Boycotts and browbeating of Israel: What’s changed since the last Gaza war?

Kimura, No goalpost have changed.
Focus... You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime. Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so. Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?
You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.
Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?

So all Gazans are murdering SOBs? It would be much easier if they all died or were put in concentration camps. Someone call Moshe Feiglin, let's get this project operational. :tank:

We can call it the Warsaw Ghetto Part Deux.
 
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Of course not, murder is murder and it's morally reprehensible. All that matters to Israel and it's supporters is the death of Israelis. Palestinians are murdered all the time, but the excuse choir coming out of Tel-Aviv seems to think they're not morally or legally culpable. The US is to blame as well. A US President with a spine could settle this in one phone call.

Israelis should matter to Israel first.

If the people of Gaza don't matter to Hamas, so what can Israel possibly do?

Hamas excecuted poor civilians who dared to protest against it. over 20 people were excecuted, for nothing but daring to think, and others were injured.

A field hospital Israel created for women and children was targeted by Hamas, who didn't want Gaza civilians to get treatment.

Hamas is to be blamed for this bloodshed.

Hamas is the organic manifestation of desperation. The Palestinians were quite passive for many years, even after everything that went down 1948.

What's their alternative? The Palestinian Authority, what a spineless and incompetent bunch. The IDF leveled El-Wafa Hospital even though they knew their were no weapons inside. Setting up a field hospital is the least they could do.

What's their alternative???

Accept Israel's existance, and abadon the way of terror and death.

That'll be a good starting point!
 
Kimura,
No goalpost have changed.
Focus...
You are stating that attempted murder is not a crime.
Or are you stating that if the governing authority does not stop repeated attempts at murder then nobody else has the authority to do so.
Gee, what happens when it's the GOVERNING authority that is attempting murder?

You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.

I've watched CNN and I find them fair and balanced. They interview both Israelis and Hamas. They show alot of Gaza's carnage. I guess you don't like it that Israel's side of the story is told as well.
 
Israelis should matter to Israel first.

If the people of Gaza don't matter to Hamas, so what can Israel possibly do?

Hamas excecuted poor civilians who dared to protest against it. over 20 people were excecuted, for nothing but daring to think, and others were injured.

A field hospital Israel created for women and children was targeted by Hamas, who didn't want Gaza civilians to get treatment.

Hamas is to be blamed for this bloodshed.

Hamas is the organic manifestation of desperation. The Palestinians were quite passive for many years, even after everything that went down 1948.

What's their alternative? The Palestinian Authority, what a spineless and incompetent bunch. The IDF leveled El-Wafa Hospital even though they knew their were no weapons inside. Setting up a field hospital is the least they could do.

What's their alternative???

Accept Israel's existance, and abadon the way of terror and death.

That'll be a good starting point!

I agree. Aziz Duwaik said they'd be willing to admit to accept Israel's right exist, but they want multiple party talks, which should include the EU as a broker. I'm starting to think the two-state solution isn't going to happen. That shipped has sailed.

Like I said, the settlements are actually a form of national suicide in the end. I can't even fathom how the Israeli government can support crazy people.
 
I don't get it. Is it some weird mental thing people have, when they go to defend the enemy and turn against their own people?

Kimura is one of those self hating Jews who is embarrassed by Jews kicking ass.

Once you call someone a self-hating Jew, it says more about you than me.

See, this is why American Jews are slowing moving away from Israel, it's embarrassing and turning into a schizophrenic state.

Actually, it's the opposite.
American Jews are supporting Israel more than ever.
Money is pouring into settlements and yeshivahs like never before.
Especially evident is the lack of coverage on BBC and CNN.
 
It does.

It says the head is conneted to the shoulders.

There needs to be something similar to Godwin's law but for Jews who call other Jews self-hating Jews.

Why?

Is that not true?

Don't you know there is an ugly phenomenon of self hating Jews?

It's ridiculous.

As a Jew, if I call Israel on their incessant and pedantic bullshit, that makes me a self-hating Jew?
 
You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.
Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?

So all Gazans are murdering SOBs? It would be much easier if they all died or were put in concentration camps. Someone call Moshe Feiglin, let's get this project operational. :tank:

We can call it the Warsaw Ghetto Part Deux.

So you approve of military personel wearing non-military personel?
 
Kimura is one of those self hating Jews who is embarrassed by Jews kicking ass.

Once you call someone a self-hating Jew, it says more about you than me.

See, this is why American Jews are slowing moving away from Israel, it's embarrassing and turning into a schizophrenic state.

Actually, it's the opposite.
American Jews are supporting Israel more than ever.
Money is pouring into settlements and yeshivahs like never before.
Especially evident is the lack of coverage on BBC and CNN.

Only the Orthodox contingent, but that's about it.
 
There needs to be something similar to Godwin's law but for Jews who call other Jews self-hating Jews.

Why?

Is that not true?

Don't you know there is an ugly phenomenon of self hating Jews?

It's ridiculous.

As a Jew, if I call Israel on their incessant and pedantic bullshit, that makes me a self-hating Jew?

No...
It's the fact that when it comes to economics you view everything in context.
When it comes to Israel, you don't.
 
Once you call someone a self-hating Jew, it says more about you than me.

See, this is why American Jews are slowing moving away from Israel, it's embarrassing and turning into a schizophrenic state.

Actually, it's the opposite.
American Jews are supporting Israel more than ever.
Money is pouring into settlements and yeshivahs like never before.
Especially evident is the lack of coverage on BBC and CNN.

Only the Orthodox contingent, but that's about it.

Hardly. I have friends who work on Wall Street and they know where the money is going.
Many secular Jews lost many of their relatives in the Holocaust and they ain't taking shit anymore.
 
Why?

Is that not true?

Don't you know there is an ugly phenomenon of self hating Jews?

It's ridiculous.

As a Jew, if I call Israel on their incessant and pedantic bullshit, that makes me a self-hating Jew?

No...
It's the fact that when it comes to economics you view everything in context.
When it comes to Israel, you don't.

It gets more difficult keep anything relating to Israel in context as time goes on. I was visiting my family in Tel-Aviv last year when it dawned on me.
 
Actually, it's the opposite.
American Jews are supporting Israel more than ever.
Money is pouring into settlements and yeshivahs like never before.
Especially evident is the lack of coverage on BBC and CNN.

Only the Orthodox contingent, but that's about it.

Hardly. I have friends who work on Wall Street and they know where the money is going.
Many secular Jews lost many of their relatives in the Holocaust and they ain't taking shit anymore.

I also work on Wall Street, Jews aren't a monolithic group. I lost family in the Holocaust (great aunts and uncles), but that doesn't justify the way Palestinians are treated. That card simply can't be used, it doesn't provide any moral justifications at all. Quite the contrary.
 
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You're right, what happens when a government commits murder or engages in attempted murder? According to Fox News and CNN, if you're an Israeli, it's self-defense, if you're a Gazan, you're murdering SOB.The moral equivalence game in this country is quite disturbing and embarrassing.
Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?
So all Gazans are murdering SOBs?
Quite a lot of them! And all elected too! Others are the electorate, indeed.
It would be much easier if they all died or were put in concentration camps. Someone call Moshe Feiglin, let's get this project operational.
Why call anyone, if hamass runs and operates their self-established occupational camp?
We can call it the Warsaw Ghetto Part Deux.
Since palistanians are living a lie, let's call it a lame attempt to plunder somebody else's history, of course.
 
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Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?
So all Gazans are murdering SOBs?
Quite a lot of them! And all elected too! Others are the electorate, indeed.
It would be much easier if they all died or were put in concentration camps. Someone call Moshe Feiglin, let's get this project operational.
Why call anyone, if hamass runs and operates their self-established occupational camp?
We can call it the Warsaw Ghetto Part Deux.
Since palistanians are living a lie, let's call it a lame attempt to plunder somebody else's history, of course.[/size]


Mauser, Mauser, misinforming like Goebbels? Goebbels, Mauser, what's in a name? Of Couse!
 
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Does it mean gazabadian murdering sobs want to be portrayed mother Theresas?
So all Gazans are murdering SOBs?
Quite a lot of them! And all elected too! Others are the electorate, indeed.
It would be much easier if they all died or were put in concentration camps. Someone call Moshe Feiglin, let's get this project operational.
Why call anyone, if hamass runs and operates their self-established occupational camp?
We can call it the Warsaw Ghetto Part Deux.
Since palistanians are living a lie, let's call it a lame attempt to plunder somebody else's history, of course.

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Only the Orthodox contingent, but that's about it.

Hardly. I have friends who work on Wall Street and they know where the money is going.
Many secular Jews lost many of their relatives in the Holocaust and they ain't taking shit anymore.

I also work on Wall Street, Jews aren't a monolithic group. I lost family in the Holocaust (great aunts and uncles), but that doesn't justify the way Palestinians are treated. That card simply can't be used, it doesn't provide any moral justifications at all. Quite the contrary.

That card is never used. Israelis/Jews don't use the Holocaust to justify anything , even though we hear the opposite.
In fact, I always see anti zionists bringing up the Holocaust, but almost never the other war around.
 
Of course not, murder is murder and it's morally reprehensible. All that matters to Israel and it's supporters is the death of Israelis. Palestinians are murdered all the time, but the excuse choir coming out of Tel-Aviv seems to think they're not morally or legally culpable. The US is to blame as well. A US President with a spine could settle this in one phone call.

Israelis should matter to Israel first.

If the people of Gaza don't matter to Hamas, so what can Israel possibly do?

Hamas excecuted poor civilians who dared to protest against it. over 20 people were excecuted, for nothing but daring to think, and others were injured.

A field hospital Israel created for women and children was targeted by Hamas, who didn't want Gaza civilians to get treatment.

Hamas is to be blamed for this bloodshed.

Hamas is the organic manifestation of desperation. The Palestinians were quite passive for many years, even after everything that went down 1948.

That's a crock of apologist camel crap.
Hamas is just the latest in a long line of Palestinian "organic manifestations of desperation" ... a desperation which has been fostered and fed by decades of failed leadership and the exhortations of those who would keep them as a knife at Israel's throat.
 
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