bleak future for the "Fox News crowd"

[Uncensored2008]

What are you talking about???

Sorry, I'll try to stick to monosyllabic phrases.

I know you're used to "Party Good, Republican BAD."

I don't consider 80 very good.

I don't see the left in this forum reaching 80.

That's why I said it must be yours. And for you to say most lefties on this forum are closer to 65 is just plain stupid.

Hey, you said it. But you're right, the left is just plain stupid. That's why you're the left...

Your side has people like Stephanie and Willow!!! Better rethink it, slick.

You've got Jillian, Truthmatters, and Mr. Shithead - and those are your intellectuals... I'd bet either Stephenie or Willow have more IQ points than those three combined...

 

[KevinWestern]

Listen Bucko, my point was that when you rely on a heavily biased news outlet for your "news", you're going to be given an intentionally obstructed & manipulated view of the world.

"Biased" being that which deviates from the party line...

When an outlet has an agenda, they're going to inevitably report stories in ways that aid and assist that agenda.

So Fox has "an agenda." The DNC press doesn't, but evil Fox does....

Of course, dirty bastards.



Really, can you point to stories suppressed by Fox?

Because I can point to dozens that were suppressed by the party press. (Blue dress, Edwards, Fast & Furious...)



I see no evidence of that, and a great deal of evidence that you would rather get your news from a source loyal to the party that ensures no information harmful to the party is published.



Bullshit.

There is the party media, and there is Fox.

You seek to silence the one news source that is not controlled by the party.

Even if you silence Fox, there is still the internet, you know. The facts will escape, no matter how hard the party works to contain them.

Also, saying that you are fundamentally against heavily-biased reporting entities IS NOT the same as saying that you're against a free press, or that you want certain news organizations forcefully shut down. What a load of crap, Uncensored; stop muddying the waters with bullshit assertions, and stop trying to smear me as some sort of controlling leftist communist. I don't want Fox shut down, I'm just encouraging people to avoid it because it spews sensationalized biased garbage...

Silencing the opposition voice is not being fundamentally again biased reporting, you just want to silence those who expose your party.

Finally, to say that Fox news is "middle of the road" with regards to political leaning is totally incorrect. They are a heavily biased entertainment group for folks who align with the Republican Party.

Like most leftists, you don't grasp the distinction between news reporting and commentary. I understand, the party media publishes commentary as if it were news. But as news reporting goes, Fox IS middle of the road, as is CNN these days. MSNBC is blatant propaganda, and the alphabets are extremely biased.

That Sean Hannity fails to proclaim Obama the one, true Messiah® doesn't alter the fact that news reports on Fox are accurate.

Are you even listening to the words I am saying?

If I say that I prefer to get my news from an outlet whose only agenda is to report the news in a neutral, non-opinionated fashion, how does that translate (in your head) to "I want all news organizations to be controlled by 'the party' or the Democratic party"? When did I EVER say that the DNC didn't also have an agenda? Where in my posts was I endorsing MSNBC or any of the other left wing news outlets? When did I call Fox "evil"?

I don't want my news stations to worship OR smear Obama; I just want them to report the facts in a non-biased fashion.

But again, apparently you prefer your news with a heavy dose of opinion. Fox is just as much of a propaganda machine as MSNBC. We need something better. That is my argument.

Are you capable of responding without twisting around my arguments to suit your own needs?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

An open borders, homosexual, occupying, welfare dependent, ghetto class is a brighter future for America.................

....Especially when you consider the alternative.

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[Mr. Shaman]

LOL, spews about Fox news then post from some idiot site called, alternet.

Agreed.​

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[Too Tall]

Agreed.

They doctor and edit interviews to make Republicans look foolish or dishonest. I'm glad Romney finally caught on and refuses to play that game.

Real testament to his courage. Proclaim everyone is against him and he is the victim. Sounds just like those "10 health secrets your doctor doesnt want you to know" advertisements.

You mean like Democrats who are now running from being seen with Obama or won't even show up to the convention?

It is up to 9 no shows to the DNC Convention and counting. I just checked and it is now up to 14 no shows. They are on recess from August 6th until September 7th. That means they will bug out of DC on 8/3 and won't come back until 9/10. that is 40 days and they couldn't spare 3 days to support Obama. LMAO.

 

[Freewill]

Bleak future for the Fox News crowd. Demographic shifts in America virtually assure the Fox News crowd will be fighting an uphill battle up a steeper slope every year.

City Living Boom for Young Adults Spells Doom For the GOP | AlterNet

I don't think we all boomers will feel left out. We'll still be around paying most of the bills.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is a good thing. City life and densification have almost always led to greater progressivism: it's harder to be a libertarian when the importance of social services is incredibly clear all around you, and it's harder to be a bigot when there are people of varying races, orientations and lifestyles living all around you mostly without incident.

Let's see how that progressivism works when these underemployed, deeply indebted young people are forced to pay ever higher Social Security taxes to support their wealthier, retired parents more comfortable life style.

When they're forced to pay higher state and local taxes to support their wealthier, retired government workers more comfortable life style.

 

[Conservative]

your lies are going to have a short life huh

posts like that are why your party is dying.

 

[Charles_Main]

Bleak future for the Fox News crowd. Demographic shifts in America virtually assure the Fox News crowd will be fighting an uphill battle up a steeper slope every year.

City Living Boom for Young Adults Spells Doom For the GOP | AlterNet

Keep Dreaming sweet heart. Fox Thrives, and Pummels the others in the Ratings for one reason and one Reason alone. All the other networks lean Left, FOX Leans Right. The Difference, Fox Provides balance, not the Liberal Democrat Love Fest found on so many other News Outlets.

That's why they will remain Number 1 For years to come.

Deal with it. Learn to separate their Commentators, who make no attempt to hide their Bias, with their Hard news which is actually the Fairest and most balanced out there, and the Reason they dominate in the ratings. Liberal Propaganda not withstanding.

 

[francoHFW]

Poor angry old white men and haters...your "facts" are all Pubcrappe.

Romneycare a great success, none of the PUB doom and gloom.

Frontline said cost rises are now 2%, easily the lowest in the USA. So change the channel...

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[francoHFW]

boomp for foxbots...bless your idealistic little hearts...

 

[skookerasbil]

Bleak future for the Fox News crowd. Demographic shifts in America virtually assure the Fox News crowd will be fighting an uphill battle up a steeper slope every year.

City Living Boom for Young Adults Spells Doom For the GOP | AlterNet

Alternet?

I love the k00ks who post up the fake websites thinking they'll be changing an opinion!!!

 

[hjmick]

I've be reading about the death knell for Fox News on this board for years.

Still hasn't happened.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are you even listening to the words I am saying?

Fox BAD, bahhh bahh

If I say that I prefer to get my news from an outlet whose only agenda is to report the news in a neutral, non-opinionated fashion,

And I'm saying Fox is closer to that objective than any other source. I'm also saying that this is the basis of your actual complaint.

Of course, one does need to grasp the distinction between news and commentary..

how does that translate (in your head) to "I want all news organizations to be controlled by 'the party' or the Democratic party"? When did I EVER say that the DNC didn't also have an agenda? Where in my posts was I endorsing MSNBC or any of the other left wing news outlets? When did I call Fox "evil"?

I didn't say that you endorsed anyone. You have attacked Fox, so you must be looking to other sources. Currently, there are DNC controlled sources, and Fox on the air. If you watch news on TV, you can watch what the DNC puts out, or you can watch Fox. Again, you attacked Fox, ergo......

I don't want my news stations to worship OR smear Obama; I just want them to report the facts in a non-biased fashion.

That's nice.

But again, apparently you prefer your news with a heavy dose of opinion.

I appreciate that you support your party and have a duty to attack enemies of the party. But what you claim is false, as you well know. News reports on Fox have no imbedded opinion (nor does CNN at this point in time.) Opinion on Fox is clearly designated as such. O'Reilly isn't an Anchorman. I understand that you want him silenced, but he has nothing to do with news reporting on FNC, he does a commentary show that is labeled as commentary.

Fox is just as much of a propaganda machine as MSNBC. We need something better. That is my argument.

Of course what you claim is false, but you are a partisan, so you say what serves the party, not what is true.

Are you capable of responding without twisting around my arguments to suit your own needs?

Are these your arguments?

 

[KevinWestern]

And I'm saying Fox is closer to that objective than any other source. I'm also saying that this is the basis of your actual complaint.

You don’t see FOX as having a right-wing bias? Just because most of the other news outlets out there tend to lean left-wing does not exempt Fox from also holding a bias in the other direction.

I didn't say that you endorsed anyone. You have attacked Fox, so you must be looking to other sources. Currently, there are DNC controlled sources, and Fox on the air. If you watch news on TV, you can watch what the DNC puts out, or you can watch Fox. Again, you attacked Fox, ergo......

Ahh, I get it. Because I don’t like Fox, that means that I MUST be a communist Democrat who welcomes in total government control. What’s wrong with you Uncensored?

I’ll tell you why I don’t like Fox. In my opinion, they generally tend to hold a pro-Republican Party bias. Problem is, I don’t like the Modern Republican Party.

I think Republicans are Authoritarian, War hungry, and spend just as much as their Democratic counterparts. The Bush Administration spent money wildly and recklessly and did more to increase the executive powers of the POTUS than any administration in the past 50 years. Republicans voted in favor of the NDAA 2012 act that gave the Fed Gov’t the ability to detain “terrorists” indefinitely. Republicans want to draft into law rigid social norms that dictate how we all should and should not behave. You want small gov’t? Better look elsewhere, buddy.

I appreciate that you support your party and have a duty to attack enemies of the party.

What party is that exactly Uncensored?

News reports on Fox have no imbedded opinion (nor does CNN at this point in time.) Opinion on Fox is clearly designated as such. O'Reilly isn't an Anchorman. I understand that you want him silenced, but he has nothing to do with news reporting on FNC, he does a commentary show that is labeled as commentary.

Yes, Fox has an “imbedded” pro-Republican opinion and agenda.

Also, how exactly do you “understand” that I "want O’Reilly silenced" (where did that idea conjure up in that one-track mind of yours)? Again, putting words in my mouth. I actually have a good deal of respect for O’Reilly and consider him a funny guy at times. I realize he’s not an Anchorman.

Of course what you claim is false, but you are a partisan, so you say what serves the party, not what is true.

What partisan leaning do I have exactly? If a man does not like baseball, do you automatically conclude that he likes basketball?

 

[Uncensored2008]

You don’t see FOX as having a right-wing bias?

I'm able to distinguish commentary from news coverage.

You clearly are not.

Just because most of the other news outlets out there tend to lean left-wing does not exempt Fox from also holding a bias in the other direction.

See above.

Ahh, I get it. Because I don’t like Fox, that means that I MUST be a communist Democrat who welcomes in total government control. What’s wrong with you Uncensored?

You're welcome to watch any source you like. But if you make claims that are patently false, you get called on them.

I’ll tell you why I don’t like Fox. In my opinion, they generally tend to hold a pro-Republican Party bias. Problem is, I don’t like the Modern Republican Party.

I understand that - and the commentary shows do favor the Republicans.

BUT, and it's a big but; I'm able to distinguish commentary from news coverage.

I think Republicans are Authoritarian, War hungry, and spend just as much as their Democratic counterparts.

I think the democrats roll into totalitarian territory. But that in no way creates a impetus for me to defend the Republicans.

The Bush Administration spent money wildly and recklessly and did more to increase the executive powers of the POTUS than any administration in the past 50 years.

Are you Rip Van Winkle, then?

You've missed the last 3 1/2 years.

Republicans voted in favor of the NDAA 2012 act that gave the Fed Gov’t the
ability to detain “terrorists” indefinitely.

Wasn't it Dear Leader who signed that into law? Didn't the overwhelming majority of dims vote for that? In fact, couldn't the dim controlled Senate have stopped it?

Seriously, if you want to portray your party as blameless and pure, you might choose a better subject.

Republicans want to draft into law rigid social norms that dictate how we all should and should not behave.

Did they suggest laws against murder, rape, arson and assault? The bastards...

You want small gov’t? Better look elsewhere, buddy.

To your beloved party? The one where Obama created Fascist Care, that literally merges the federal government and well connected looters like Blue Cross and Kaiser?

What party is that exactly Uncensored?

It appears the fascist democrat party.

Yes, Fox has an “imbedded” pro-Republican opinion and agenda.

Because O'Reilly has a show?

How exactly do you “understand” that I want O’Reilly silenced (where did that idea conjure up in that one-track mind of yours)? Again, putting words in my mouth. I actually have a good deal of respect for O’Reilly and consider him a funny guy at times. I realize he’s not an Anchorman.

Then demonstrate this pro-Republican opinion in news stories? Yes, they ran "Fast and Furious" when the party wanted it suppressed, but I don't call that an agenda, I call it ethical journalism.

What partisan leaning do I have exactly? If a man does not like baseball, do you automatically conclude that he likes basketball?

If he is in the stadium and there are 20 basketball games going on, to the single baseball game - whilst he declare baseball "corrupt?"

Yeah, I guess I would.

 

[KevinWestern]

You don’t see FOX as having a right-wing bias?

I'm able to distinguish commentary from news coverage.

You clearly are not.

Just because most of the other news outlets out there tend to lean left-wing does not exempt Fox from also holding a bias in the other direction.

See above.



You're welcome to watch any source you like. But if you make claims that are patently false, you get called on them.



I understand that - and the commentary shows do favor the Republicans.

BUT, and it's a big but; I'm able to distinguish commentary from news coverage.



I think the democrats roll into totalitarian territory. But that in no way creates a impetus for me to defend the Republicans.



Are you Rip Van Winkle, then?

You've missed the last 3 1/2 years.



Wasn't it Dear Leader who signed that into law? Didn't the overwhelming majority of dims vote for that? In fact, couldn't the dim controlled Senate have stopped it?

Seriously, if you want to portray your party as blameless and pure, you might choose a better subject.



Did they suggest laws against murder, rape, arson and assault? The bastards...



To your beloved party? The one where Obama created Fascist Care, that literally merges the federal government and well connected looters like Blue Cross and Kaiser?



It appears the fascist democrat party.



Because O'Reilly has a show?

How exactly do you “understand” that I want O’Reilly silenced (where did that idea conjure up in that one-track mind of yours)? Again, putting words in my mouth. I actually have a good deal of respect for O’Reilly and consider him a funny guy at times. I realize he’s not an Anchorman.

Then demonstrate this pro-Republican opinion in news stories? Yes, they ran "Fast and Furious" when the party wanted it suppressed, but I don't call that an agenda, I call it ethical journalism.

What partisan leaning do I have exactly? If a man does not like baseball, do you automatically conclude that he likes basketball?

If he is in the stadium and there are 20 basketball games going on, to the single baseball game - whilst he declare baseball "corrupt?"

Yeah, I guess I would.

Uncensored, alright I get it. Your argument says that FOX's commentary is pro-Republican, but their reporting is strictly neutral. Mine is that FOX's commentary is pro-Republican, and so is their reporting. Agree to disagree.

But on another front, I'd like to try and understand why exactly you continue to think that I'm Pro-Obama, Pro-Democrat, Pro-socialism?

I clearly was criticizing the Republicans for co-championing the NDAA 2012, spending too much, increasing executive powers, ect, ect, so why would it make any sense at all for me to like the Democrats (who do the exact same thing)?

Is your mind only capable of grasping a perceived black/white world where you can be only one of two things (ie he doesn't like Republicans so he MUST be a socialist! haha!)? Or are you better than that?

.

 

[JoeNormal]

Bleak future for the Fox News crowd. Demographic shifts in America virtually assure the Fox News crowd will be fighting an uphill battle up a steeper slope every year.

City Living Boom for Young Adults Spells Doom For the GOP | AlterNet

Maybe if the republicans can loosen pollution standards on drinking water and get a whole bunch more mercury and lead into the general population, the average IQ will drop to the point that Fox will remain viable.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bleak future for the Fox News crowd. Demographic shifts in America virtually assure the Fox News crowd will be fighting an uphill battle up a steeper slope every year.

City Living Boom for Young Adults Spells Doom For the GOP | AlterNet

Maybe if the republicans can loosen pollution standards on drinking water and get a whole bunch more mercury and lead into the general population, the average IQ will drop to the point that Fox will remain viable.

The inner city lead paint eaters all voted for Obama.

 

[Rinata]

What are you talking about???

Sorry, I'll try to stick to monosyllabic phrases.

I know you're used to "Party Good, Republican BAD."

I don't consider 80 very good.

I don't see the left in this forum reaching 80.

That's why I said it must be yours. And for you to say most lefties on this forum are closer to 65 is just plain stupid.

Hey, you said it. But you're right, the left is just plain stupid. That's why you're the left...

Your side has people like Stephanie and Willow!!! Better rethink it, slick.

You've got Jillian, Truthmatters, and Mr. Shithead - and those are your intellectuals... I'd bet either Stephenie or Willow have more IQ points than those three combined...

Of course you would think that. You're in the same category.