BLM Vs McCarthyism

[Levant]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

Pure Bullshit. McCarthy was absolutely fighting to prevent what we're living today - a Communist insurrection in the United States funded and led by liberal elites in Hollywood and the nation's universities. You listen to too much fake news and fake history - history written by the communists who set him up so they could discredit him.

There is racism in the United States but not systemic racism. We elected a black president. 41% of white men voted for Obama, as did 46% of white women. White, anti-black, racism in the US, as a systemic, government, problem is over. Individual racists in government can, and should, still be dealt with.

BLM and the current fascist movement called AintIFascist are not at all comparable to McCarthy. McCarthy was a hero and BLM and Antifa are terrorist threats and revolutionaries trying to destroy the United States.

 

[Godboy]

What wrong needs to be forgiven OP?

BLM's entire premise.

 

[MaryL]

Um, lets see here. 100 people where shot, 9 of them fatally in Chicago last week. that wasn't by white cops, either. Most were negro males...Explain to me, as a ignorant white person, how shutting down police is going to make anything better? Explain that to me. With facts, no name calling or taking this off topic. Convince me.

I would rather argue that it might help to recognize that the legal system does not work the same for black people as it does for white people. White people don't get pulled over without reason, black people do. Black people get harsher sentences on average for the same crimes compared to white people.

I would argue that it might be a good idea to take a long hard look at police procedures, recruitment for policemen, or legal protections for policemen not available for regular people. I would argue to find a reason for and take measures against black versus white incarceration standing at over 5 to 1.

None of these things are easy to solve but acknowledging these problems exists instead of trying to demonize those that want solutions for those problems seems the right thing to do.

God love ya. Examine police procedures and yeah, good idea. Now what about, um...that deep dark area (cover your eyes kids, this is gonna get bad) poor black males...there is this persistent and pesky issue of the high crime rate by blacks, the hugenoromus black on black murder crime rate. The toxic atmosphere in poor black communities. Cops are like 10% of the issue, the other 90% is on blacks. So silly me, lets look at all the facts, not just what that silly little BLM man behind the curtain says.

 

[Levant]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

You are doing a false comparison. McCarthyism is nothing more than the 2nd Red Scare. We are currently involved in the 3rd Red Scare and it's just about run it's full course just like the 1st and the 2nd one did. So please stop the 3rd Red Scare insanity already.

It was about many people who promote left wing views that were communist with a soap box to do it on and infected Americans. Well they have power today.

And the 3rd Red Scare Continues. There never was, isn't now and never will be a Communist Government. List even one.

The USSR. As Lenin stated: The goal of socialism is communism.

Your mistake is equating a communist government to a marxist government; they're not the same. Marxism assumes some honesty on the part of the government and the governed - honesty that will never exist so it is all a dream but communism simply means that the government owns the means of production. The USSR owned the means of production, as did the GDR.

In all cases, though, it will never be from each according to their ability, to each according to their need. It is always from all according to the government's ability to take, to the elite, according to their campaign donations.

 

[MaryL]

I am terrible at debating. But then when you are debating say, flat earthers anti vaxers, flat earthers and deluded people with a agenda, you learn it isn't worth it. This anti cop, anti white thing on par with those irrational know-it-alls . You geniuses will figure it out eventually, even Einstein couldn't dissuade you.

 

[MaryL]

I am terrible at debating. But then when you are debating say, flat earthers anti vaxers and deluded people with a agenda, you learn it isn't worth bothering with. This anti cop, anti white thing is on par with those irrational know-it-alls . You geniuses will figure it out eventually, even Einstein couldn't dissuade you. I have faith in you, you WILL figure out what's wrong with this all by your self. It isn't hard.

 

[forkup]

Um, lets see here. 100 people where shot, 9 of them fatally in Chicago last week. that wasn't by white cops, either. Most were negro males...Explain to me, as a ignorant white person, how shutting down police is going to make anything better? Explain that to me. With facts, no name calling or taking this off topic. Convince me.

I would rather argue that it might help to recognize that the legal system does not work the same for black people as it does for white people. White people don't get pulled over without reason, black people do. Black people get harsher sentences on average for the same crimes compared to white people.

I would argue that it might be a good idea to take a long hard look at police procedures, recruitment for policemen, or legal protections for policemen not available for regular people. I would argue to find a reason for and take measures against black versus white incarceration standing at over 5 to 1.

None of these things are easy to solve but acknowledging these problems exists instead of trying to demonize those that want solutions for those problems seems the right thing to do.

God love ya. Examine police procedures and yeah, good idea. Now what about, um...that deep dark area (cover your eyes kids, this is gonna get bad) poor black males...there is this persistent and pesky issue of the high crime rate by blacks, the hugenoromus black on black murder crime rate. The toxic atmosphere in poor black communities. Cops are like 10% of the issue, the other 90% is on blacks. So silly me, lets look at all the facts, not just what that silly little BLM man behind the curtain says.

I'm gonna make an assumption here based solely on what side you are arguing. If I get it wrong feel free to correct me. I'm guessing you are against affirmative action, universal healthcare, free or cheap college, gun control, etc. etc. All these things might help in combatting poverty and violence amongst minorities. I'm guessing you are against every single one. You want to talk pesky issues, here's one, poverty is not a choice. A young black kid growing up in the US on average simply doesn't have the choices available to him that a white kid has. That is not on him that is on society as a whole.

 

[MaryL]

I am terrible at debating. But then when you are debating say, flat earthers anti vaxers, and deluded people with a agenda, you learn it isn't worth it. This anti cop, anti white thing on par with those irrational know-it-alls . You geniuses will figure it out eventually, even Einstein couldn't dissuade you.

 

[MaryL]

Silly me being silly...instead of defunding the police (Brilliant) and nice civic minded stuff like that. Instead...its really a hard concept to follow...um ahhem. STOP ACTING LIKE TOXIC RACIAL STEROTYPES! Its so crazy, it just might work!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

You are doing a false comparison. McCarthyism is nothing more than the 2nd Red Scare. We are currently involved in the 3rd Red Scare and it's just about run it's full course just like the 1st and the 2nd one did. So please stop the 3rd Red Scare insanity already.

It was about many people who promote left wing views that were communist with a soap box to do it on and infected Americans. Well they have power today.

And the 3rd Red Scare Continues. There never was, isn't now and never will be a Communist Government. List even one.

Well, that issue, PHHT, its done. Please don't derail the topic. BLM is comparable to McCarthyism. Similarities like oomph...too many to mention. I am terrible at this debating stuff. Believe me, nobody was tearing down statues or creating anti cop polemics and Anti cop zones, this period in time is singular. Some of our young people are possessed by a popular mass delusion.

It's a two sided coin.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

Pure Bullshit. McCarthy was absolutely fighting to prevent what we're living today - a Communist insurrection in the United States funded and led by liberal elites in Hollywood and the nation's universities. You listen to too much fake news and fake history - history written by the communists who set him up so they could discredit him.

There is racism in the United States but not systemic racism. We elected a black president. 41% of white men voted for Obama, as did 46% of white women. White, anti-black, racism in the US, as a systemic, government, problem is over. Individual racists in government can, and should, still be dealt with.

BLM and the current fascist movement called AintIFascist are not at all comparable to McCarthy. McCarthy was a hero and BLM and Antifa are terrorist threats and revolutionaries trying to destroy the United States.

You can't be a Fiscist and a Communits (really a Socialist). They are opposite sides of the spectrum.

 

[22lcidw]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

Pure Bullshit. McCarthy was absolutely fighting to prevent what we're living today - a Communist insurrection in the United States funded and led by liberal elites in Hollywood and the nation's universities. You listen to too much fake news and fake history - history written by the communists who set him up so they could discredit him.

There is racism in the United States but not systemic racism. We elected a black president. 41% of white men voted for Obama, as did 46% of white women. White, anti-black, racism in the US, as a systemic, government, problem is over. Individual racists in government can, and should, still be dealt with.

BLM and the current fascist movement called AintIFascist are not at all comparable to McCarthy. McCarthy was a hero and BLM and Antifa are terrorist threats and revolutionaries trying to destroy the United States.

You can't be a Fiscist and a Communits (really a Socialist). They are opposite sides of the spectrum.

Semantics.

 

[MaryL]

Over the last 65 years I've seen how this country went from anti communist witch hunts to this oppresive anti white atmosphere. Step back from the abyss and examine this. White cops, whites, we aren't the problem, its that perennial paranoia and the bugaboo, demagogues. THINK. ignore me, just look at ALL the facts, the BLM doesn't care about black lives, its just an empty slogan

 

[DigitalDrifter]

There really isn't much difference.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

White Americans living today do not need to apologize for anything. Black Americans living today have no one to forgive for anything.

 

[Levant]

I lived through the end of the communist witch hunts. McCarthyism hurt a lot of people for the sake grandstanding and they didn't care about the humans that are damaged or the facts or the after effects. But Senator Joe didn't urge people to violence either, but it created backlash we still feel today. I have no idea what BLM really is or what they really represent. But other than a nice title, they don't seem concerned with the lives of poor innocent blacks anymore than Joseph McCarthy was about fighting communism. Lets end this insanity. Stop the hate, learn to forgive and move on.

Pure Bullshit. McCarthy was absolutely fighting to prevent what we're living today - a Communist insurrection in the United States funded and led by liberal elites in Hollywood and the nation's universities. You listen to too much fake news and fake history - history written by the communists who set him up so they could discredit him.

There is racism in the United States but not systemic racism. We elected a black president. 41% of white men voted for Obama, as did 46% of white women. White, anti-black, racism in the US, as a systemic, government, problem is over. Individual racists in government can, and should, still be dealt with.

BLM and the current fascist movement called AintIFascist are not at all comparable to McCarthy. McCarthy was a hero and BLM and Antifa are terrorist threats and revolutionaries trying to destroy the United States.

You can't be a Fiscist and a Communits (really a Socialist). They are opposite sides of the spectrum.

No their not. That Antifa calls everyone on the right a fascist doesn't make it so.

 

[MaryL]

This evil tide of racism, this anti white hate has got to end. It's evil and villainous, and Americans are better than this. It will end, tomorrow next week or next year. And I hope we can forgive and forget.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

McCarthyism was bad enough, they were the original "cancel" culture. Getting people fired, shaming them, blacklist where bad enough. Because of things folks did 20 years earlier, youthful indiscretions or mistakes people make. But NOW hold on here. Somebody pointed out, this is different. Its worse. But the same. McCarthy didn't endeavor to destroy the fabric of American culture, McCarthyism was a tear, a pull at the thread...These BLM chaps want to pull down statues, destroy police and law enforcement and this doesn't benefit anyone. This is dire, far worse that McCarthy could have dreamt.

It's being overblown by the Party of the Rumpsters trying to make us all not notice the blunders of the Rump. Almost no one wants to do away with the Police Forces. Most of us want to make them more fiscally responsible. And that is usually a Conservatives point of contension. But the Party of the Rump are NOT Conservatives nor Fiscally Responsible or even Republicans.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

BLM klan and McCarthyism are comparable in the blackballing of those who object to either.
Look at the people who have been extorted by the BLM klan into apologizing for nothing.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

McCarthyism was bad enough, they were the original "cancel" culture. Getting people fired, shaming them, blacklist where bad enough. Because of things folks did 20 years earlier, youthful indiscretions or mistakes people make. But NOW hold on here. Somebody pointed out, this is different. Its worse. But the same. McCarthy didn't endeavor to destroy the fabric of American culture, McCarthyism was a tear, a pull at the thread...These BLM chaps want to pull down statues, destroy police and law enforcement and this doesn't benefit anyone. This is dire, far worse that McCarthy could have dreamt.

It's being overblown by the Party of the Rumpsters trying to make us all not notice the blunders of the Rump. Almost no one wants to do away with the Police Forces. Most of us want to make them more fiscally responsible. And that is usually a Conservatives point of contension. But the Party of the Rump are NOT Conservatives nor Fiscally Responsible or even Republicans.

You call burning and looting and assassination overblown? You’re a phony.