"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[Marener]

My question for Quid Pro is, if he didn't know the documents were there, as some have been pantingly declaring as a defense, why did he not know it? If he is responsible for the classified documents, as I believe he is, it is on him to make sure they get put back where they belong. Not doing so is negligence and incompetence, and if done by a person lower on the totem pole, criminal. Personally, I would not be surprised if he did not know there were classified documents in his garage, but that's because I believe his mind has been permanently out to lunch for years now and he just didn't give a flying rat's patoot what happened to them.

Because there’s a difference in how a president or VP manages their day to day routine. They have staff to manage these details. Their times is exceedingly valuable and they aren’t going to be spending it trying to keep track of the many classified documents they’re working with on a daily basis.

That’s an honest opinion.

 

[miketx]

Odd, I thought you were a dem but rereading that mess I see that you felt compelled to run around Robin Hood's Barn three times to make your point.

Fair enough but short and concise gets it done a lot better.....Just sayin'.

No not at all, he just runs all over the fields and pastures though!

 

[struth]

So Trump’s defense is going to plead insanity then.

Because you’d have to be insane to think those documents were personal.

not at all Clinton (Bill) successfully argued that white house tapes were personal. Who would of thought tapes, from the White House recording device could be personal?

with that said, there will not be any need for an argument. Trumps case is obviously something were some classified material, which was packed in the orginal boxes, mixed with private stuff, was done by accident....it's not like he took the documents out of the packing, and placed them in his own file and labeled it "personal" - then hide it in closet in his office...

 

[hadit]

Because there’s a difference in how a president or VP manages their day to day routine. They have staff to manage these details. Their times is exceedingly valuable and they aren’t going to be spending it trying to keep track of the many classified documents they’re working with on a daily basis.

That’s an honest opinion.

All fine and dandy, but the buck stops with the guy behind the desk. If he has underlings handling the docs, it's still his responsibility to make sure they're handling them correctly. After all, we know who requested the documents, who transported the documents, and where they were transported to, so when he leaves office, it would seem to be a natural and mandatory step to go over the list of every document he has and make sure they get returned. Why was that not done when Quid Pro left office?

If the executive is too "busy" (what was that you were doing with Monica, Bubba Clinton?) to handle it himself, how hard would it be for him to task one of his people to contact the GSA, get a list of documents his people checked out, and make sure they get back where they're supposed to be? It bothers me a LOT that Quid Pro's negligence didn't raise an alert when documents went missing for 6 years and no one could find them until someone stumbled on them in Quid Pro's garage. Apparently, we knew TRUMP! had documents, why didn't we know Quid Pro had some, and which ones he had?

 

[struth]

All fine and dandy, but the buck stops with the guy behind the desk. If he has underlings handling the docs, it's still his responsibility to make sure they're handling them correctly. After all, we know who requested the documents, who transported the documents, and where they were transported to, so when he leaves office, it would seem to be a natural and mandatory step to go over the list of every document he has and make sure they get returned. Why was that not done when Quid Pro left office?

If the executive is too "busy" (what was that you were doing with Monica, Bubba Clinton?) to handle it himself, how hard would it be for him to task one of his people to contact the GSA, get a list of documents his people checked out, and make sure they get back where they're supposed to be? It bothers me a LOT that Quid Pro's negligence didn't raise an alert when documents went missing for 6 years and no one could find them until someone stumbled on them in Quid Pro's garage. Apparently, we knew TRUMP! had documents, why didn't we know Quid Pro had some, and which ones he had?

Dems love throwing people under the bus and ducking out of responsiblity for their actions.

 

[Marener]

not at all Clinton (Bill) successfully argued that white house tapes were personal. Who would of thought tapes, from the White House recording device could be personal?

with that said, there will not be any need for an argument. Trumps case is obviously something were some classified material, which was packed in the orginal boxes, mixed with private stuff, was done by accident....it's not like he took the documents out of the packing, and placed them in his own file and labeled it "personal" - then hide it in closet in his office...

You’d have to be insane to think that Trump’s documents were personal. Clinton’s tapes are meaningless. Try standing in front of a jury and claiming documents with TS/SCI prepared for you by the intelligence community to brief you on covert actions was actually a personal document.

Is that jury going to believe you?

 

[struth]

You’d have to be insane to think that Trump’s documents were personal. Clinton’s tapes are meaningless. Try standing in front of a jury and claiming documents with TS/SCI prepared for you by the intelligence community to brief you on covert actions was actually a personal document.

Is that jury going to believe you?

Clinton's tapes are meaningless...there is controlling case law on it.https://tennesseestar.com/2022/08/18/old-case-over-audio-tapes-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-mar-a-lago-search-dispute/

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch's suit by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.

But Jackson's ruling — along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.

As far as items mixed in with personal stuff, it's far easier to argue they were misplaced....then say in a seperate folder, you labeled "personal" and hiding in a closet in your personal office.

 

[Marener]

Clinton's tapes are meaningless...there is controlling case law on it.https://tennesseestar.com/2022/08/18/old-case-over-audio-tapes-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-mar-a-lago-search-dispute/

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch's suit by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.

But Jackson's ruling — along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.

As far as items mixed in with personal stuff, it's far easier to argue they were misplaced....then say in a seperate folder, you labeled "personal" and hiding in a closet in your personal office.

Controlling case law? That makes no sense. A district court decision doesn’t make precedent.

God you’re stupid.

And it’s entirely unrelated. You think you can convince a jury that Trump thought classified documents were personal?

 

[BWK]

not at all Clinton (Bill) successfully argued that white house tapes were personal. Who would of thought tapes, from the White House recording device could be personal?

with that said, there will not be any need for an argument. Trumps case is obviously something were some classified material, which was packed in the orginal boxes, mixed with private stuff, was done by accident....it's not like he took the documents out of the packing, and placed them in his own file and labeled it "personal" - then hide it in closet in his office...

WH tapes! Bill Clinton! Are we talking about Bill Clinton tapes or Trump's documents? Damn son, can you ever keep or maintain a coherent thought?

 

[BWK]

Clinton's tapes are meaningless...there is controlling case law on it.https://tennesseestar.com/2022/08/18/old-case-over-audio-tapes-in-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact-mar-a-lago-search-dispute/

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch's suit by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.

But Jackson's ruling — along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.

As far as items mixed in with personal stuff, it's far easier to argue they were misplaced....then say in a seperate folder, you labeled "personal" and hiding in a closet in your personal office.

Every post of yours is a lie. We already went through this. Who hid documents? Biden? How do you know? We've already done this before, and you got your ass kicked. Prove Biden hid documents?

 

[BWK]

Controlling case law? That makes no sense. A district court decision doesn’t make precedent.

God you’re stupid.

And it’s entirely unrelated. You think you can convince a jury that Trump thought classified documents were personal?

He is grade A retarded.

 

[struth]

Controlling case law? That makes no sense. A district court decision doesn’t make precedent.

God you’re stupid.

And it’s entirely unrelated. You think you can convince a jury that Trump thought classified documents were personal?

of course it does…the case was in DC, the NA would file there.

of course it’s related to the issue of personal v govt property

 

[struth]

WH tapes! Bill Clinton! Are we talking about Bill Clinton tapes or Trump's documents? Damn son, can you ever keep or maintain a coherent thought?

we are talking about property. critical thinking skills you lack

 

[BWK]

haha like when he stole top secret documents and got caught hiding them for six years???

Prove Biden stole documents?

 

[BWK]

they were. Only after an aid opened a file labeled personal was his crimes discovered

Prove this was a crime?

 

[BWK]

i’ve accept the results of all the prior special prosecutors. it’s dems still rejecting the mueller report


it’s Hur Time!!

The Mueller report said Trump could be prosecuted.

 

[Marener]

of course it does…the case was in DC, the NA would file there.

of course it’s related to the issue of personal v govt property

Controlling precedent only works downward.

SCOTUS decisions control appeals court. Appeals court control district court. A district court can’t control another district court.

You truly have no idea what you’re talking about.

There can be no mistake that Trump’s classified documents are personal. It’s defies any logic. No jury would accept that pathetic argument. These are documents prepared by the government agencies for use by the government. This isn’t even an argument between personal record and presidential record. These are agency documents.

The jury wouldn’t accept such an insane argument. You might as well try to argue the sky is green.

 

[BWK]

we really won’t know until xiden releases his corp tax returns.

we know he lied about discussing foreign deals with hunter, we know he stole classified documents dealing with some countries he was dealing with…a lot of smoke

we know he lied about discussing foreign deals with hunter, Where is your proof?

 

[BWK]

Xiden purposely keep the documents hidden for 6 years in a unsecured office that the Chinese paid for. Trump keep in contact with the NA, and was actively working with them to ensure they got what they wanted, and he was able to keep what was personal. These documents were in his personal compound, guarded by armed federal agents, and the NA had complete access to them. Moreover, the location Trump's documents were, was a location that had a SCIF onsite, so it wasn't a surprise to have top secret documents there. Unlike Xiden's Chineses funded office, where someone had to have taken these highly classified documents to, and they had no business ever being at.

Xiden purposely keep the documents hidden for 6 years in a unsecured office that the Chinese paid for. Proof?

 

[Marener]

He is grade A retarded.

He also claimed to be a lawyer who has argued dozens of cases in federal court but demonstrates very little knowledge of the judicial system.