Book I highly recommend to all posters

[Robert W]

I have debated the author and have his book he sent to me. He credits me in his foreword.
Why you should read it.
1. He examines the true function of any form of Government.
2. He frees your brain from assumptions most of us make all the time.
3. He was a helicopter pilot for the Army and served in Vietnam.
4. He tested all of his premises in vigorous debates with dozens if not more people he encountered on the WWW.
Questions we all should ask.
1. What makes any government legitimate?
2. Why do you accept the present government or perhaps just a government by the left?

There's No Government Like NO Government: the nonvoter's manifesto​

by Jackney Sneeb (Author)

It is still available on Amazon.com

 

[Donald H]

I have debated the author and have his book he sent to me. He credits me in his foreword.
Why you should read it.
1. He examines the true function of any form of Government.
2. He frees your brain from assumptions most of us make all the time.
3. He was a helicopter pilot for the Army and served in Vietnam.
4. He tested all of his premises in vigorous debates with dozens if not more people he encountered on the WWW.
Questions we all should ask.
1. What makes any government legitimate?
2. Why do you accept the present government or perhaps just a government by the left?

There's No Government Like NO Government: the nonvoter's manifesto​

by Jackney Sneeb (Author)

It is still available on Amazon.com

The real power is with the military, but it can't assert its power without government's direction.

Does his book offer a solution? What then if a smooth talker such as Hitler gains the power to convince the people?
Do the people elect a government to kill the smooth talker?

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

No government means complete anarchy. A free-for-all where no matter what you do, there are no laws to stop you acting on your impulses. The dominant force would be armed groups terrorizing their local areas creating victim after victim after victim.
Millions would starve, not having the land and ability to actually farm for food and the roving gangs would simply kill them and take their produce. Theft murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, all are on the table.

 

[Donald H]

No government means complete anarchy. A free-for-all where no matter what you do, there are no laws to stop you acting on your impulses. The dominant force would be armed groups terrorizing their local areas creating victim after victim after victim.
Millions would starve, not having the land and ability to actually farm for food and the roving gangs would simply kill them and take their produce. Theft murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, all are on the table.

Not so! There are many examples of the military forming a dictatorship as government. (military junta)
I think that end result could become America's and much more likely than a democratic election in which the ruling party is at high risk of losing! .

This can go nowhere unless the OP answers a few of my questions. That doesn't seem possible.

 

[Robert W]

The real power is with the military, but it can't assert its power without government's direction.

Does his book offer a solution? What then if a smooth talker such as Hitler gains the power to convince the people?
Do the people elect a government to kill the smooth talker?

I have to go over his book again in order to give you honest and correct answers.
Let's start in the powers of the US system. As we all notice, when Trump issues orders, courts have stepped in trying to stop him. Even congress encounters courts when sued. So, we might see the court as the ruler. Judges that impact against the president and congress are not elected but appointed. It is one hell of a mess to be frank about it.

 

[Robert W]

No government means complete anarchy. A free-for-all where no matter what you do, there are no laws to stop you acting on your impulses. The dominant force would be armed groups terrorizing their local areas creating victim after victim after victim.
Millions would starve, not having the land and ability to actually farm for food and the roving gangs would simply kill them and take their produce. Theft murder, rape, incest, pedophilia, all are on the table.

Me and others argued that point with the author, but he clearly defeated all of us who tried what you claim.

As one example from memory is take you, Is the sole reason you are not a criminal is you fear cops or would you be insulted if any here said your only way to not be a criminal is to fear the law?

 

[Robert W]

What then if a smooth talker such as Hitler gains the power to convince the people?

This is possible when one believes in Government. Such people ensure as you say by smooth talking to take over.

 

[Mr Natural]

We humanoids haven’t yet evolved to the point of not needing a government of some sort.

 

[Donald H]

I have to go over his book again in order to give you honest and correct answers.

I can't imagine any answers from you when you're stuck with no answer to the most basic and fundamental question!

Let's start in the powers of the US system. As we all notice, when Trump issues orders, courts have stepped in trying to stop him. Even congress encounters courts when sued. So, we might see the court as the ruler. Judges that impact against the president and congress are not elected but appointed. It is one hell of a mess to be frank about it.

You're trying to suggest anarchy.

Why is that so hard to say?

Maybe because you know that a strong military wouldn't allow it?

Read the fukn book and then try again.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Not so! There are many examples of the military forming a dictatorship as government. (military junta)
I think that end result could become America's and much more likely than a democratic election in which the ruling party is at high risk of losing! .

This can go nowhere unless the OP answers a few of my questions. That doesn't seem possible.

The topic I read was interpreted by me as addressing "socialism," not Theocracies, Military Juntas, Monarchies, Despotic Leaders, or Oligarchies.
If by military junta, you think just because Trump sent troops to LA without a request by the governor, he is trying to create a military junta, you are seriously wrong.
Even though the governor didn't request federal support against the rioters, LA's police chief requested federal government assistance as he said the rioters had gotten out of control and he needed help. The LA police chief was there on the ground and knew the situation and the Constitution, as well as the Insurrection Act allow for federal troops to intervene to suppress violence, if necessary, requested or not. Always remember, "federal laws" outweigh state's governors and can't state constitutions cannot conflict with federal law.
Personally, what I see, when it comes to the present-day Democrats is a party hellbent on ending actual Democracy. If the public votes in their opponent, they promote protesting, violence and disobedience. A Democracy allows for political opposition and the opportunity to vote for the candidate of your choice and if your candidate loses, you simply try to do better, honestly, on the next election period. A Democracy isn't a nation that only allows one party to run. If that's your idea of a legitimate government, you might want to pack your bags and travel to any one of several nations that forbid opposing parties the opportunity to win elections.
North Korea. Their leader gets 100% of the votes in elections.
China. Their party always ensures their party wins, no matter what.
Cuba. They are good at allowing only one party. Opposition is arrested.
Venezuela. Opposition is either arrested or killed by death squads.
Pick your Islamic nation. You can only be a Muslim and the more oppressive the better.
Myanmar. An actual Military Junta. He's your only choice.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Not so! There are many examples of the military forming a dictatorship as government. (military junta)
I think that end result could become America's and much more likely than a democratic election in which the ruling party is at high risk of losing! .

This can go nowhere unless the OP answers a few of my questions. That doesn't seem possible.

The so-called Democrat Party is the current one that would actually like to see an end to Democracy and a one-party only government Socialist State.

 

[Donald H]

Me and others argued that point with the author, but he clearly defeated all of us who tried what you claim.

As one example from memory is take you, Is the sole reason you are not a criminal is you fear cops or would you be insulted if any here said your only way to not be a criminal is to fear the law?

Your schtick that you're forgetting is that the only thing stopping an American from being a criminal is their fear of the god.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Me and others argued that point with the author, but he clearly defeated all of us who tried what you claim.

As one example from memory is take you, Is the sole reason you are not a criminal is you fear cops or would you be insulted if any here said your only way to not be a criminal is to fear the law?

The reasons I am "not" a criminal are, not because I fear law enforcement but for the following reasons:
As I would hate it if someone took any of my property. I feel the same way about others, so I don't steal.
I was a medic for 23 years and don't believe in harming/killing people, except to save my own life. So, I don't harm or kill others.
People work hard in their jobs for companies that provide products for sale. I have absolutely no problem paying for the products, recognizing that those workers need pay for them and their family. So, there again, I don't steal.
I don't speed recklessly or drive while intoxicated on the streets and highways, as it is dangerous to others and myself.
Despite being an Atheist, I do believe in that golden rule of "do unto others as you would have THEM do unto you. In other words, behave kindly to others, regardless of their race, creed, sex, or sexual orientation.

 

[Robert W]

The reasons I am "not" a criminal are, not because I fear law enforcement but for the following reasons:
As I would hate it if someone took any of my property. I feel the same way about others, so I don't steal.
I was a medic for 23 years and don't believe in harming/killing people, except to save my own life. So, I don't harm or kill others.
People work hard in their jobs for companies that provide products for sale. I have absolutely no problem paying for the products, recognizing that those workers need pay for them and their family. So, there again, I don't steal.
I don't speed recklessly or drive while intoxicated on the streets and highways, as it is dangerous to others and myself.
Despite being an Atheist, I do believe in that golden rule of "do unto others as you would have THEM do unto you. In other words, behave kindly to others, regardless of their race, creed, sex, or sexual orientation.

Some call that anarchy. They are right of course. I believe that it is almost unanimous that the nation thinks and acts like you do.

 

[Donald H]

Some call that anarchy. They are right of course. I believe that it is almost unanimous that the nation thinks and acts like you do.

So you found the title of the book appealing because you have this hard-on for government!
What a fkn joke Bob!

Now you're going to have to read the book!
What a disappointing ass-clown you've made of yourself this time Bob!

 

[Robert W]

So you found the title of the book appealing because you have this hard-on for government!
What a fkn joke Bob!

Read my opening again. I was upset at his claims for a long time. I debated him. But he finally persuaded me he was actually correct.

 

[1srelluc]

The guy is tee-totally full of shit.

Oh I suspect you could do without much in the way of government in certain sparsely populated areas but that would be about it in today's world.

At one time my ancestors only real form of government that meant anything in their isolated valley was the local militia defending homesteads from N/A attacks.

 

[Robert W]

Your schtick that you're forgetting is that the only thing stopping an American from being a criminal is their fear of the god.

You mispresent my views.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

As one example from memory is take you, Is the sole reason you are not a criminal is you fear cops or would you be insulted if any here said your only way to not be a criminal is to fear the law?

Slippery Logic

It is dishonest to personalize it like that. Whoever you put in the second person is worried about those in the third person and would accuse them of being good only out of fear of punishment.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We humanoids haven’t yet evolved to the point of not needing a government of some sort.

Libretardedism

Why would that be an advance in evolution?