Births fall to 42-year low in U.S.

[Ray From Cleveland]

We now have to rely on immigration to fill the gaps. Stop making it illegal to come here. It seems to me that conservatives believe that just coming here to become a member of our society is a crime. It's not. All the person has to do is turn themselves over at the border and follow the legal steps to come here. Unfortunately during the trump years that process was nearly cut off creating a very big problem of people coming across the border.

We need immigration reform. It's been proposed several times but has never managed to get through our congress to be signed and become law. Seems to me the only reform the republicans want is to stop immigration totally. They don't seem to be willing to do anything to make the situation better.

Trump had the border situation under control--Biden Fd it all up by removing Trump's policies. Now we have tens of thousands of illegals many of which have Covid being bused all across the country from coast to coast while Dementia stopped travel to and from India because of their outbreak.

When a country no longer has borders, it's no longer a country. The United States allows a million foreigners to come here to become citizens every single year. We pass out nearly a million Visa's and green cards every year for people to take advantage of what we created. We spend billions of our tax dollars on foreign aid to those counties sending their illegals here. That's on top of the vast amount of private charities to help their citizens.

Nobody does more for foreigners than the United States of America; nobody even comes close. For anybody to suggest we need to do more better study other countries and how they handle foreigners there, because the US is doing way to much for these people instead of not enough.

 

[Unkotare]

Right now, I'm trying to help YOU grow up.

By being a troll? That's all you are here you know.

Did an adult tell you that, little boy?

 

[Unkotare]

Back to the point....

It is simple math.
You take three generations...
a) Grandparents
b) Parents
c) Children
The way the wheel works is Group C will pay most of the retirement cost of Group B, and part of group A as that generation dies off.
Right now we have a record level lows of group C. This will have a minor effect on group A. And a dramatic effect on Group B.
And guess who group B is folks?? - Millennials. Y'all are not raising enough to take care of you when you retire.

Well you have to make a pretty good buck today to raise a child. This is especially true of single mothers. Much of the time the father helps but sometimes not. Then it begs the question: If we are having record low birth rates, how is it our population keeps increasing?

Well yes, but you don't pay it all at once. And most of the expenses come in the first 5 years. Kids become much cheaper after that age, basically you just feed and clothe them.

As to your other note... the populations that are increasing are those that have no intention of supporting their child. They let the government pay for it. So for those folks - kids are free, in fact can make you money.

Fertility rates are FALLING. Without immigration, our national population would be in decline by now.

 

[Unkotare]

Back to the point....

It is simple math.
You take three generations...
a) Grandparents
b) Parents
c) Children
The way the wheel works is Group C will pay most of the retirement cost of Group B, and part of group A as that generation dies off.
Right now we have a record level lows of group C. This will have a minor effect on group A. And a dramatic effect on Group B.
And guess who group B is folks?? - Millennials. Y'all are not raising enough to take care of you when you retire.

Well you have to make a pretty good buck today to raise a child. ...

Did your parents ever tell you that you ruined their lives by being born? Did they present you with a bill? Or did they feel blessed to have a child?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Did an adult tell you that, little boy?

I'm probably old enough to be your father. The only one acting like a little boy is you. In fact you should spend your time in a teen chat room where entertainment is insulting each other.

 

[Unkotare]

Did an adult tell you that, little boy?

I'm probably old enough to be your father. ...

You're not old enough, nor man enough. You're a self-centered little boy who doesn't even understand what it means to be human.

 

[TNHarley]

No.

This is repeat.

Close the border. Let our citizens get back to work for twenty years and then open it back up as needed. Easy-peasy.

Screw the border, close down ANY business that employs non-citizens. 90% improvement in a couple of months.

Thats called "fixing a problem"
If the duopoly didnt have problems, they couldnt run on fear and misdirection.
If they dont have fear and misdirection, they have nothing.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

No.

This is repeat.

Close the border. Let our citizens get back to work for twenty years and then open it back up as needed. Easy-peasy.

Screw the border, close down ANY business that employs non-citizens. 90% improvement in a couple of months.

Thats called "fixing a problem"
If the duopoly didnt have problems, they couldnt run on fear and misdirection.
If they dont have fear and misdirection, they have nothing.

Who is they?
And I suppose your "they" is, of course, only employed by the other side right?

 

[TNHarley]

You sound like you don't have children.

Correct, I don't. I didn't want the expense or responsibility of children.

Maybe you'll grow up some day.

Not having children doesnt mean he needs to grow up. What a stupid thing to say.
Sounds like YOU need to grow up

 

[TNHarley]

No.

This is repeat.

Close the border. Let our citizens get back to work for twenty years and then open it back up as needed. Easy-peasy.

Screw the border, close down ANY business that employs non-citizens. 90% improvement in a couple of months.

Thats called "fixing a problem"
If the duopoly didnt have problems, they couldnt run on fear and misdirection.
If they dont have fear and misdirection, they have nothing.

Who is they?
And I suppose your "they" is, of course, only employed by the other side right?

I said "duopoly"
Meaning dems and reps
Meaning, I think both sides are fucking corrupt morons.
Try expanding your vocabulary

 

[Unkotare]

You sound like you don't have children.

Correct, I don't. I didn't want the expense or responsibility of children.

Maybe you'll grow up some day.

Not having children doesnt mean he needs to grow up. ....

Read ALL of his comments on this thread.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

No.

This is repeat.

Close the border. Let our citizens get back to work for twenty years and then open it back up as needed. Easy-peasy.

Screw the border, close down ANY business that employs non-citizens. 90% improvement in a couple of months.

Thats called "fixing a problem"
If the duopoly didnt have problems, they couldnt run on fear and misdirection.
If they dont have fear and misdirection, they have nothing.

Who is they?
And I suppose your "they" is, of course, only employed by the other side right?

I said "duopoly"
Meaning dems and reps
Meaning, I think both sides are fucking corrupt morons.
Try expanding your vocabulary

I stand corrected. I misunderstood your post. Or pre-judged it. Either way, my mistake
Cheers

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You're not old enough, nor man enough. You're a self-centered little boy who doesn't even understand what it means to be human.

Being human is is being responsible for your actions. You don't have children unless you know for a fact you can easily support them. People like you have kids and then apply for every social program to take care them which is irresponsible.

On the other hand, the more shit you write, you are probably correct that I'm not old enough to be your father. Now I'm convinced I'm old enough to be your grandfather as you talk like somebody still in their single digits.

 

[Concerned American]

Now I would have thought that the pandemic would have led to an increase in births...it appears not:

Births fall to 42-year low in U.S.

Some experts have sounded the alarm on declining birth rates and what this will mean for the U.S. economy in the years to come. In a recent interview with "CBS This Morning" co-host Tony Dokoupil, Dowell Myers, who studies demographics at the University of Southern California, called the phenomenon a "crisis.
"We need to have enough working-age people to carry the load of these seniors, who deserve their retirement, they deserve all their entitlements, and they're gonna live out another 30 years," he said. "Nobody in the history of the globe has had so many older people to deal with."
The pandemic could prove to exacerbate the decline. The Brookings Institution has predicted "a large, lasting baby bust" of at least 300,000 fewer children in 2021. Health departments in more than two dozen states provided records to CBS News, showing a 7% drop in births in December — nine months after the first lockdowns began. Phil Cohen, a sociologist at the University of Maryland, said December's drop was the biggest he's seen since the baby boom ended in 1964.II
"We don't know if it's the beginning of a bigger decline over the whole next year or if it's just a shock from March," Cohen said in February. "But I'm more inclined based on history to think that all of next year is going to be very much down for births."

I guess there is a silver lining:

Among teenagers, many of whom shifted to remote learning due to the pandemic, birth rates fell precipitously, according to data released by the CDC. The birth rate for young women between the ages of 15 and 19 fell to a record low in 2020, dropping to 15.3 births per 1,000, an 8% decline from the year before. That continues a significant downward trend over the past two decades — down 75% from 1991, the most recent peak.

I thought the same thing, but about the third day of the lockdowns, all I've heard is, "Git offa me!" LOL

 

[Unkotare]

You're not old enough, nor man enough. You're a self-centered little boy who doesn't even understand what it means to be human.

Being human is is being responsible for your actions. ......

And your inactions?

 

[Unkotare]

. You don't have children unless you know for a fact you can easily support them. ......

"Easily"? You don't do anything unless you know for a fact it will be easy? Is that really how you approach life?

 

[Unkotare]

People like you have kids and then apply for every social program ......

You guess wrong, little boy.

 

[TNHarley]

No.

This is repeat.

Close the border. Let our citizens get back to work for twenty years and then open it back up as needed. Easy-peasy.

Screw the border, close down ANY business that employs non-citizens. 90% improvement in a couple of months.

Thats called "fixing a problem"
If the duopoly didnt have problems, they couldnt run on fear and misdirection.
If they dont have fear and misdirection, they have nothing.

Who is they?
And I suppose your "they" is, of course, only employed by the other side right?

I said "duopoly"
Meaning dems and reps
Meaning, I think both sides are fucking corrupt morons.
Try expanding your vocabulary

I stand corrected. I misunderstood your post. Or pre-judged it. Either way, my mistake
Cheers

It happens

 

[candycorn]

Not that women are much better but all one has to do is view this board for about five minutes and you see what men have become in this day and age. Its a long way from one to the other but one of the reasons birth rates are declining is because the suitability population dwindles more every day.

Everyone is so angry....

 

[Unkotare]

... Now I'm convinced I'm old enough to be your grandfather ....

You keep guessing wrong.