"Bin Laden is Dead, General Motors is Alive"

[antiquity]

I don't know the number but it's got to be what, a million or so maybe?

"UNITED STATES

Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700"

Republicans had control of the country for eight years. If they cared, why didn't they ban abortion?

Abortion has been legal in this country for 40 years. It isn't going to change

We had a Republican President when Roe vs Wade passed

They like to keep abortion as a talking point.

Roe v Wade didn't pass anything. It was a women who brought suit against a state for not allowing her to get an abortion and the SC agreed with the women. Who was in office or control of congress had nothing to do with the SC ruling.

I agree that the right to an abortion will not change, at less in the near future, but states will continue to chip away to make it extremely hard to find an abortion doctor who will do the procedure.

 

[Munin]

Oh pretty please ... how much time would you have given Bush to get Bin Laden?
He had a whole decade to do it and he failed, Obama had 4 years and he got him.
Those re the facts, trying to claim that Bush got him killed in another presidency is just as stupid as blaiming Obama for killing the economy (which is what Bush also alowed in his presidency).

He did btw, but he didn't gave the order when the special forces were begging him to do so

This true, but you got the wrong president, it was during the Clinton administration that they had bin Laden in their sights and passed on the chance at least three times.

Yeah that is true, Clinton failed to do so as he didn't seem to see him as a threat. But Bush also failed to get him on at least 1 occasion

According to the U.S. Senate – Bin Laden was “within the grasp” of the U.S. military in Afghanistan in December 2001, but that then-secretary of defense Rumsfeld refused to provide the soldiers necessary to capture him.

This is not news: it was disclosed in 2005 by the CIA field commander for the area in Afghanistan where Bin Laden was holed up.

In addition, French soldiers allegedly say that they easily could have captured or killed Bin Laden in Afghanistan, but that the American commanders stopped them.

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A retired Colonel and Fox News military analyst said that the U.S. could have killed Bin Laden in 2007, but didn’t:

We know, with a 70 percent level of certainty — which is huge in the world of intelligence — that in August of 2007, bin Laden was in a convoy headed south from Tora Bora. We had his butt, on camera, on satellite. We were listening to his conversations. We had the world’s best hunters/killers — Seal Team 6 [Note: this is the exact same team that is credited with killing Bin Laden yesterday] — nearby. We had the world class Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) coordinating with the CIA and other agencies. We had unmanned drones overhead with missiles on their wings; we had the best Air Force on the planet, begging to drop one on the terrorist. We had him in our sights; we had done it ….Unbelievably, and in my opinion, criminally, we did not kill Usama bin Laden.

Indeed, a United States Congressman claims that the Bush administration intentionally let Bin Laden escape in order to justify the Iraq war.

Similarly, Cenk Uygur pointed out:
The New York Times reported … that we sent in 36 U.S. Special Forces troops to get Osama bin Laden when we knew he was in Tora Bora. By contrast, we sent nearly 150,000 soldiers to get Saddam Hussein. In case you’re keeping count at home, we got Saddam and we didn’t get Osama. What does that tell you about this administration’s priorities? This goes beyond incompetence. If you send only 36 soldiers to get somebody in the middle of Afghanistan, it means you don’t want to get him…
Osama had about 1,500-2,000 well-armed, well-trained men in the region. 36 guys to get 2,000? Why would we let ourselves be outgunned like that?…

There is an inescapable fact – if you put this little effort into capturing someone, it means you don’t want to capture him.

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[rightwinger]

Is OBL better off than he was four years ago? Hell no.

And that's different from the rest of us . . . . how?

You are still posting on the Internet.....

He is not