Boycotts and browbeating of Israel: What’s changed since the last Gaza war?

[docmauser1]

The international community considers Kiryat Arba - and all other settlements - illegal under international law. They're a violation of the Geneva Convention for starters.

What "international law" and Geneva convention make palistanian settlements legal?

 

[Kimura]

The international community considers Kiryat Arba - and all other settlements - illegal under international law. They're a violation of the Geneva Convention for starters.

What "international law" and Geneva convention make palistanian settlements legal?

It's called the Fourth Geneva Convention. You can read it online, it's freely available.

 

[Lipush]

How much blood can you drip that Magen David in? I'm curious, how much is enough? Do we kill all Arabs or just the ones on your block? I bet you're a Yekke that's upset over some trivial shit.

You're one nasty hater.

Clearly....

I not the one wishing wholesale death on an entire population. I've read though some of the threads, you people are insane.

Wishing death on an entire population?

You have evidence of any of us wishing death of an entire population?

You're the insane one, dude. Really.

 

[Lipush]

Do you support the right of Palestinians for statehood? Btw, don't pull the Jew card with the bullshit. I'm an American Jew that finds the actions of Israel both nauseating and embarrassing considering what happened not so long ago. Grab a card and get in line, as if suffering is unique to Jews. I've studied Benny Morris, and historians on the Israeli right, I find it ******* embarrassing for all Jews.

You brought up the subject of Hebron, and I was addressing it. When Israel first captured Hebron in 1967, no Jews were permitted to live in that city, which was the birthplace of Judaism. So the Jews built a nearby settlement called Kiryat Arba. But the Arabs couldn't contain themselves and they killed 6 Yeshiva students in 1980, who were praying at the Tomb of Abraham. After that, to "pay back" the Arabs, so to speak, Jews were once again allowed to live in that ancient city. The Arabs could've had it all to themselves if they had just contained themselves. And Jews had always lived in Hebron until 1929, when the Arabs savagely killed 67 Jews and drove the rest out. Anyway, like I said before, the PA received 80% of Hebron, and that's more than enough.

Indeed. I don't need a history lesson, been there, done that. The international community considers Kiryat Arba - and all other settlements - illegal under international law. They're a violation of the Geneva Convention for starters.

Do you support settlements? This section of the message board reminds me of a Meir Kahane get together in Borough Park.

Oh yeah, how many Palestians were "savagely killed" under Plan Dalet? Since we're talking numbers, and quantifying death, I'll give you a chance to come up with a number.

Meir Kahane was a nutjob, no doubt about that, but he had the right to hold his opinions like you have the right to hold yours. And he was killed by those who pretend to stand for liberation and justice, just because his opinion wasn't the "meainstream".

So tell me more about insanity.

 

[Indeependent]

Kimura,
No goalpost have changed.
Focus...
You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime.
Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so.
Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

 

[Lipush]

So Kimura, how has life been in S'derot for the last few years?

Shitty....but still orders of magnitude better than if you find yourself in Gaza.

Yes, shelters for the people, siren systems, Iron Dome....

Those crazy Israelis do whatever they can to keep their own women and children alive.! must have learned that from Hamas...

Oh, wait

 

[docmauser1]

The international community considers Kiryat Arba - and all other settlements - illegal under international law. They're a violation of the Geneva Convention for starters.

What "international law" and Geneva convention make palistanian settlements legal?

It's called the Fourth Geneva Convention. You can read it online, it's freely available.

How so, if palistanian settlements aren't mentioned there?

 

[Lipush]

Shitty....but still orders of magnitude better than if you find yourself in Gaza.

You're a pretty bright guy and you have a real mastery of history when it comes to economics.
Why does your history suck so much when it comes to Israel/Aza?

How many Israelis have died from rocket attacks since 2001?

How many Gazans have died from Israeli military operations since 2001?

This is a fairly simply mathematical exercise which will demonstrate the disproportionate use of force.

Put in comparison that attempted brutal attacks between Israel and Hamas just weeks before this current escalation started, and do the math; Hamas was few times more brutal with its attempt at Harming Israelis, than Israel on Gaza civilians. Ever since the kidnapping and killing of the 3 Keddoshim, HaShem Yikom Damam, Gaza launched rockets on Israel everyday, few times a day, in attempt to damage and kill.

Only reason why it didn't occure was thanks to the defensive methods Israel has. The defense is which makes the difference.

But Hamas' first intention is to kill Israelis. While Israel's enemies are Hamas, who sadly uses their civilians as shields.

What you wackos are saying is that Israel should turn off its defensive systems so it will have more casualties, and the victim rates will be "balanced"

Yeah, we're the crazy ones, alright.

 

[Kimura]

Kimura,
No goalpost have changed.
Focus...
You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime.
Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so.
Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

 

[Indeependent]

Kimura,
No goalpost have changed.
Focus...
You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime.
Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so.
Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

So all those years of attempted murder of the citizens of S'derot matters not.
By the love, gotta love those tunnels.

 

[Kimura]

You're a pretty bright guy and you have a real mastery of history when it comes to economics.
Why does your history suck so much when it comes to Israel/Aza?

Put in comparison that attempted brutal attacks between Israel and Hamas just weeks before this current escalation started, and do the math; Hamas was few times more brutal with its attempt at Harming Israelis, than Israel on Gaza civilians. Ever since the kidnapping and killing of the 3 Keddoshim, HaShem Yikom Damam, Gaza launched rockets on Israel everyday, few times a day, in attempt to damage and kill.

Only reason why it didn't occure was thanks to the defensive methods Israel has. The defense is which makes the difference.

But Hamas' first intention is to kill Israelis. While Israel's enemies are Hamas, who sadly uses their civilians as shields.

What you wackos are saying is that Israel should turn off its defensive systems so it will have more casualties, and the victim rates will be "balanced"

Yeah, we're the crazy ones, alright.

Where did I say Israel should turn off its defensive system? Oh yeah, that's tight, I didn't say that.

I'm still waiting on those numbers.


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[Lipush]

I don't get it. Is it some weird mental thing people have, when they go to defend the enemy and turn against their own people?

 

[Lipush]

Where did I say Israel should turn off its defensive system? Oh yeah, that's tight, I didn't say that.

I'm still waiting on those numbers.


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Why wait? You can just check few threads down this board and get it on your own.

You know how do do some quick searching, right?

As for the above, I know what you say and didn't say, duh, I used sarcasm. Bad taste of sarcasm, but my point, I believe, was clear.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't get it. Is it some weird mental thing people have, when they go to defend the enemy and turn against their own people?

Kimura is one of those self hating Jews who is embarrassed by Jews kicking ass.

 

[Kimura]

Kimura,
No goalpost have changed.
Focus...
You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime.
Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so.
Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

So all those years of attempted murder of the citizens of S'derot matters not.
By the love, gotta love those tunnels.

Of course not, murder is murder and it's morally reprehensible. All that matters to Israel and it's supporters is the death of Israelis. Palestinians are murdered all the time, but the excuse choir coming out of Tel-Aviv seems to think they're not morally or legally culpable. The US is to blame as well. A US President with a spine could settle this in one phone call.

 

[Kimura]

I don't get it. Is it some weird mental thing people have, when they go to defend the enemy and turn against their own people?

Kimura is one of those self hating Jews who is embarrassed by Jews kicking ass.

Once you call someone a self-hating Jew, it says more about you than me.

See, this is why American Jews are slowing moving away from Israel, it's embarrassing and turning into a schizophrenic state.

 

[Lipush]

It does.

It says the head is conneted to the shoulders.

 

[Lipush]

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

So all those years of attempted murder of the citizens of S'derot matters not.
By the love, gotta love those tunnels.

Of course not, murder is murder and it's morally reprehensible. All that matters to Israel and it's supporters is the death of Israelis. Palestinians are murdered all the time, but the excuse choir coming out of Tel-Aviv seems to think they're not morally or legally culpable. The US is to blame as well. A US President with a spine could settle this in one phone call.

Israelis should matter to Israel first.

If the people of Gaza don't matter to Hamas, so what can Israel possibly do?

Hamas excecuted poor civilians who dared to protest against it. over 20 people were excecuted, for nothing but daring to think, and others were injured.

A field hospital Israel created for women and children was targeted by Hamas, who didn't want Gaza civilians to get treatment.

Hamas is to be blamed for this bloodshed.

 

[docmauser1]

Kimura, No goalpost have changed.
Focus... You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime. Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so. Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?

 

[Kimura]

So all those years of attempted murder of the citizens of S'derot matters not.
By the love, gotta love those tunnels.

Of course not, murder is murder and it's morally reprehensible. All that matters to Israel and it's supporters is the death of Israelis. Palestinians are murdered all the time, but the excuse choir coming out of Tel-Aviv seems to think they're not morally or legally culpable. The US is to blame as well. A US President with a spine could settle this in one phone call.

Israelis should matter to Israel first.

If the people of Gaza don't matter to Hamas, so what can Israel possibly do?

Hamas excecuted poor civilians who dared to protest against it. over 20 people were excecuted, for nothing but daring to think, and others were injured.

A field hospital Israel created for women and children was targeted by Hamas, who didn't want Gaza civilians to get treatment.

Hamas is to be blamed for this bloodshed.

Hamas is the organic manifestation of desperation. The Palestinians were quite passive for many years, even after everything that went down 1948.

What's their alternative? The Palestinian Authority, what a spineless and incompetent bunch. The IDF leveled El-Wafa Hospital even though they knew their were no weapons inside. Setting up a field hospital is the least they could do.