"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[Indeependent]

Trump said in his own words they were his. Lawyers for former President Donald Trump are arguing that hundreds of documents that the FBI seized from his Florida residence are “personal” because he said so.

And no one said Biden is allowed to take documents. That's your invention. His lawyers packed them. So what makes you think Biden knowingly took them? Exactly, you don't think that, because you are clueless.

Trump was President, JB, as VP, committed a crime and all your posts can’t change that fact.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I know you dont believe it, but its true. He can declassify at will. Every president can. These are legal sources below, not political.


The U.S. classification system has three levels: top secret, secret and confidential.
“That is based on the level of damage that its release would cause to the national security of the United States,” Kel McClanahan, executive director of the National Security Counselors, said. “When you classify a document, that means that only people with a security clearance equal to the classification or higher can read it.”
A sitting U.S. president has wide-ranging authority to classify and declassify certain documents, but former presidents do not have authority over classification and declassification.
Current presidents can classify documents as long as they can “make a plausible argument that it is related to national security.” On the other hand, the president “doesn’t have to give any reason for declassifying” information, according to McClanahan.
“He can just say, ‘I decide that this should be declassified,’ and it’s declassified,” McClanahan said

Yes, the president can declassify documents, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow

Former President Trump claimed documents found at Mar-a-Lago were “all declassified.” We explain why sitting presidents can declassify documents and how it works.

www.verifythis.com

ABA Fact Check: Extent of Presidential Legal Authority to Declassify Materials Is Still Unclear

Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president’s suggestion that while in office he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But in theory, legal guidelines support his contention that a president has broad authority to formally declassify most documents that...

lawandcrime.com

Don’t Dismiss Trump’s Assertion of Presidential Power to Declassify Information

The country is focused on the Jan. 6 committee’s criminal referral of former President Trump to the Department of Justice (DOJ) for four alleged crimes, including inciting and abetting an insurrection. But Trump’s decision to stash classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence continues to be...

www.aei.org

you're a fuckin weirdo

please seek help before you hurt yourself or others

 

[Godboy]

Biden turned his over. Trump refused.

If Trump had just turned them over when NARA told him, it wouldn’t have been a big deal. He should have done what Biden is doing. We never would be having this conversation.

Like so many Trump scandals, this is just so colossally stupid. Trump really needs to be protected from himself.

Why do you guys keep saying Biden turned his over? That isnt what happened at all. Is honesty impossible in 2023?

 

[Missourian]

Trump is under investigations by state and federal bodies.

Joe Biden is not

Why not?

 

[Godboy]

you're a fuckin weirdo

please seek help before you hurt yourself or others

How so? What is so weird about legal websites discussing law? It seems like you cant handle the idea that you are wrong on this one. You were likely completely convinced by left wing media that Trump cant declassify documents like that. They are not serving you guys well these days. This post isnt meant to be condescending either.

 

[Billiejeens]

How so? What is so weird about legal websites discussing law? It seems like you cant handle the idea that you are wrong on this one. You were likely completely convinced by left wing media that Trump cant declassify documents like that.

Everyone
So far.

 

[Marener]

Why do you guys keep saying Biden turned his over? That isnt what happened at all. Is honesty impossible in 2023?

Reporting says otherwise.

NARA didn’t request them. DoJ didn’t request them. No search warrant needed.

 

[Godboy]

Reporting says otherwise.

NARA didn’t request them. DoJ didn’t request them. No search warrant needed.

Ok, i guess i have to lead you on this one. Who reported it?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Id he committed perjury .. he should face consequences.

*And false statements to the DOJ. Also a felony.

And there is no "if", there.

Why hasn't that happened?

Because the special prosecutor was appointed only two months ago.

How does the investigation know when and how he may have declassified the documents?

Yu will probably have to wait for the trial for that. All we know is that they did know. So it's a safe bet that they know now as well.

 

[Marener]

Ok, i guess i have to lead you on this one. Who reported it?

Biden’s lawyers.

 

[Godboy]

Biden’s lawyers.

Actually it was his lawyer, singular. OK, who found it? Same guy, right? So a guy found them and reported it. Where is Biden in this picture?

 

[Marener]

Actually it was his lawyer, singular. OK, who found it?

Last I read it was his lawyer.

 

[g5000]

Irrelevant .. Did Biden have classified information stored in the "irresponsible" manner he described? Not once .. but twice in two different locations?

By contrast, in 2021 the archives repeatedly asked Mr. Trump to turn over large numbers of documents it had determined were missing. He put the agency off for months, then allowed it to retrieve 15 boxes of material in early 2022, including scores of classified documents, but it was later discovered that he kept more.

 

[jotathought]

*And false statements to the DOJ. Also a felony.

And there is no "if", there.




Because the special prosecutor was appointed only two months ago.

Yu will probably have to wait for the trial for that. All we know is that they did know. So it's a safe bet that they know now as well.

So .. they "got him this time?" right? just like the other 8 - 10 attempts?

 

[Godboy]

Last I read it was his lawyer.

He found it and reported it. Biden wasnt part of the equation. I can actually logically prove it too, as long as you are honest.

The guy called a department in the White House. I dont remember which one, but it was one of them. He didnt call Biden first because, if he had, he could have easily slipped those documents into his briefcase and hand delivered them to Biden, or burned them. That is assuming he is a shady lawyer.

It seems obvious that he is not a shady lawyer though. He probably didnt want to cover up a crime, so he did everything by the book to protect himself. He knows this is bad for Biden, yet he alerted the entire White House instead of keeping it quiet.

Does this seem logical and correct to you?

 

[jotathought]

By contrast, in 2021 the archives repeatedly asked Mr. Trump to turn over large numbers of documents it had determined were missing. He put the agency off for months, then allowed it to retrieve 15 boxes of material in early 2022, including scores of classified documents, but it was later discovered that he kept more.

Completely irrelevant. Did Trump have classified material in a private setting? Did Biden have classified material in a private setting? Could Trump declassify the documentation? Could Biden do the same?

It doesn't matter how much, how many, etc .. etc .. If stowing classified material is a criminal activity .. 1 document is enough (although Biden has done this on two different occasions) to be considered, as Biden stated, irresponsible.

 

[2aguy]

His lawyers informed him of the issue and agreed to ultimately return them to the NA.

Like if you want to pretend it’s because Biden is senile so he forgot, you would still have to acknowledge he didn’t know they were there lol

It doesnt matter....those records make him a felon

 

[Marener]

He found it and reported it. Biden wasnt part of the equation. I can actually logically prove it too, as long as you are honest.

The guy called a department in the White House. I dont remember which one, but it was one of them. He didnt call Biden first because, if he had, he could have easily slipped those documents into his briefcase and hand delivered them to Biden, or burn them. That is assuming he is a shady lawyer.

It seems obvious that he is not a shady lawyer though. He probably didnt want to cover up a crime, so he did everything by the book to protect himself. He knows this is bad for Biden, yet he alerted the entire White House instead of keeping it quiet.

Does this seem logical and correct to you?

Do you have anything other than your assumptions based on deep seated bias?

A lawyer working for a client doesn’t do anything without their consent. Claiming Biden wasn’t involved is very unlikely.

 

[jotathought]

He found it and reported it. Biden wasnt part of the equation. I can actually logically prove it too, as long as you are honest.

The guy called a department in the White House. I dont remember which one, but it was one of them. He didnt call Biden first because, if he had, he could have easily slipped those documents into his briefcase and hand delivered them to Biden, or burn them. That is assuming he is a shady lawyer.

It seems obvious that he is not a shady lawyer though. He probably didnt want to cover up a crime, so he did everything by the book to protect himself. He knows this is bad for Biden, yet he alerted the entire White House instead of keeping it quiet.

Does this seem logical and correct to you?

Irrelevant .. if someone commits a supposed crime, and keeps it quiet vs. making it public .. the infraction and irresponsibility is still the same. The difference is .. does the individual have any influence into the status of the materials .. (eg removing classification of documents)?

 

[Indeependent]

you're a fuckin weirdo

please seek help before you hurt yourself or others

You're illiterate or mentally ill.