Biden's "American Rescue Plan" monetizes crime.

[Tyrion234]

I can get all the drug of alcohol I want without yer fucked up reasoning.

It shows

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is that why crime is near a 50 year low?

If Your Time is short​

• The FBI’s violent crime rate for 2022, the last year officially available, was 370 violent crimes per 100,000 population. Since 1972, only two years have had a lower violent crime rate: 2014 and 2019.
• Preliminary estimates for 2023 show the violent crime rate continuing to fall. If that is replicated in the final FBI data, 2023 will become the lowest year for the violent crime rate in 50 years.
• Biden is correct that violent crime is near a 50-year low
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• What the data says about crime in the U.S.
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Is that why crime is near a 50 year low?

You don't actually believe that, do you?

 

[dudmuck]

yeah, those prisons are empty, not.

 

[westwall]

Is that why crime is near a 50 year low?

If Your Time is short​

• The FBI’s violent crime rate for 2022, the last year officially available, was 370 violent crimes per 100,000 population. Since 1972, only two years have had a lower violent crime rate: 2014 and 2019.
• Preliminary estimates for 2023 show the violent crime rate continuing to fall. If that is replicated in the final FBI data, 2023 will become the lowest year for the violent crime rate in 50 years.
• Biden is correct that violent crime is near a 50-year low
• View attachment 998740
• What the data says about crime in the U.S.
• View attachment 998741

Ummmm, the crime rate is "down" because the major cities aren't reporting it any longer.

So, it isn't down, they just no longer report how bad it is....because it's bad.

See how dishonest they are?

No?

Too dishonest to admit it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, those violent bookkeeping misdemeanors, making it dangerous to walk the streets.

 

[dudmuck]

Yeah, those violent bookkeeping misdemeanors, making it dangerous to walk the streets.

when business records fraud is used in furtherance of another crime, it becomes a felony

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

when business records fraud is used in furtherance of another crime, it becomes a felony

Sorry, but "influencing" an election still isn't a crime.

 

[dudmuck]

Sorry, but "influencing" an election still isn't a crime.

campaign contributions over the limit is a crime. $130k exceeds this limit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

campaign contributions over the limit is a crime. $130k exceeds this limit.

There was no campaign contribution.

 

[dudmuck]

There was no campaign contribution.

Michael Cohen made the contribution, then plead guilty for it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Michael Cohen made the contribution, then plead guilty for it.

He made no contribution to the campaign.
He pled guilty to it so they'd reduce his sentence for his real crimes.

 

[dudmuck]

He made no contribution to the campaign.
He pled guilty to it so they'd reduce his sentence for his real crimes.

it says right here $280k in campaign contributions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

it says right here $280k in campaign contributions.

He wrote checks to the Trump campaign? I don't believe you.

 

[dudmuck]

He wrote checks to the Trump campaign? I don't believe you.

i dont expect you to believe me, thats why i provided a link to the US DOJ.
The prosecutors are to ones who are saying Cohen made illegal campaign contributions.

laws broken by making these payments in an effort to hide unflattering information before the 2016 election.
Cohen admitted to this, along with National Enquirer’s parent company, American Media Inc

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

i dont expect you to believe me, thats why i provided a link to the US DOJ.
The prosecutors are to ones who are saying Cohen made illegal campaign contributions.

laws broken by making these payments in an effort to hide unflattering information before the 2016 election.
Cohen admitted to this, along with National Enquirer’s parent company, American Media Inc

The prosecutors are to ones who are saying Cohen made illegal campaign contributions.

Right.
Because making payments that aren't campaign contributions are obviously campaign contributions.

laws broken by making these payments in an effort to hide unflattering information before the 2016 election.

It's never been illegal to hide unflattering info.

Cohen admitted to this,

Of course he did, to reduce his sentence for his real crime, cheating the IRS out of $4 million.

along with National Enquirer’s parent company, American Media Inc

I know.

When are CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, WAPO, NYT et al going to admit they hid unflattering info?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Those living in 'flyover' country. Rich republicans would suffer under a perpetual Democrat government. Pure democracy would lead to the biggest transfer of wealth and power the world has ever known. There would be massive poverty as nearly half the country would be disenfranchised. Identity politics would reign. It would be similar to the Biblical "mark of the beast".

But that's because you don't understand what I'm talking about.

In Germany they have PR and they don't have a "perpetual left wing government", in fact for the better part of two decades they had the conservative Merkal in charge.

Half the country is already disenfranchised, because they don't want to vote Rep or Dem. With PR they'd have MORE CHOICE, MORE OVERSIGHT and political parties would be more easily kicked out.

But then I've lived in Germany, studied the political system, seen how it's worked for a long time. You've never even bothered to look at it. How could I be right in the face of such ignorance?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But that's because you don't understand what I'm talking about.

In Germany they have PR and they don't have a "perpetual left wing government", in fact for the better part of two decades they had the conservative Merkal in charge.

Half the country is already disenfranchised, because they don't want to vote Rep or Dem. With PR they'd have MORE CHOICE, MORE OVERSIGHT and political parties would be more easily kicked out.

But then I've lived in Germany, studied the political system, seen how it's worked for a long time. You've never even bothered to look at it. How could I be right in the face of such ignorance?

Merkel was conservative? LOL!

 

[Woodznutz]

But that's because you don't understand what I'm talking about.

In Germany they have PR and they don't have a "perpetual left wing government", in fact for the better part of two decades they had the conservative Merkal in charge.

Half the country is already disenfranchised, because they don't want to vote Rep or Dem. With PR they'd have MORE CHOICE, MORE OVERSIGHT and political parties would be more easily kicked out.

But then I've lived in Germany, studied the political system, seen how it's worked for a long time. You've never even bothered to look at it. How could I be right in the face of such ignorance?

I'm concerned about America, not Germany.

 

[dudmuck]

The prosecutors are to ones who are saying Cohen made illegal campaign contributions.

Right.
Because making payments that aren't campaign contributions are obviously campaign contributions.

laws broken by making these payments in an effort to hide unflattering information before the 2016 election.

It's never been illegal to hide unflattering info.

Cohen admitted to this,

Of course he did, to reduce his sentence for his real crime, cheating the IRS out of $4 million.

along with National Enquirer’s parent company, American Media Inc

I know.

When are CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, WAPO, NYT et al going to admit they hid unflattering info?

the media cant hide info because we have freedom of the press. There is always another media company to publish a story . I wonder why Trump's lawyers didn't use such genius defense? Because its a bullshit defense. You would get laughed out of court.

Cohen pleaded guilty to a violation of federal campaign finance law and trump violated New York Election Law § 17.152. Guilty and went to jail for it. If you know more about law than these lawyers, youve got another thing coming.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I'm concerned about America, not Germany.

What a great way to stay ignorant.

If you're concerned about the US, you will what works and what doesn't work. You can't see whether it works in the US, because it doesn't exist. So we have examples of where it does work.

Germany's is the best because they vote FPTP and PR on the same day, same voters, and they get massively different results. So we can see there will be a difference between FPTP and PR in the US.

But no, I mentioned Germany, so you shut down and put you head in the sand, fingers in your ears and shout "lalalala"

But I'm not surprised. This conversation is no different to any other we've had.