Bill has been introduced to re-direct FEMA funds from illegals to Helene victims

[Faun]

Non answer.

 

[struth]

Giving FEMA funds to spend on migrants crossing the border.

Spending FEMA founds on a border crisis, and GIVING FEMA Funds to migrants are two different things.

We have spent FEMA funds to deal with disasters on the border long before Trump. Trump however spent way less then Harris and Xiden, because Harris had an open border policy and was actually spending money to resettle them in the United States.

Try to keep up

 

[Faun]

Spending FEMA founds on a border crisis, and GIVING FEMA Funds to migrants are two different things.

We have spent FEMA funds to deal with disasters on the border long before Trump. Trump however spent way less then Harris and Xiden, because Harris had an open border policy and was actually spending money to resettle them in the United States.

Try to keep up

LOLOL

So Trump giving money to migrants is good but Biden doing that is bad. Is that your dementia?

 

[struth]

LOLOL

So Trump giving money to migrants is good but Biden doing that is bad. Is that your dementia?

um, link to him GIVING money to migrants.

If you can't, don't worry about it. I don't expect you to

 

[Faun]

um, link to him GIVING money to migrants.

If you can't, don't worry about it. I don't expect you to

You're always the loser. Funny how that works out.

Emergency Food and Shelter Program

The Emergency Food and Shelter Program (EFSP) is a FEMA-funded program authorized by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act of 1987. The program supplements and expands ongoing work of local nonprofit and governmental social service organizations to provide shelter, food, and supportive...

www.fema.gov

Humanitarian EFSP for Organizations Assisting Migrants

Congress first appropriated funds for EFSP assistance specifically for support for families and individuals encountered by the Department of Homeland Security (EFSP-Humanitarian, or EFSP-H) in 2019 and the following amounts were awarded to the EFSP National Board.​

 

[struth]

You're always the loser. Funny how that works out.

Emergency Food and Shelter Program

The Emergency Food and Shelter Program (EFSP) is a FEMA-funded program authorized by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act of 1987. The program supplements and expands ongoing work of local nonprofit and governmental social service organizations to provide shelter, food, and supportive...

www.fema.gov

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Humanitarian EFSP for Organizations Assisting Migrants​

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Congress first appropriated funds for EFSP assistance specifically for support for families and individuals encountered by the Department of Homeland Security (EFSP-Humanitarian, or EFSP-H) in 2019 and the following amounts were awarded to the EFSP National Board.​

Yes, we give aid to American organizations that assit migrants.

How do you not see the difference between that and the billions used to give directly to migrants to resettle?

 

[Nostra]

Non answer.

 

[boedicca]

The Dems will not support this bill. They are more interested in making sure illegals vote.

 

[struth]

Check this out... FEMA giving money to migrants that the right is losing their shit over and lying so much about, FEMA literally had to create a fact check webpage to correct their bullshit...

BEGAN IN 2019 WITH TRUMP SIGNING IT INTO LAW...

Emergency Food and Shelter Program

The Emergency Food and Shelter Program (EFSP) is a FEMA-funded program authorized by the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act of 1987. The program supplements and expands ongoing work of local nonprofit and governmental social service organizations to provide shelter, food, and supportive...

www.fema.gov

​

Humanitarian EFSP for Organizations Assisting Migrants​

​

Congress first appropriated funds for EFSP assistance specifically for support for families and individuals encountered by the Department of Homeland Security (EFSP-Humanitarian, or EFSP-H) in 2019 and the following amounts were awarded to the EFSP National Board.​

If I had no fingers, I could count on one hand how many times the right complained about that.

Your prior link is talking about the Shelter and Relief Program, where Harris and Xiden have given over a billion since 2023...this is a new program, started in 2023....not what you are linking to here.

Shelter and Services Program | FEMA.gov

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is funded through U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and administered by FEMA, as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023.

www.fema.gov

 

[Care4all]

Your prior link is talking about the Shelter and Relief Program, where Harris and Xiden have given over a billion since 2023...this is a new program, started in 2023....not what you are linking to here.

Shelter and Services Program | FEMA.gov

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is funded through U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), and administered by FEMA, as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023.

www.fema.gov

This Shelter and Relief program, as it says in your headline to the link... Customs Border Protection i FUNDS the program, and are having FEMA exercise the CBP program.

The program is not funded by FEMA at all, they are just the administrators.

Money is for the charities and NGOs...as Trump's and previous presidents from the other fund, no?

From your link,

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly, and humane release of non-citizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.

 

[struth]

This Shelter and Relief program, as it says in your headline to the link... Customs Border Protection i FUNDS the program, and are having FEMA exercise the CBP program.

The program is not funded by FEMA at all, they are just the administrators.

Money is for the charities and NGOs...as Trump's and previous presidents from the other fund, no?

From your link,

The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly, and humane release of non-citizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.

Yep, it cost FEMA to administer.

That’s an extra billion dollars that went to Thai that could have went to Americans but for harris and xiden’s surge resettlement

 

[MisterBeale]

A n d . . . Still not the disaster relief fund the right is lying about.

And after the initial disaster is all over? There will be no funds to help house homeless Americans, or organized food to feed them, whom the program was intended for.

All the funds will have been used for an agenda the program was not meant for.

Sorry homeless & starving Americans.

 

[Care4all]

Yep, it cost FEMA to administer.

That’s an extra billion dollars that went to Thai that could have went to Americans but for harris and xiden’s surge resettlement

Nope!

 

[Lisa558]

And after the initial disaster is all over? There will be no funds to help house homeless Americans, or organized food to feed them, whom the program was intended for.

All the funds will have been used for an agenda the program was not meant for.

Sorry homeless & starving Americans.

You’re sounding more and more like a Trump voter! Welcome to sanity.

When Trump gets back in, Gd-willing, the approximately $200 billion annually the illegals cost Americans will be spent instread on deporting them - and it won’t take nearly that much, either.

Property values in neighborhoods where the illegals settled will go back up…..the caliber of public schools will improve….lower-skilled Americans won’t have to compete with illegals for jobs….and rents will drop as the demand by illegals is gone.

And, of course, we will have money to help law-abiding Americans who have been devastated by a hurricane.

 

[Care4all]

And after the initial disaster is all over? There will be no funds to help house homeless Americans, or organized food to feed them, whom the program was intended for.

All the funds will have been used for an agenda the program was not meant for.

Sorry homeless & starving Americans.

All disaster relief funding is set aside in the disaster relief fund, a separate fund of FEMA, not connected to any other FEMA funding.....

FEMA disaster relief is funding still to this day, those hurt in the past few hurricanes....I believe they said 8 billion of the 20 B they got was to fund previous hurricane relief that was still on going... yesterday I heard $6 billion of FEMA disaster relief would be set aside for Helene home rebuilding down the road....

None of this disaster relief funding allocated by Congress can go to any other FEMA duties, programs, or projects....disaster relief is in a lock box, again, separate from normal FEMA funding.

 

[Lisa558]

All disaster relief funding is set aside in the disaster relief fund, a separate fund of FEMA, not connected to any other FEMA funding.....

FEMA disaster relief is funding still to this day, those hurt in the past few hurricanes....I believe they said 8 billion of the 20 B they got was to fund previous hurricane relief that was still on going... yesterday I heard $6 billion of FEMA disaster relief would be set aside for Helene home rebuilding down the road....

None of this disaster relief funding allocated by Congress can go to any other FEMA duties, programs, or projects....disaster relief is in a lock box, again, separate from normal FEMA funding.

Stop with the “separate fund” BS. The fact remains that if $1 billion hadn’t been allocated to put up homeless illegals, good American citizens devastated by these two hurricanes would have an additional $1 billion to help them rebuild their lives.

There should not be ONE red cent of taxpayer money going to help illegals while there are insufficient funds to help Americans.

 

[MisterBeale]

LOLOL

Aww, poor Dumbfuck. Still can't count to two.

Deflecting from his logical and sane comment with fallacies still doesn't counter what the truth is.

 

[struth]

Nope!

Nope what?? The links clearly show the cost, the link clearly shows it started during the Harris/Xiden admin, the link clearly shows FEMA was the one in charge of administering it/

 

[MisterBeale]

Stop with the “separate fund” BS. The fact remains that if $1 billion hadn’t been allocated to put up homeless illegals, good American citizens devastated by these two hurricanes would have an additional $1 billion to help them rebuild their lives.

There should not be ONE red cent of taxpayer money going to help illegals while there are insufficient funds to help Americans.

I dug into the auditing of this claim, and what it seems is that DHS has “reprogramming and transfer” authorities, and discretionary funding authority.

I could not, however, find any evidence that there was a transfer of funds from the Shelter and Services Program to the INF and DRF. (Immediate needs Funding and Disaster Relief Funding.

What it honestly looks like? Is the the Shelter and Services program makes an effort to legally re-categorize Illegal aliens as "refugees." One this occurs, the millions and millions of folks have that status, then they can tap into HUD funds, which is a completely different Administrative agency.

Refugees and Other Newcomer Populations

www.hud.gov

We're no longer even talking about DHS, but instead HHS.

But you are correct, the money game IS indeed a shell game. The folks that have the power will find a way to do what they want, just like the Trump administration did.

 

[MisterBeale]

None of this disaster relief funding allocated by Congress can go to any other FEMA duties, programs, or projects....disaster relief is in a lock box, again, separate from normal FEMA funding.

While I agree with most of what you said, and could find absolutely NO EVIDENCE, that funds were re-directed from the INF and DRF to the SSP? It IS NOT inaccurate to say the the Sec. of the DHS does not have “reprogramming and transfer” authorities, and "discretionary funding authorities."

There is no "lock-box," this is just political rhetoric, and I think you know this.

OTH? Most of the funding for illegals comes when they are made. . NO LONGER ILLEGAL, for the SSP declares them "refugees," and at that point, they are eligible for the same funds for assistance as American citizens through HUD.