Boycotts and browbeating of Israel: What’s changed since the last Gaza war?

[Challenger]

That article addresses nothing in my post but having read it led me to believe you did not. It is strongly pro-Israel and critical of Hamas, the Palestinians and those Brits who have abandoned Israel as a matter of convenience.

My point is Idiot, Israels allies and a growing percentage of Jews living in those countries, are starting to turn their back and say enough of this butchery.A messy ICC investigation may cause problems for both sides, but it will if it happens inflict far more damage on Israel.

When the evidence is presented to the ICC they will feel obliged to find Israel innocent of all charges and demand the arrest of every hamas member for crimes against humanity, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide. Even die hard pro Palestinians are now saying that hamas has overstepped the mark in siting their rocket launch pads in civilian areas and surrounding them with children. If the UN even attempts to censure Israel then it will be destroyed from within by the many delegates leaving and tearing up their UN charters in disgust. No other nation can afford to have the UN mooching of it as the USA can, and one word from America would see the delegates running for cover as the arrest warrants were being printed.

Think you got that a tad wrong there, old boy, allow me:

"When the evidence is presented to the ICC they will feel obliged to find Hamas innocent of all charges and demand the arrest of every Zionist Israeli for crimes against humanity, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide....If the UN even attempts to censure Israel then one word from America would see the delegates running for cover and it will be destroyed from within by the many delegates leaving and tearing up their UN charters in disgust.

That's better, more accurate.

 

[Phoenall]

CIAR is such a splendid example of course!!
Since ******* when AIPAC is a terrorist organization?

How much blood can you drip that Magen David in? I'm curious, how much is enough? Do we kill all Arabs or just the ones on your block? I bet you're a Yekke that's upset over some trivial shit.

How many more calls for another holocaust of the Jews will it take before the world sees reason and executes ISLAMONAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATING TERRORIST SCUM like you. When will YOU be happy when every Jew has been rounded up and gassed, or has been forcibly evicted on slave ships bound for the arab states for then to deal with. I wonder if you will explain to the millions of Americans who are dying of heart disease that expelling all the Jews was the right thing to do for America and the world. Then explain how flooding the nation with millions of semi literate Islamic terrorists was an even better thing to do. Take it from someone who has seen this happen in the UK first hand that it is the road to ruin and widespread violence.

How about we just kill all ANTI SEMITIC RACIST JEW HATERS and make the world a better place to live

 

[Phoenall]

Found this interesting. It doesn't "prove" anything in particular, but it demonstrates the world's social media reaction to Gaza being attacked, as opposed to the events which led up to it.

Watch the Israeli-Palestinian conflict unfold online ? The Stream

You know what I found interesting the sudden drop in social media messages when the murder of the Palestinian boy was reported. As if the worlds social media was not concerned with some Palestinian dead beat enough to post.

Looks like your link has backfired on you and you now feel stupid.

 

[Phoenall]

They say truth will out...

Israeli police official refutes claim that Hamas kidnapped Israeli teens

Not what your link says at all is it, it does say that hamas may have had no idea the kidnap was to happen because of its policy of having cells with no contact to even the hamas leadership. The police spokesman said that it could have been a "lone cell" attached to hamas.

From your link

Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2


Any worthwhile comment on your abject failure to prove anything but your inability to read

 

[P F Tinmore]

They say truth will out...

Israeli police official refutes claim that Hamas kidnapped Israeli teens

Not what your link says at all is it, it does say that hamas may have had no idea the kidnap was to happen because of its policy of having cells with no contact to even the hamas leadership. The police spokesman said that it could have been a "lone cell" attached to hamas.

From your link

Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2


Any worthwhile comment on your abject failure to prove anything but your inability to read

Indeed, it was the work of individuals not by the command of Hamas.

The attack did not match Hamas's MO.

 

[Hossfly]

How is that anti-Israel? He pointed out what everyone else with an IQ over room temperature seems to realize. As the demographics continue to shift, the Israelis will continue to build walls, restrict population movements, etc. The country will become a literal apartheid state, despite the fact the country already houses an entire population in deplorable and inhumane conditions.

The West Bank has already been de-facto absorbed by Israel, so the two-state solution seems even more tenuous. Bibi gave a speech at Ariel University where he referred to the West Bank as being Israel. Ironically, by the Israeli government supporting these settlements the country has embarked on a path of national suicide.

Nope, nobody does, matter of fact Israel is the last state ever risk becoming apartheid.

- MORE walls? we build the walls to keep the animals out, that is the purpose of ANY wall.
- Last time I checked I'm not allowed to go to Gaza, is that because Israel restrict my movement?!
- nothing else? I mean, you sure got some other evidence right?
-Israel is the most democratic state in the entire M.E.. securing liberty, wealth, justice and unique support to minorities unlike ANYWHERE else in the world.
- Peace treaty with Jordan, not Palestinians.
-http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hamas-says-it-would-never-accept-two-state-solution-wont-give-up-one-inch-of-land-339682 - 80% of the Palestinians support ONE PALESTINIAN STATE SOLUTION, this is why Hamas/Fatah won 44%/41% in Gaza, not to mention the past refusals of the stupid Palestinians.

8.Ironically, by the Israeli government supporting these settlements the country has embarked on a path of national suicide.

-National suicide? wow, Israel support ISRAELI DEVELOPMENT OVER ISRAELI TERRITORY. - It doesn't mean the friendly WB Pals suppose to suffer for having neighbors like you present it, and it doesn't mean this is even a Palestinian land..
Who the hell you think you are to tell us how to rule OUR state in OUR land?

Seriously, how much does Israel pay you to post this nonsense?

About the same as what you get.

 

[Hossfly]

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, but the international community sees it differently.

Go ask an Arab in Hebron if he/she feels their have equal treatment under the law.




And?



Most Palestinians aren't excited by the creation of the state of Israel, I never met one that was, whether they be Christian or Muslim. Hamas is simply the organic manifestation of what happens when passivity is longer an option.

Again, Aziz Duweik said Hamas would be willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist.



The Palestinians, like the Israelis, have a right to their own land. They're a legitimate people and are entitled to statehood.



I don't give a shit what you do, I don't live there, but you could ease up with the deer in the headlights routine. I also find it ironic your avatar is a Magen David drenched in blood.

80% of Hebron is under PA control. Besides, Hebron is the birthplace of Judaism, where our fathers and mothers are buried. Jews can live anywhere in the world but not in the place where Judaism was born? Doesn't make sense to me.

Do you support the right of Palestinians for statehood? Btw, don't pull the Jew card with the bullshit. I'm an American Jew that finds the actions of Israel both nauseating and embarrassing considering what happened not so long ago. Grab a card and get in line, as if suffering is unique to Jews. I've studied Benny Morris, and historians on the Israeli right, I find it ******* embarrassing for all Jews.

I take it you did your stint in the IDF? Good boy!

 

[Daniyel]

CIAR is such a splendid example of course!!
Since ******* when AIPAC is a terrorist organization?

How much blood can you drip that Magen David in? I'm curious, how much is enough? Do we kill all Arabs or just the ones on your block? I bet you're a Yekke that's upset over some trivial shit.

Racist Stereotype - apes considered more socially advanced over people like you.
The moment primitives like you wouldn't try to bully us no blood would be shed, we are not the easy targets anymore but you cant stand the fact we are stiill alive and actually doing way better than you so now you complain your colleagues fail to kill us again?

 

[Challenger]

They say truth will out...

Israeli police official refutes claim that Hamas kidnapped Israeli teens

Not what your link says at all is it, it does say that hamas may have had no idea the kidnap was to happen because of its policy of having cells with no contact to even the hamas leadership. The police spokesman said that it could have been a "lone cell" attached to hamas.

From your link

Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2


Any worthwhile comment on your abject failure to prove anything but your inability to read

You forgot this bit, "Seems to contradict the line from Netanyahu government. 2/2"

and

"Further, Inspector Rosenfeld told Donnison that if Hamas’ leadership had ordered the kidnapping, “they'd have known about it in advance.”"

So it seems Hamas had nothing to do with this kidnap, but that wasn't going to affect Nathanyahoo's big plan was it? The Zionists send in the IDF to the West bank to attack, sorry, "investigate":

"During the course of Israel’s investigation, some 400 Palestinians were arrested and up to 10 others were killed. Among those detained were Aziz Duwaik, the speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council and West Bank-based member of Hamas; and Mahmoud al-Khatib, a Hamas legislator was also reportedly abducted by the IDF during a dawn raid in the city of Bethlehem.

Israel's crackdown in the West Bank instigated Hamas to begin firing rockets into Israel—a move that quickly escalated the conflict.

In early July, several members or activists connected to Hamas were killed, including a 14-year-old boy, which led the group to intensified their rocket attacks. Although there were no resulting deaths, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) began successive airstrikes on the Gaza Strip.

“Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay,” Netanyahu said in reference to the kidnapping. However, Inspector Rosenfeld’s statements, along with a number of reports concerning the identities of known police suspects, seem to indicate that Hamas leadership was not involved in the vicious crime.

So without any firm evidence, Nathanyahoo decided to attack Hamas in the West bank provoking the rocket fire and escalationg the conflict into the current act of genocide.

Zionist Israel was defending itself? Yeah, right, whatever.

 

[pbel]

Nope, nobody does, matter of fact Israel is the last state ever risk becoming apartheid.

- MORE walls? we build the walls to keep the animals out, that is the purpose of ANY wall.
- Last time I checked I'm not allowed to go to Gaza, is that because Israel restrict my movement?!
- nothing else? I mean, you sure got some other evidence right?
-Israel is the most democratic state in the entire M.E.. securing liberty, wealth, justice and unique support to minorities unlike ANYWHERE else in the world.
- Peace treaty with Jordan, not Palestinians.
-http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hamas-says-it-would-never-accept-two-state-solution-wont-give-up-one-inch-of-land-339682 - 80% of the Palestinians support ONE PALESTINIAN STATE SOLUTION, this is why Hamas/Fatah won 44%/41% in Gaza, not to mention the past refusals of the stupid Palestinians.
-National suicide? wow, Israel support ISRAELI DEVELOPMENT OVER ISRAELI TERRITORY. - It doesn't mean the friendly WB Pals suppose to suffer for having neighbors like you present it, and it doesn't mean this is even a Palestinian land..
Who the hell you think you are to tell us how to rule OUR state in OUR land?

Seriously, how much does Israel pay you to post this nonsense?

About the same as what you get.

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Israel Hires Internet Soldiers to Penetrate American Forums, Chatrooms
Submitted by James_Madison_Lives on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:47
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by James_Madison_Lives aka Voodoo101

File under "cat out of the bag." "Israel hires Internet soldiers," Israeli students and demobilized soldiers get paid to pretend they are just regular folks and leave pro-Israel comments online. Israeli Foreign Ministry Deputy Elan Shturman is quoted from the Israeli Occupation Magazine saying:


Quote:


“Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis,” he said. “They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.”


Counterpunch's Jonathan Cooke in "Israel's Internet Wars" describes:

 

[Challenger]

Found this interesting. It doesn't "prove" anything in particular, but it demonstrates the world's social media reaction to Gaza being attacked, as opposed to the events which led up to it.

Watch the Israeli-Palestinian conflict unfold online ? The Stream

You know what I found interesting the sudden drop in social media messages when the murder of the Palestinian boy was reported. As if the worlds social media was not concerned with some Palestinian dead beat enough to post.

Looks like your link has backfired on you and you now feel stupid.

Boy do you have trouble with reading and comprehension...

 

[Hossfly]

Seriously, how much does Israel pay you to post this nonsense?

About the same as what you get.

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Israel Hires Internet Soldiers to Penetrate American Forums, Chatrooms
Submitted by James_Madison_Lives on Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:47
in
Daily Paul Liberty Forum



by James_Madison_Lives aka Voodoo101

File under "cat out of the bag." "Israel hires Internet soldiers," Israeli students and demobilized soldiers get paid to pretend they are just regular folks and leave pro-Israel comments online. Israeli Foreign Ministry Deputy Elan Shturman is quoted from the Israeli Occupation Magazine saying:


Quote:


“Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the hasbara department of the Israeli foreign ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis,” he said. “They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the foreign ministry developed.”


Counterpunch's Jonathan Cooke in "Israel's Internet Wars" describes:

Ya caught me Peebles!!!

 

[pbel]

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Cooke at Counterpunch also writes that "About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel."

Deputy Minister Shturman says in Israeli Occupation Magazine:


Quote:


Our objective is to penetrate into the world in which these discussions are taking place, where reports and videos are published – the blogs, the social networks, the news websites of all sizes. We will introduce a pro-Israeli voice into those places.

 

[Phoenall]

They say truth will out...

Israeli police official refutes claim that Hamas kidnapped Israeli teens

Not what your link says at all is it, it does say that hamas may have had no idea the kidnap was to happen because of its policy of having cells with no contact to even the hamas leadership. The police spokesman said that it could have been a "lone cell" attached to hamas.

From your link

Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2


Any worthwhile comment on your abject failure to prove anything but your inability to read

You forgot this bit, "Seems to contradict the line from Netanyahu government. 2/2"

and

"Further, Inspector Rosenfeld told Donnison that if Hamas’ leadership had ordered the kidnapping, “they'd have known about it in advance.”"

So it seems Hamas had nothing to do with this kidnap, but that wasn't going to affect Nathanyahoo's big plan was it? The Zionists send in the IDF to the West bank to attack, sorry, "investigate":

"During the course of Israel’s investigation, some 400 Palestinians were arrested and up to 10 others were killed. Among those detained were Aziz Duwaik, the speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council and West Bank-based member of Hamas; and Mahmoud al-Khatib, a Hamas legislator was also reportedly abducted by the IDF during a dawn raid in the city of Bethlehem.

Israel's crackdown in the West Bank instigated Hamas to begin firing rockets into Israel—a move that quickly escalated the conflict.

In early July, several members or activists connected to Hamas were killed, including a 14-year-old boy, which led the group to intensified their rocket attacks. Although there were no resulting deaths, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) began successive airstrikes on the Gaza Strip.

“Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay,” Netanyahu said in reference to the kidnapping. However, Inspector Rosenfeld’s statements, along with a number of reports concerning the identities of known police suspects, seem to indicate that Hamas leadership was not involved in the vicious crime.

So without any firm evidence, Nathanyahoo decided to attack Hamas in the West bank provoking the rocket fire and escalationg the conflict into the current act of genocide.

Zionist Israel was defending itself? Yeah, right, whatever.

Not one of the Zionists I know sent any IDF into gaza, so caught out in another LIE. You RACIST NAZI JEW HATERS will realise soon enough that not all Zionists live in Israel and are not all Jews. Now back to the report hamas has said that there are thousands of self governing cells that make decisions on their own to attack Israel, and hamas is unaware of their actions. In this case hamas issued a report less than two months prior to the murders on how it could kidnap Jewish children and use them to force Israel to give up prisoners. This was giving the terrorist cells the green light to kidnap Israeli children and use them as hostages. This backfired on the ISLAMONAZI TERRORISTS as 2000 were killed for nothing.

 

[Phoenall]

Found this interesting. It doesn't "prove" anything in particular, but it demonstrates the world's social media reaction to Gaza being attacked, as opposed to the events which led up to it.

Watch the Israeli-Palestinian conflict unfold online ? The Stream

You know what I found interesting the sudden drop in social media messages when the murder of the Palestinian boy was reported. As if the worlds social media was not concerned with some Palestinian dead beat enough to post.

Looks like your link has backfired on you and you now feel stupid.

Boy do you have trouble with reading and comprehension...

Nope I see what is there and the pretty colours all but disappeared when the headline was the Palestinian boys murder. It very nearly filled the screen when it was hamas and its terrorism. Read into that what you want.............

 

[Lipush]

CIAR is such a splendid example of course!!
Since ******* when AIPAC is a terrorist organization?

How much blood can you drip that Magen David in? I'm curious, how much is enough? Do we kill all Arabs or just the ones on your block? I bet you're a Yekke that's upset over some trivial shit.

You're one nasty hater.

 

[Phoenall]

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Cooke at Counterpunch also writes that "About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel."

Deputy Minister Shturman says in Israeli Occupation Magazine:


Quote:


Our objective is to penetrate into the world in which these discussions are taking place, where reports and videos are published – the blogs, the social networks, the news websites of all sizes. We will introduce a pro-Israeli voice into those places.

Is that what it said on the piece of paper the imam handed you, how much does he pay you for your ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

 

[pbel]

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Cooke at Counterpunch also writes that "About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel."

Deputy Minister Shturman says in Israeli Occupation Magazine:


Quote:


Our objective is to penetrate into the world in which these discussions are taking place, where reports and videos are published – the blogs, the social networks, the news websites of all sizes. We will introduce a pro-Israeli voice into those places.

Is that what it said on the piece of paper the imam handed you, how much does he pay you for your ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA

Why is it that the truth so upsets you that you start cutting Paper Dolls before you reply?


PS

Are you one of them?[/B]

 

[SAYIT]

When did Britain lose faith in Israel? - Telegraph

That article addresses nothing in my post but having read it led me to believe you did not. It is strongly pro-Israel and critical of Hamas, the Palestinians and those Brits who have abandoned Israel as a matter of convenience.

My point is Idiot, Israels allies and a growing percentage of Jews living in those countries, are starting to turn their back and say enough of this butchery.A messy ICC investigation may cause problems for both sides, but it will if it happens inflict far more damage on Israel.

That article says nothing of the kind and neither it nor you addressed the points in the post you responded to. I pasted it below in case you want to try again:

Q: What is different this time?
A: In fact, the blowback from this Israeli action has been muted compared to past incursions.
The difference?
Proof that Hamas uses UN "schools" as armories - perhaps with UN approval - and actual footage from that Indian TV crew of Hamas firing rockets from a hotel sidewalk. You will note that crew left Gaza BEFORE releasing the story. Knowing the Palestinian's "peaceful" nature one can imagine their fate had they not done so.
(posted in response to claim that world reaction is greater than ever before)

 

[Challenger]

You know what I found interesting the sudden drop in social media messages when the murder of the Palestinian boy was reported. As if the worlds social media was not concerned with some Palestinian dead beat enough to post.

Looks like your link has backfired on you and you now feel stupid.

Boy do you have trouble with reading and comprehension...

Nope I see what is there and the pretty colours all but disappeared when the headline was the Palestinian boys murder. It very nearly filled the screen when it was hamas and its terrorism. Read into that what you want.............

...visual acuity seems to be a issue with you as well, never mind over-thinking a problem.

Here's some good advice for you Phoney, "You must learn to stop overthinking. It’s the silent enemy that will slowly kill you, chipping away at every shred of happiness you come across. Overthinking will keep you from yourself and those around you as you bask in a pool of hatred and self-loathing."