Boasberg’s Judicial Coup Update: Judge Gives President Trump Deadline of Tuesday for Compliance

[Skylar]

Are you really this stupid?



I already linked you to the current code.

I can't force you to read it.

And your personal opinion on what the law means is irrelevant. Your personal opinions on the powers granted to the president under that law outside of wartime do not have legal relevance. You're literally nobody in this scenario.

The judicial power resides with the federal judiciary. Their interpretations of the law are legally authoritative. And the federal judiciary, as of today, has found that Trump does not have the power under the Alien and Sedition Act to simply disappear people without due process or judicial review outside of war time.

Is this really it? Just you......insisting that your personal opinion is legally authoritative?

If so, that was easy.

 

[IM2]

MAGA is fueled by a fairly constant need to be victims. Thus, a ruling they don't agree with isn't simply a legal setback. Its a 'coup', or some act of 'sedition', or even 'treason'.

They're melodramatic like that.

True. They are even going to get more melodramatic if they let trump think he doesn't have to follow rulings. They will be living in a dictatorship and they are too stupid to see this is what Trump is doing. Just as long as he does mean things to non whites they will think it's great. But they don't realize that he will come for them too.

 

[IM2]

And your personal opinion on what the law means is irrelevant. Your personal opinions on the powers granted to the president under that law outside of wartime do not have legal relevance. You're literally nobody in this scenario.

The judicial power resides with the federal judiciary. Their interpretations of the law are legally authoritative. And the federal judiciary, as of today, has found that Trump does not have the power under the Alien and Sedition Act to simply disappear people without due process or judicial review outside of war time.

Is this really it? Just you......insisting that your personal opinion is legally authoritative?

If so, that was easy.

Right wingers seem to believe their opinion on everything is authoritative.

 

[Skylar]

True. They are even going to get more melodramatic if they let trump think he doesn't have to follow rulings. They will be living in a dictatorship and they are too stupid to see this is what Trump is doing. Just as long as he does mean things to non whites they will think it's great. But they don't realize that he will come for them too.

The entire MAGA movement is centered around victimhood. Its a very 'head-down-ass-up' political philosophy. Where MAGA is constantly being fucked by somebody. And the only thing that changes is whose dick is in their ass today.

Apparently, now their bull is U.S. District Judge James Boasberg.

 

[Skylar]

Right wingers seem to believe their opinion on everything is authoritative.

Right Wingers tend toward an authoritarian world view, with power centered in some father figure. In this case, Trump. They are pushing for a unitary presidency where Trump can imbue himself with the judicial power to interpret the law and the constitution.....and has whatever constitutional authority he believes he does.

Alas, that's not how any of this works. And when you try to explain even the concept of the judicial power being a power reserved exclusively for the judiciary.........they meltdown.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Laughing....so nothing. No one, including me, is saying that these folks can't be deported.

A specious [not to mention technical and semantical] claim, since the accusation is that white liberals are claiming it is illegal for those folk to leave the country.

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country...

 

[Skylar]

A specious claim, since the accusation is that white liberals are claiming it is illegal for those folk to leave the country.

Yawning.....nope. They can absolutely be deported.......with due process and judicial review.

As happens thousands of times a day.

Try again. This time reading for comprehension.

 

[scruffy]

Laughing....so nothing. No one, including me, is saying that these folks can't be deported.

As they absolutely can be. With judicial review and due process. It happens every day.

READ the ******* code, dumbass.

Here it is again, lazy-ass leftard.

Pay attention.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227&num=0&edition=prelim

See where it says "terrorist activities"?

Read: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml...-section1182)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

Find sections B (I) (IV), (V), (VI), and (VII).

Now find Clause vi just below. Read again:

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1189%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1189)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

Here is the law:

"
The Secretary is authorized to designate an organization as a foreign terrorist organization in accordance with this subsection if the Secretary finds that-

(A) the organization is a foreign organization;

(B) the organization engages in terrorist activity (as defined in section 1182(a)(3)(B) of this title or terrorism (as defined in section 2656f(d)(2) of title 22), or retains the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism) <a href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml...rt&amp;num=0&amp;edition=prelim#1189_1_target" name="1189_1">1</a>; and

(C) the terrorist activity or terrorism of the organization threatens the security of United States nationals or the national security of the United States"

Any individual who is a member of a designated terrorist organization can be immediately deported without due process.

That is the law.

 

[Skylar]

READ the ******* code, dumbass.

Here it is again, lazy-ass leftard.

Pay attention.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227&num=0&edition=prelim

See where it says "terrorist activities"?

Read: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8 section:1182 editionrelim) OR (granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1182)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

Find sections B (I) (IV), (V), (VI), and (VII).

Now find Clause vi just below. Read again:

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1189%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1189)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim

Here is the law:

"
The Secretary is authorized to designate an organization as a foreign terrorist organization in accordance with this subsection if the Secretary finds that-

(A) the organization is a foreign organization;

(B) the organization engages in terrorist activity (as defined in section 1182(a)(3)(B) of this title or terrorism (as defined in section 2656f(d)(2) of title 22), or retains the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism) <a href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8 section:1189 editionrelim) OR (granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1189)&amp;f=treesort&amp;num=0&amp;edition=prelim#1189_1_target" name="1189_1">1</a>; and

(C) the terrorist activity or terrorism of the organization threatens the security of United States nationals or the national security of the United States"

Any individual who is a member of a designated terrorist organization can be immediately deported without due process.

That is the law.

Again, you're offering us your personal opinion as to what the law is 'supposed' to mean. And then insisting that your personal opinion is legally authoritative.

Nope. Your personal opinion is still irrelevant.

The federal judiciary, as of today, has found that under the Alien and Sedition Act, cited by Trump as granting him the authority, he does not have the power to disappear people to foreign prisons outside of wartime.

As the federal judiciary has the judicial power, their interpretations of the law are authoritative. Yours are not.

If Trump does not agree with the ruling, he can appeal to a higher court. That's how the balance of power works.

 

[scruffy]

And your personal opinion on what the law means is irrelevant. Your personal opinions on the powers granted to the president under that law outside of wartime do not have legal relevance. You're literally nobody in this scenario.

The judicial power resides with the federal judiciary. Their interpretations of the law are legally authoritative. And the federal judiciary, as of today, has found that Trump does not have the power under the Alien and Sedition Act to simply disappear people without due process or judicial review outside of war time.

Is this really it? Just you......insisting that your personal opinion is legally authoritative?

If so, that was easy.

READ the US Code, whiney leftard moron.

Don't address me again till you've read it.

******* leftards are goddamn annoying, aren't they?

 

[Skylar]

READ the US Code, whiney leftard moron.

Again, your personal opinion on how the US Code is supposed to be interpreted is legally irrelevant. You're nobody in this process.

You insisting that your interpretation of the US Code is authoritative is still as meaningless as it was the first time you offered us the claim.

The judicial power resides with the judiciary. Their interpretations are authoritative. I can't make you understand how checks and balances work, or how the judicial power works.

But your understanding is irrelevant as your are. As your personal opinion plays no role in any legal interpretation of the Alien and Sedition Act.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

awning.....nope. They can absolutely be deported.......with due process and judicial review.
As happens thousands of times a day.

"nope"

Try again.

"nope" That seems to be your M.O., as "it happens a thousand times" a thread

This time reading for comprehension.

hmmmmm

hmmm...leave it to white liberals to get it exactly wrong, they are now arguing that it is illegal for these folks to leave the country

 

[scruffy]

Again, your personal opinion on how the US Code is supposed to be interpreted is legally irrelevant. You're nobody in this process.

You insisting that your interpretation of the US Code is authoritative is still as meaningless as it was the first time you offered us the claim.

The judicial power resides with the judiciary. Their interpretations are authoritative. I can't make you understand how checks and balances work, or how the judicial power works.

But your understanding is irrelevant as your are. As your personal opinion plays no role in any legal interpretation of the Alien and Sedition Act.

Your inability to comprehend simple written English is part of what makes you an ignorant shit for brains leftard.

You might convince other gullible leftards with your bullshit, but you're not going to convince anyone who can read.

 

[Skylar]

"nope"

Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

“The Order did not prevent Defendants from removing anyone — to include members of the class — through other immigration authorities such as the [Immigration and Nationality Act]. Indeed, as previously mentioned, those affiliated with Tren de Aragua were all already deportable under that statute as members of an [Foreign Terrorist Organization],

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5210593-trump-boasberg-alien-enemies-act-deportation-venezuelans/

Which is exactly what I've said. Nothing prevents Trump from using due process and judicial review to deport these folks.

So I ask again, who says that they can't be deported? So far its you citing your imagination on a topic you know nothing about.

Try again.

 

[Concerned American]

What were they convicted of? What trial did they have for those crimes they were charged with? What were they even charged with?

After listening to this, I find it strange that you weren't clamoring for speedy charging and trials for the J6 rioters. Many were in jail for over a year waiting to be fully charged and tried. Here, you've got criminal illegal aliens that have been taken to a third party country because their home country wouldn't accept them and you're up in arms. Hmmm.

 

[Skylar]

Your inability to comprehend simple written English is part of what makes you an ignorant shit for brains leftard.

You might convince other gullible leftards with your bullshit, but you're not going to convince anyone who can read.

Or.....your personal opinion of what the US Code is 'supposed' to mean is legally irrelevant. And the federal judiciary's interpretation of the law is legally authoritative.

And this is the finding of the federal judiciary, as of today:

"“Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on another equally fundamental theory: before they may be deported, they are entitled to individualized hearings to determine whether the Act applies to them at all,” Boasberg wrote."

You disagree. So? You're nobody. No one is citing your personal opinions of any US Code in any ruling, brief or order.

Sorry, Buddy. But your personal opinion of what the law is supposed to mean is irrelevant. The judiciary's interpretation is authoritative.

 

[scruffy]

Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

“The Order did not prevent Defendants from removing anyone — to include members of the class — through other immigration authorities such as the [Immigration and Nationality Act]. Indeed, as previously mentioned, those affiliated with Tren de Aragua were all already deportable under that statute as members of an [Foreign Terrorist Organization],

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5210593-trump-boasberg-alien-enemies-act-deportation-venezuelans/

Which is exactly what I've said. Nothing prevents Trump from using due process and judicial review to deport these folks.

So I ask again, who says that they can't be deported? So far its you citing your imagination on a topic you know nothing about.

Try again.

Leftard finally figured it out, now he's backtracking.

This is why leftards lost the presidency and both houses of Congress.

Leftards are way too stupid to run the country

 

[Skylar]

After listening to this, I find it strange that you weren't clamoring for speedy charging and trials for the J6 rioters. Many were in jail for over a year waiting to be fully charged and tried. Here, you've got criminal illegal aliens that have been taken to a third party country because their home country wouldn't accept them and you're up in arms. Hmmm.

So you want to change the topic to January 6th defendants?

Feel free to start your own thread on the matter. I'll stick with the actual topic of the thread: Judge Boasberg's ruling.

 

[scruffy]

Or.....your personal opinion of what the US Code is 'supposed' to mean is legally irrelevant. And the federal judiciary's interpretation of the law is legally authoritative.

And this is the finding of the federal judiciary, as of today:

"“Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on another equally fundamental theory: before they may be deported, they are entitled to individualized hearings to determine whether the Act applies to them at all,” Boasberg wrote."

You disagree. So? You're nobody. No one is citing your personal opinions of any US Code in any ruling, brief or order.

Sorry, Buddy. But your personal opinion of what the law is supposed to mean is irrelevant. The judiciary's interpretation is authoritative.

That's NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS, dumbass leftard.

Damn you people are stupid.

And you think we are too, which is not the case.

 

[scruffy]

they are entitled to individualized hearings to determine whether the Act applies to them at all

This ^^^ is called LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH.

There is no such provision in the law.

In fact, the law says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE