BLM Vs McCarthyism

[Dragonlady]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

If you have no idea what BLM really is, or what they really represent, how do you know they're not concerned with the lives of innocents blacks. Perhaps if you had the first clue about the movement, you might not make such pointless and condescending comments.

Find out what your talking about before opening your mouth.

 

[MaryL]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

If you have no idea what BLM really is, or what they really represent, how do you know they're not concerned with the lives of innocents blacks. Perhaps if you had the first clue about the movement, you might not make such pointless and condescending comments.

Find out what your talking about before opening your mouth.

Thank you, that was really helpful. What I meant was : BLM seems to have a rather deceitful and hidden agenda that I doubt YOU even know. All I see is the superficial and obvious attack on police and Whites. I seriously doubt BLM really gives a damn about black lives anymore than Senator J. McCarthy cared about America. Please, Demagogues are Demagogues.

 

[badger2]

Importantly, it was a (post destruction [italics]) phenomenon that appeared, religious graffiti 'Christ is coming,' in conjunction with BLM phenomenon. This is the call for the coming of justice. The media's multiple invocations of MLK reinforces a well-known tendency of the black genome-psyche to overspiritualize the socius. Underscoring that BLM is Marxist-communist, the destruction of the Object comes into view, Derrida continues:

'Now, as we know, only the reference to the religious world allows one to explain the autonomy of the ideological, and thus its proper efficacy, its incorporation in apparatuses that are endowed with not only an apparent autonomy but a sort of automaticity that not fortuitously recalls the headstrongness of the wooden table. By rendering an account of the 'mystical' character and the secret (das Geheimnisvolle) of the commodity-form, we have been introduced into fetishism and the ideological. Without being reducible one to the other, they share a common condition. Now, says Capital, only the religious analogy, only the 'misty realm of religion' (die Nebelregion der religiosen Welt) can allow one to understand the production and fetishizing autonomization of this form. The necessity of turning toward this analogy is presented by Marx as a consequence of the 'phantasmagoric form' whose genesis he has just analyzed. If the objective relation between things (which we have called [commerce between commodities [italics]) is indeed a phantasmagoric form of the social relation between men, (then [it.]) we must have recourse to the (only analogy possible [it.]), that of religion: 'It is nothing but the definite social relation between men themselves which assumes here, for them, the fantastic form of a relation between things.' Consequence: ('In order, therefore, to find an analogy [My emphasis: Um daher eine Analogie zu finden] ) we must take flight [fluchten again or already] into the misty realm of religion. Needless to say, the stakes are enormous in the relation of fetishism to the ideological and the religious....We cannot get involved here in this general question of fetishization. In work to come, it will no doubt be necessary to link it to the question of phantomatic spectrality. Despite the infinite opening of all these borders, one might perhaps attempt to define what is at stake here:
1.)Fetishist phantomaticity in general and its place in Capital. Even before commodity value makes its stage entrance and before the choreography of the wooden table, Marx had defined the residual product of labor as phantomatic objectivity (gespenstige Gegenstaendlichkeit).'
(Derrida, Specters of Marx, 1993)

BLM's deliberate 'artwork' (broken shop windows, etc.) was the depiction of the destroyed 'object' that stands between the passion twixt the black male and the symbol for the superego, the police. The graffiti is thus not surprising.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

If you have no idea what BLM really is, or what they really represent, how do you know they're not concerned with the lives of innocents blacks. Perhaps if you had the first clue about the movement, you might not make such pointless and condescending comments.

Find out what your talking about before opening your mouth.

Thank you, that was really helpful. What I meant was : BLM seems to have a rather deceitful and hidden agenda that I doubt YOU even know. All I see is the superficial and obvious attack on police and Whites. I seriously doubt BLM really gives a damn about black lives anymore than Senator J. McCarthy cared about America. Please, Demagogues are Demagogues.

Just because you say so, is that it? Do you feel threatened? Do you feel unsafe? Is your world about to come to a tragic end? Mine is doing just fine and it's getting better. If lives of blacks walking down a street becomes safer so does mine. If equality is reached, life becomes better for everyone. I spent over 20 years in the US Military with the idea that I made a difference for every walk of life in America. And I don't feel the need to stop now. I support Black Lives Matter (BLM), I support Blue Lives Matter. Hell if they do exist, I would equally support Green Lives Matter because all lives matter. You only want to make White Lives Matter and to hell with all the rest because you got yours.

 

[badger2]

We agree with OP's 'deceitful.' We were surprised to notice the gender involved between two males, one black, the other a cop:

'In the figure of its sensuous materiality, the proper body of this phantomatic objectivity takes form, hardens, erects, or petrifies itself, (crystalizes [italics]) out of a slack and undifferentiated substance, it institutes itself out of an amorphous residue: 'Let us now look at the residue of the products of labour. There is nothing left of them in each case but the same phantom-like objectivity; they are merely congealed quantities. of homogeneous human labour….as crystals of this social substance, which is common to them all, they are values -- commodity values.....On this 'phantomatic objectivity' (gespenstige Gegenstaendlichkeit), cf. Samuel Weber (Unwrapping Balzac, p. 75) who, between Balzac and Marx, insists quite rightly on the feminine character of the commodity-chimera. There is in fact, more than one sign of this. But how to stabilize the sex of a fetish? Does it not pass from one sex to the other? Is it not this movement of passage, whatever may be its stases?
(Derrida, Specters of Marx, 1993)

So, the gazing upon BLM's destruction in American cities is the eye-pain of a feminine pornography.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

BLM is 100% bullshit. It is entirely the product of Democratic politicians exploiting the insecurities of black Americans for their own political gain. BLM was just a tiny fringe movement until Obama went to Ferguson and falsely accused the cop who shot Michael Brown of murder. Until Obama endorsed BLM riots and violence, it was largely ignored by most black people, but with Obama's endorsement it has grown to be a huge propaganda package about nonexistent systemic racism, white privilege etc. Even now Obama continues to encourage the rampaging mobs as they loot and burn because he believes this violence and the fear it engenders will help Democrats in the election.

When you consider that in the death of George Floyd, which gave rise to this violence, there is no evidence that any of the police actions were influenced by racism, yet the all the mobs want to talk about is racism. Clearly, it's all a huge fraud.

 

[badger2]

If eye-pain is the flip-side of fascism, we implicate Antifa as BLM accomplice.

 

[badger2]

This happened several nights ago in the state capitol:

26 Jun 2020 White Men Light Black Teenage Girl's Face on Fire in Wisconsin

White Men Light Black Teenage Girl's Face on Fire in Wisconsin

It's been one month since Minneapolis police officers killed George Floyd, and in some ways, it feels like the Black Lives Matter movement is receding from the headlines. A horrifying attack on a Black teenage girl is enough to remind us that racially motivated violence has gone nowhere...

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Many don't believe the story (see Comments). On that night, we personally noticed Boogaloo's presence on the periphery as the line of protesters approached their usual spot on John Nolen. If truly a Boogaloo target, the message to BLM and Antifa would mean that it knows about the 'feminine chimera.'

 

[badger2]

We'll excerpt a McCarthyesque Chodorov trajectory in order to help expose the violence and pathology of BLM, becuase Trump is correct: "treason, sedition and insurrection." When the prisoners kneel and genuflect as they did in Bethesda, American individualism has been duped by the marxist-opportunists (with links to Venezuela).

The Commie Menace

The mid-1950s represent a watershed period for America's political consciousness. Across the spectrum, from Left to Right, anticommunism was taking hold. Within the fledgling conservative movement, Frank Chodorov and a few others tried to stem the tide of the armored cold warriors. The issue, they said, was what it had always been: the need to support individualism and to oppose statism. Communism -- in both its international and domestic forms -- did represent a threat, but increasing state power and diminishing individual freedom in the process of opposing communism were not answers. In fact, increasing state power to oppose communism was, ironically, one way to bring communism to America through the back door.
....
In the August 1954 issue of The Freeman, William F. Buckley pointed out the enormous fissure developing in conservative ranks around the question, "What are we going to do about the Soviet Union?" There were, on the one hand, the 'containment conservatives," concerned about communism but most concerned about the internal dangers of huge national defense budgets, conscription, etc. This was Chodorov's position. Then there were the "interventionist conservatives," who advocated a program of militant action aimed at the destruction of the Soviets as quickly as possible. Buckley prophetically concluded that "the issue is there, and ultimately it will separate us."
....
He reminded his readers that in any war, hot or cold, the state is strengthened. Even if the war is won, the state never abdicates its newly added prerogatives. People once again lose their freedom. Statism and its threat to freedom were the crucial issues. The interventionists admitted the likely loss of freedom but they stressed the immediate danger. They were Chodorov said, "willing to gamble with freedom. I am not."

As the anti-communist feeling gathered steam, Chodorov warned that "we are again being told to be afraid." Communism was indeed a threat, but Chodorov believed it would fall of its own weight because it was economically and politically an untenable system. In any case, the United States could not be the armed guardian for the whole world. The issue was war and the necessity of avoiding it. "The important thing for America now is not to let the fearmongers (or the imperialists) frighten us into a war which, no matter what the military outcome, is certain to communize our country." '
(Fugitive Essays, Selected Writings of Frank Chodorov, Indianapolis: Liberty Press, 1980)

The physical mechanism, "to communize," a miscegenation, is seen in the COVID-19-incubating crowds formed during BLM protests.

 

[badger2]

With Antifa's ringleader now captured, we look back to 28 Aug 2019 to see that it was cell phone destruction that reinforced what would become BLM's materialist trajectory:

Boedicca's thread, Unmasking Antifa, started on 19 Dec 2018, post #109

Unmasking ANTIFA

When you play "The Joos" card, you've already lost, bub. LOL!!! The worst group of supremacist humans now insists that you can never notice when they do ill to other humans. Epstein wasn't Jewish, because if you thought he was, you'd be playing "The Joos" card.... Sometimes it is hard to...

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[badger2]

Slowly an image builds of a BLM marxist sort that is misleading in that it fronts 'dignity' as a cover for selfishness, which latter can be distinguished from individualism, as we will show via Chodorov's excerpts. In an effort to decipher the trickery, an excellent example case comes into view from msm:

9 Jul 2020 Why "All Lives Matter" Communicates to Black People

Why "all lives matter" communicates to Black people that their lives don't

To many White people, "all lives matter" seems like a harmless, inclusive remark. For the Black community, however, it's anything but.

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'....likens it to your wife asking you if she's pretty and you responding "all people are pretty"....I get comments about 'well, what about the looters,' and I'm kind of like, well, that's not what we're talking about," she told CBS News.'

Here we have the set-up whereby the narrator leads the thinking, which is theological, so that the listener actually does believe 'that's not what we're talking about.' However, this is where the marxist specter and the flip-side of fascism comes in: the eye-pain (flip-side of fascism) of looted, destroyed buildings vs the eye-pain question from the wife.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Slowly an image builds of a BLM marxist sort that is misleading in that it fronts 'dignity' as a cover for selfishness, which latter can be distinguished from individualism, as we will show via Chodorov's excerpts. In an effort to decipher the trickery, an excellent example case comes into view from msm:

9 Jul 2020 Why "All Lives Matter" Communicates to Black People

Why "all lives matter" communicates to Black people that their lives don't

To many White people, "all lives matter" seems like a harmless, inclusive remark. For the Black community, however, it's anything but.

www.yahoo.com

'....likens it to your wife asking you if she's pretty and you responding "all people are pretty"....I get comments about 'well, what about the looters,' and I'm kind of like, well, that's not what we're talking about," she told CBS News.'

Here we have the set-up whereby the narrator leads the thinking, which is theological, so that the listener actually does believe 'that's not what we're talking about.' However, this is where the marxist specter and the flip-side of fascism comes in: the eye-pain (flip-side of fascism) of looted, destroyed buildings vs the eye-pain question from the wife.

A over "Height V Weight Ratio" Wife asked her husband if this Thong makes my ass look fat. He thought about it and finally answered, "No, your fat ass makes that thong look skinny". Services for that Man is at 2pm Next Tuesday.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The inconvenient truth for lefties is that the democrat party organized the so-called "communist witch hunts" and when it all went sour the media blamed the whole thing on a single loud mouthed republican senator who didn't even chair a committee. HUAC was a tool of the democrat majority in congress. Right now it seems that BLM is an extortion scheme endorsed by the media and Black lives are still being lost in Chicago (11 last weekend) while BLM seems to be concerned with occupying a park in Washington D.C. Why can't BLM count their money and call a truce and move on?

Yeah! We'll all make a pact and suddenly stop being racists! It's so simple! Everyone will all suddenly be equal, and we're all going to meet in Central Park and sing kumbaya together and bam! Racism over! This new unity of all gawd's creatures will successfully eradicate Covid-19 as well. All it took was White's stable genius this whole time!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The inconvenient truth for lefties is that the democrat party organized the so-called "communist witch hunts" and when it all went sour the media blamed the whole thing on a single loud mouthed republican senator who didn't even chair a committee. HUAC was a tool of the democrat majority in congress. Right now it seems that BLM is an extortion scheme endorsed by the media and Black lives are still being lost in Chicago (11 last weekend) while BLM seems to be concerned with occupying a park in Washington D.C. Why can't BLM count their money and call a truce and move on?

Yeah! We'll all make a pact and suddenly stop being racists! It's so simple! Everyone will all suddenly be equal, and we're all going to meet in Central Park and sing kumbaya together and bam! Racism over! This new unity of all gawd's creatures will successfully eradicate Covid-19 as well. All it took was White's stable genius this whole time!

 

[Agit8r]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

Is that the extent of the analogy? Or contrast? Whatever you were trying for there..

 

[badger2]

There's more to the analogy between Marxist-McCarthyism and selfish, looting, destructive, COVID-inconsiderate BLM-Antifa.

'Original Smear Words. The besmirching of individualism, however, had a good start before the modern era. The original defamers were not socialists but solid proponents of status, the upholders of special privilege, the mercantilists of the nineteenths century. Their opposition stemmed in part from the fact that individualism leaned heavily on the burgeoning doctrine of the free market, of laissez-faire economics, and as such presented a challenge to their preferred position. So they dug into the age-old bag of semantics and came up with two smear words: selfish and materialistic. Just like the later socialists, they had no compunction about twisting the truth to suit their argument.

Lassez-faire -- that is to say, an economy free of political interventions and subventions -- holds that the instinct of self-interest is the motive power of productive effort.....It is in the free market that self-interest finds its finest expression; that is a cardinal point in individualism. If the market is regularly raided, by robbers or the government, and the safety of property is impaired, the individual loses interest in production, and the abundance of things men live by shrinks. Hence, it is for the good of society that self-interest in the economic sphere be allowed to operate without hindrance.

But self-interest is not selfishness. Self-interest will impel the manufacturer to improve upon his output so as to attract trade, while selfishness will prompt him to seek the special privileges and state favor that in the end destroy the very system of economic freedom on which he depends. The worker who tries to improve his lot by rendering better service could hardly be called selfish; the description rather fits the worker who demands that he be paid for not working. The subsidy seeker is selfish, and so is every citizen who uses the law to enrich himself at the expense of other citizens.'
(Chodorov F, Fugitive Essays, 'What Individualism Is Not')

Marxist BLM-Antifa assemblage has done terror to American individualism. It should be lastingly boycotted and its pathologies exposed.

 

[badger2]

Should read 'Marxist-aware McCarthyism.'