deport foreigners, but seem oblivious to the fact that the 1965 Immigration laws were designed to dilute the white vote and increase the diversity of our population.

It's the most double minded horse hockey I've ever heard of. On their boards, if you demand an answer, they will shut down your account and tell you that you are persona non grata.

I'm trying to be open minded. Common sense says that you cannot flood the United States with foreigners, but we do it all bass ackward - like allowing more people in who are seeking citizenship and limiting the number of people we will allow to come in and work. The nutty wall idea - which inspires the POLICE STATE (far worse than what Orwell wrote about) is not an answer. But, I'm only looking for them to engage in civil discourse and explain their position... or do they really have one?

I've been here for over two years and I debated all of them.
One thing they are all in common is getting rid of foreigners and bunch of racist people. With no understanding ZERO or clue how important are these immigrants in this country.

At the end of the day, ALL the anti-immigrants have have is this line that it is illegal. It is a very weak argument given that the word immigration is not in the Constitution and for nearly a hundred years after the ratification of the Constitution, the states decided who they would invite into their country.

Unfortunately those who want to wage a war against people coming into the United States to work simply don't understand the economics of their own country. So threatened by the fact that some are willing to stand up against the National Socialist talking points, they will do what, in their minds, to keep this as a wedge issue.

 

[pismoe]

hey good mornin HMe. To tell you my reasons for disliking immigration of all types its mostly because i don't like the growth of the USA population in the USA or the acceptance of inferior cultures and people into the USA . I and my family and parents who came before me were doing fine long before the flood of third worlders into the USA so we have been doing fine for a long time . In closing , feck any more immigration of any and all types into the USA Humorme .

 

[Humorme]

hey good mornin HMe. To tell you my reasons for disliking immigration of all types its mostly because i don't like the growth of the USA population in the USA or the acceptance of inferior cultures and people into the USA . I and my family and parents who came before me were doing fine long before the flood of third worlders into the USA so we have been doing fine for a long time . In closing , feck any more immigration of any and all types into the USA Humorme .

I almost respect your position. Almost.

Those who obsess over immigration assume that I am automatically for flooding America with foreigners. The converse of that is true. I see nothing wrong with Congress cutting down on the number of people we naturalize.

America is a finite piece of property and can only hold so many people. We've exceeded that capacity. We have mega corporations like Monsanto taking over the food industry and forcing small farms to shut down; taxes and regulations are forcing people out of their homes and onto smaller and smaller plots of land.

What we do NOT have the legal / constitutional / de jure ability to do is to tell states who they can and cannot invite in as guests. We cannot tell employers who they can and cannot hire. What we do not need is the government big enough to protect us from ourselves. Having been in this for a couple of years I understand the arguments on both sides.
When those who obsess over immigration are faced with the facts, they want to belittle those who tell the truth. It doesn't make sense. Foreigners come here to take jobs willingly offered. If you don't want that to happen, you have to make sure the employer is incentivized to hire the American. You do this in three ways:

1) Incentivize the employers through substantial tax breaks to hire Americans via taking them off unemployment, welfare and giving the handicapped a job

2) Prison reform

3) Take people off welfare and the number ONE culprit is those who are on legal feel drugs required by Uncle Scam.

 

[charwin95]

I've been here for over two years and I debated all of them.
One thing they are all in common is getting rid of foreigners and bunch of racist people. With no understanding ZERO or clue how important are these immigrants in this country.

Do you not understand that Humorme wants immigration cut way down? He also doesn't want Muslims allowed in.

'm among those who literally hounded my legislative leaders - which is why I think my Senator designed a bill to cut immigration.

And I'm still on record that we should not let ANY Muslim into this country. They are at war with us and you would have to be a damn idiot to deny it.

In that case I take it back. I tried not to drink and post at the same time.

 

[Slyhunter]

Immigration should be shut down to what America needs not what the immigrant needs. No more immigrants who need welfare to subsist. No more immigrants who have kids so their kids can collect welfare and pay for their parents. You must have money or bring jobs with you to immigrate to America. At least that is how it should be.

Your petty bickering with one another is OT.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

At the end of the day, ALL the anti-immigrants have have is this line that it is illegal. It is a very weak argument given that the word immigration is not in the Constitution and for nearly a hundred years after the ratification of the Constitution, the states decided who they would invite into their country.

Unfortunately those who want to wage a war against people coming into the United States to work simply don't understand the economics of their own country. So threatened by the fact that some are willing to stand up against the National Socialist talking points, they will do what, in their minds, to keep this as a wedge issue.

Every Economist out there will tell you low skilled immigrants (legal or illegal) benefit nobody but themselves and their employer.

Improper Entry is a crime (a violation of law), Overstaying a visa, i.e. being here without authorization is not a crime, it is merely an infraction, as has been explained to you on every board you have been on and been banned from. Even on this forum you were told all this - Is it really "illegal?"

The federal govt has always regulated immigration, the states were required to provide ship manifests with names to the feds, people were denied entry way back then, prior to leaving their home nation they had to obtain authorization from their govt.

B.S. You've been trying to sell that swill all over the Internet. EVERY point you try to make has been refuted too many times for me to call on your nemesis to come here and give you the beatdown yet again.

Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT bring drama from other forums to USMB. You will NOT be told again. Refer to the Forum Rules if you need further clarification. If you are out to play a game, I will make sure I end it.

 

[Vastator]

Dammit! This is like walking into a movie as the credits start rolling...

 

[Unkotare]

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America is a finite piece of property and can only hold so many people. We've exceeded that capacity. .....

We have come nowhere near our capacity.

 

[cnelsen]

hey good mornin HMe. To tell you my reasons for disliking immigration of all types its mostly because i don't like the growth of the USA population in the USA or the acceptance of inferior cultures and people into the USA . I and my family and parents who came before me were doing fine long before the flood of third worlders into the USA so we have been doing fine for a long time . In closing , feck any more immigration of any and all types into the USA Humorme .

I almost respect your position. Almost.

Those who obsess over immigration assume that I am automatically for flooding America with foreigners. The converse of that is true. I see nothing wrong with Congress cutting down on the number of people we naturalize.

America is a finite piece of property and can only hold so many people. We've exceeded that capacity. We have mega corporations like Monsanto taking over the food industry and forcing small farms to shut down; taxes and regulations are forcing people out of their homes and onto smaller and smaller plots of land.

What we do NOT have the legal / constitutional / de jure ability to do is to tell states who they can and cannot invite in as guests. We cannot tell employers who they can and cannot hire. What we do not need is the government big enough to protect us from ourselves. Having been in this for a couple of years I understand the arguments on both sides.
When those who obsess over immigration are faced with the facts, they want to belittle those who tell the truth. It doesn't make sense. Foreigners come here to take jobs willingly offered. If you don't want that to happen, you have to make sure the employer is incentivized to hire the American. You do this in three ways:

1) Incentivize the employers through substantial tax breaks to hire Americans via taking them off unemployment, welfare and giving the handicapped a job

2) Prison reform

3) Take people off welfare and the number ONE culprit is those who are on legal feel drugs required by Uncle Scam.

Here's the very simple reason your "employment" argument is wrong:

Americans cannot compete directly with, say, Chinese for the simple reason it costs a lot more to be an American than a Chinese. A Chinese will underbid an American every time and still live like a king over there.

The reason we can't have employers hiring anyone in the world they want and importing those cheaper humans is because they are offering something to the foreigner they don't have to pay for, and that is of no value to the American: the desirability of America as a place to live. The employer doesn't pay for the benefit of the free education for the kids, the transparent judicial system, the clean air and water, the open spaces that he can offer the h1B worker, and it's of no value to the American because he already lives here.

Moreover, the employer socializes the costs of, say, educating the kiddies onto the very people whose wages he's is driving down--his neighbors. Not only that, every time he sells off a bit of America's desirability, he makes it less desirable for everyone. This is one of the several reasons immigration lawyers are the very bottom of the barrel as human beings.

 

[Unkotare]

..... it costs a lot more to be an American than a Chinese. A Chinese will underbid an American every time and still live like a king over there.....

Have you ever been to China? Recently? Say, Beijing or Shanghai?