Boasberg’s Judicial Coup Update: Judge Gives President Trump Deadline of Tuesday for Compliance

[Skylar]

Yep. And that's the bottom line, ain't it.

These leftards would sell their own mothers for a nickel's worth of publicity.

It really isn't. The judges ruling in no way stops Trump from deporting under INA in Title 8. Says who? Says the judge.

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

But remember, y'all don't know what the **** you're talking about. You're both aggressively ignorant people who refuse to read the ruling.....despite offering us panty shitting hysterics about it. You look at the judge clearly and plainly saying that his orders do NOT prevent their deportation under Title 8........as the judge saying they aren't allowed to leave the country.

No, dips. What the judge is saying is that Trump can't deport them without a judicial hearing under Title 50. Which is what Trump is invoking in his attempt to expand his power. Again, the relevant passage from the actual ruling.

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

All you have to do is read. But both of you refuse.

Wallow in ignorance. It won't matter.

 

[scruffy]

Again, read the ruling next time. It will save you from so much embarrassment.

We're discussing the president's authority, not a worthless judicial diatribe.

THE JUDGE ORDERED THE PLANE TO TURN BACK.

President Trump told him to go **** himself.

Let's see that idiot Boasberg hold the President in contempt.

I dare the stupid bastard. I double dare him.

You know he won't, because at the end of the day he's a coward and he's powerless.

Roberts better tell him to stand down. He's in big trouble already.

 

[Skylar]

We're discussing the president's authority, not a worthless judicial diatribe.

We're discussing the president's authority under title 50.

You're only insisting that the ACTUAL law being cited by the Trump administration and being addressed by the judge now are 'worthless', because you didn't know what the **** you were talking about. When you were citing Title 8, you couldn't stop babbling about the law.

Problem is....Trump's not using his Title 8 authority. He's trying to expand that authority under Title 50.

NO ONE disputes that Trump has the authority to deport under Title 8. Not me. Not the judge. Not the judge's order. No one. It was and is a useless MAGA strawman.

What the case is about is Trump's authority under Title 50, the law that Trump's administration themselves cited as the basis of their deportation orders. And the judge found that the individuals that Trump removed from the country were due a judicial hearing to determine if Title 50 applied to them.

That's literally it. All this panty shitting......for that.

This is why NO ONE cites you as a legal authority, Scruffy. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Leo123]

So Trump had every right to dep

It really isn't. The judges ruling in no way stops Trump from deporting under INA in Title 8. Says who? Says the judge.

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

But remember, y'all don't know what the **** you're talking about. You're both aggressively ignorant people who refuse to read the ruling.....despite offering us panty shitting hysterics about it. You look at the judge clearly and plainly saying that his orders do NOT prevent their deportation under Title 8........as the judge saying they aren't allowed to leave the country.

No, dips. What the judge is saying is that Trump can't deport them without a judicial hearing under Title 50. Which is what Trump is invoking in his attempt to expand his power. Again, the relevant passage from the actual ruling.

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

All you have to do is read. But both of you refuse.

Wallow in ignorance. It won't matter.

So, Trump was correct in deporting this alien trash. They are part of an invasion of U.S. territory. They are also criminals who have committed more crimes on top of illegally crashing our border.

As far as the age of the Alien Enemies Act there is precedence for using centuries old legislation as when they were using the Espionage Act of 1917 against Trump. The Democrat controlled legislature levied 31 charges against Trump under that act.

 

[Skylar]

So Trump had every right to dep

So, Trump was correct in deporting this alien trash.

Not under Title 50 without a judicial hearing he wasn't. That's what this is all about.

Trump has authority to deport these individuals under title 8. The judge acknowledges this on page 2 of his 37 page ruling.

But Trump doesn't want to use his Title 8 authority. Trump wants to expand his authority under title 50 so he can invoke war powers without a declared war. And designate illegals as part of an invading army of some hostile nation or government WITHOUT a declared war.

All the judge did was determine that these individuals deserve a judicial hearing to see if Title 50 applies to them.

That's it.

And yet MAGA is losing its ******* shit, babbling about 'coups', and 'lawfare', 'impeachments' and 'election interference' and 'legislating from the bench', with Trump pushing pseudo-legal conspiracy theories that the judges who rule against him are guilty of sedition or treason. With treason punishable by death.

MAGA panty shitting is exhausting. Just ******* appeal like any sane person would.

 

[elektra]

Such a ridiculous argument

If a person is caught entering the USA illegally they are denied at the border, no trial.

If A person entered illegally and is found 50ft inside the USA, they are sent back, no trial

If a person is FOUND 59 MILES illegally inside the USA, NO TRIAL

Now, why do these illegal aliens require trials to be sent home?

 

[Skylar]

Such a ridiculous argument

If a person is caught entering the USA illegally they are denied at the border, no trial.

If A person entered illegally and is found 50ft inside the USA, they are sent back, no trial

If a person is FOUND 59 MILES illegally inside the USA, NO TRIAL

Now, why do these illegal aliens require trials to be sent home?

None of that has a thing to do with anything being discussed.

And why do illegals get court hearings before they're sent home? Its in the law.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Again, read the ruling next time. It will save you from so much embarrassment.

It hasn't done that for you j/k "buddy"

 

[elektra]

None of that has a thing to do with anything being discussed.

And why do illegals get court hearings before they're sent home? Its in the law.

Illegals don't get hearings at the border or near the border

 

[Skylar]

It hasn't done that for you j/k "buddy"

Laughing....still trying to pretend you've never used the word 'deportation', buddy?

Again, for perhaps the 10th time, no one contests that Trump has the authority to deport under Title 8. Not the judge. Not the judge's ruling. But Trump isn't citing Title 8. He's citing Title 50s Alien and Sedition Act.

You won't read the law. You don't know the difference between the INA and the Alien and Sedition Act, nor do you care to learn. You refuse to read the ruling. You're an aggressively ignorant person who delights in not knowing shit.

And?

 

[Skylar]

Illegals don't get hearings at the border or near the border

That's irrelevant to what we're discussing. As these individuals weren't turned back at the border.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Laughing....still trying to pretend you've never used the word 'deportation', buddy?

You've done it for me

Again, for perhaps the 10th time, no one contests that Trump has the authority to deport under Title 8. Not the judge. Not the judge's ruling. But Trump isn't citing Title 8. He's citing Title 50s Alien and Sedition Act.

You won't read the law. You don't know the difference between the INA and the Alien and Sedition Act, nor do you care to learn. You refuse to read the ruling. You're an aggressively ignorant person who delights in not knowing shit.

"nope"

 

[Skylar]

You've done it for me

Laughing....keep pretending that you've never used the word 'deportation'. It makes me giggle.

"nope"

Oh, silly. You know I have the actual ruling right here. You know it obliterates your entire argument. Why do you keep making me embarrass you like this?

Here's the judge acknowledging Trump's authority under Title 8, obliterating your entire argument that the judge said they couldn't leave the country.

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

And here's the judge acknowledging that Trump is applying Title 50, not Title 8, as the basis of his deportation order:

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

Remember, just because you don't know what the **** you're talking about doesn't mean that I'm similarly afflicted.

 

[forkup]

Such a ridiculous argument

If a person is caught entering the USA illegally they are denied at the border, no trial.

If A person entered illegally and is found 50ft inside the USA, they are sent back, no trial

If a person is FOUND 59 MILES illegally inside the USA, NO TRIAL

Now, why do these illegal aliens require trials to be sent home?

They aren't "illegal aliens". They availed themselves to the procedure to gain at least (temporary) access to the United States. This grants them rights under US law. This is why Trump is invoking war time powers to deport.

This judge in order to see of this violates their rights is trying to get information of the circumstances. The Trump administration is unwilling to provide that information.


I can not imagine a more important question than wether or not the executive branch is subject to review of the judicial one. Something that is fundamental to the concept of having 3 co-equal branches of government.


The fact that you guys seem to be happy with the executive branch claiming they are beyond this review is arguing for an autocracy.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Laughing....keep pretending that you've never used the word 'deportation'. It makes me giggle.

ok but just for the official record

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country...

Oh, silly. You know I have the actual ruling right here. You know it obliterates your entire argument. Why do you keep making me embarrass you like this?

lol...my entire argument consisted of a one word quote from you "nope" hence the quote marks [notice the parentheses], so of course you obliterated it, so did I, it was a simple minded quote.

Here's the judge acknowledging Trump's authority under Title 8, obliterating your entire argument that the judge said they couldn't leave the country.

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

And here's the judge acknowledging that Trump is applying Title 50, not Title 8, as the basis of his deportation order:

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

all that for what?

Remember, just because you don't know what the **** you're talking about doesn't mean that I'm similarly afflicted.

well OK but

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country...

 

[Skylar]

lol...my entire argument consisted of a one word quote from you "nope"[notice the parentheses], so of course you obliterated it, so did I, it was a simple minded quote.

all that for what?

well OK but

Laughing......all that just to have your entire argument obliterated once again by two direct quotes of a ruling you refuse to read.

Here's the judge acknowledging Trump's authority under Title 8, obliterating your entire argument that the judge said they couldn't leave the country.

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

And here's the judge acknowledging that Trump is applying Title 50, not Title 8, as the basis of his deportation order:

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

So much for your claim that the judge said they weren't allowed to leave the country.

Try again

 

[elektra]

That's irrelevant to what we're discussing. As these individuals weren't turned back at the border.

Your argument is they can be deported at and close to the border but they can't be deported if we catch them 563 miles away. Which law is that?

 

[elektra]

They aren't "illegal aliens". They availed themselves to the procedure to gain at least (temporary) access to the United States.

No, they are illegal, they did not pass through U.S. customs with a passport.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Laughing......all that just to have your entire argument obliterated once again by two direct quotes of a ruling you refuse to read.

"nope"

Here's the judge acknowledging Trump's authority under Title 8, obliterating your entire argument that the judge said they couldn't leave the country.

That can only be inferred from my post if you believe the judge to be a white liberal see: V for proof

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country...

as you/everyone can plainly see I don't even mention the judge, you do.

Here's the judge acknowledging Trump's authority under Title 8, obliterating your entire argument that the judge said they couldn't leave the country.

so he's affirming those folk could leave the country?

"Neither Order required the Government to release a single individual from its
custody. Neither Order prevented the Government from apprehending anyone pursuant to the
just-published Proclamation. And neither Order prevented the Government from deporting
anyone — including Plaintiffs — through authorities other than the Proclamation, such as the
INA. Indeed, as the President last month designated Tren de Aragua a Foreign Terrorist
Organization, members of the gang are already inadmissible to (and thus deportable from) the
United States under the INA. See 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)."

And here's the judge acknowledging that Trump is applying Title 50, not Title 8, as the basis of his deportation order:

TRANSLATION: "They just can't leave the country."

"They justifiably feared that, in a matter of hours, they might be removed from the country pursuant not
to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, but instead the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a law
last invoked in the wake of Pearl Harbor as the nation was preparing for a world war. That Act
authorizes the President to summarily remove “natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects” of a
“hostile nation or government” when there is “declared war” against it or when it has
“perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States” an “invasion or
predatory incursion.” 50 U.S.C. § 21.

TRANSLATION: Trump got it right

So much for your claim that the judge said they weren't allowed to leave the country.

Lets take a look at that claim then shall we:

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country...

 

[Skylar]

Your argument is they can be deported at and close to the border but they can't be deported if we catch them 563 miles away. Which law is that?

You don't seem to be replying to anything I'm saying. If you believe that's my argument, quote me.

You'll find you're citing your imagination