Biden Warns Israel To Stop Bragging About Disabling Iran Nuclear Facility

[Anomalism]

We give them money and force them to use the money we give them on military equipment from U.S. defense companies.

Right. So we're helping to fund their military.

 

[fncceo]

I think Israel would be in real danger without our support.

During Israel's first three wars with the Arabs, Israel was vastly outnumbered and out-gunned by Arab States dedicated to "Driving the Jews Into the Sea".

During that period, from 1948 to 1967, Israel was under a total arms blockage from most countries, including the US.

They managed to not only survive, but annihilate the Arab Forces and create their own, highly successful cottage arms and aerospace industries.

 

[Rocko]

They’re a sovereign nation.

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too.

Well they’re not.


There is no country that is obligated to obey every command we give them.

 

[task0778]

Nominated for dumbass post of the day. Care to offer any logic behind that statement? I see no reason why Israel or ANY other nation should be subordinate to us or anyone else.

We could start with the fact that our support is the only reason they are able to exist. Does that go for Iran too by the way? Do they get to make their nukes because nations shouldn't be subordinate to one another?

Just because we give Israel foreign aid does mean they owe us anything in return, and certainly not subservience (unquestioned obedience). There are reasons why we support them, but that ain't one of them. And I would not agree that Israel would not exit if we didn't support them. We don't give them that much support.

 

[fncceo]

We give them money and force them to use the money we give them on military equipment from U.S. defense companies.

Right. So we're helping to fund their military.

The US provides arms to Israel for the same reason that Nike gives free sneakers to Michael Jordan. If Israel is seen to be using US weapons ... the rest of the world will want them too.

 

[Anomalism]

Nominated for dumbass post of the day. Care to offer any logic behind that statement? I see no reason why Israel or ANY other nation should be subordinate to us or anyone else.

We could start with the fact that our support is the only reason they are able to exist. Does that go for Iran too by the way? Do they get to make their nukes because nations shouldn't be subordinate to one another?

Just because we give Israel foreign aid does mean they owe us anything in return, and certainly not subservience (unquestioned obedience). There are reasons why we support them, but that ain't one of them. And I would not agree that Israel would not exit if we didn't support them. We don't give them that much support.

You people have your feathers ruffled because Israel got criticized by a U.S president. Fuck that.

 

[task0778]

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too. And I certainly don't have an issue with the president criticizing them. I don't want to take away their sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not mesh with subservience, Israel should make it's own decisions for the good of their people rather than ours. Perhaps you chose the wrong word.

 

[Anomalism]

They’re a sovereign nation.

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too.

Well they’re not.


There is no country that is obligated to obey every command we give them.

Yeah that's not exactly what I meant, but whatever. It shouldn't be controversial for the U.S to criticize them or provide feedback on their actions.

 

[fncceo]

Nominated for dumbass post of the day. Care to offer any logic behind that statement? I see no reason why Israel or ANY other nation should be subordinate to us or anyone else.

We could start with the fact that our support is the only reason they are able to exist. Does that go for Iran too by the way? Do they get to make their nukes because nations shouldn't be subordinate to one another?

Just because we give Israel foreign aid does mean they owe us anything in return, and certainly not subservience (unquestioned obedience). There are reasons why we support them, but that ain't one of them. And I would not agree that Israel would not exit if we didn't support them. We don't give them that much support.

Up until the Obama Administration, the CIA was working closely with Israel to keep the Iranian nuclear weapons program in check through sabotage and 'other' methods.

The Stuxnet Virus was a beautiful example. Introduced into the networked computers of Iranian nuclear facilities through porn (HA!). The virus worked it's way into the control code for the centrifuges, causing them to spin out of control and destroy themselves.

 

[fncceo]

You people have your feathers ruffled because Israel got criticized by a U.S president. Fuck that.

What do you mean, You People?

 

[Anomalism]

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too. And I certainly don't have an issue with the president criticizing them. I don't want to take away their sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not mesh with subservience, Israel should make it's own decisions for the good of their people rather than ours.

Iran too?

 

[Anomalism]

You people have your feathers ruffled because Israel got criticized by a U.S president. Fuck that.

What do you mean, You People?

Whoever would whine that Israel was criticized by a U.S president.

 

[Anomalism]

We give them money and force them to use the money we give them on military equipment from U.S. defense companies.

Right. So we're helping to fund their military.

The US provides arms to Israel for the same reason that Nike gives free sneakers to Michael Jordan. If Israel is seen to be using US weapons ... the rest of the world will want them too.

I bolded the relevant part.

 

[task0778]

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too. And I certainly don't have an issue with the president criticizing them. I don't want to take away their sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not mesh with subservience, Israel should make it's own decisions for the good of their people rather than ours.

Iran too?

Yea, with the caveat that destroying some other country is an unacceptable decision/action for doing what's best for your people. In Iran's case, they should have the right and the autonomy to build nuclear reactors for peaceful domestic use. But that's not what they're doing, they want to build nuclear weapons and they are enriching nuclear material to near weapons-grade levels. Given their propensity to support terrorism around the world and their near fanatical obsession to destroy Israel, it is not unreasonable to suppose if and when they ever do create nukes that they will use them or give them to some people who will use them. It's hard to blame Israel IMHO for trying avoid a nuclear attack from Iran or one of it's acolytes.

 

[Rocko]

They’re a sovereign nation.

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too.

Well they’re not.


There is no country that is obligated to obey every command we give them.

Yeah that's not exactly what I meant, but whatever. It shouldn't be controversial for the U.S to criticize them or provide feedback on their actions.

Well you did say Israel is subordinate to us, so what did you mean by that if you didn’t mean they should do as we tell?

Biden can criticize whatever country he wants, but i have a right to criticize him if i feel that the criticism is unwarranted.

Listen basically you’re wrong.

 

[Anomalism]

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too. And I certainly don't have an issue with the president criticizing them. I don't want to take away their sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not mesh with subservience, Israel should make it's own decisions for the good of their people rather than ours.

Iran too?

Yea, with the caveat that destroying some other country is an unacceptable decision/action for doing what's best for your people. In Iran's case, they should have the right and the autonomy to build nuclear reactors for peaceful domestic use. But that's not what they're doing, they want to build nuclear weapons and they are enriching nuclear material to near weapons-grade levels. Given their propensity to support terrorism around the world and their near fanatical obsession to destroy Israel, it is not unreasonable to suppose if and when they ever do create nukes that they will use them or give them to some people who will use them. It's hard to blame Israel IMHO for trying avoid a nuclear attack from Iran or one of it's acolytes.

I don't blame Israel at all. I just think they should be thankful for and respectful to us. I think when our president shoots criticism their way they should listen.

 

[Esdraelon]

Biden Warns Israel To Stop Bragging About Disabling Iran Nuclear Facility​

Or...?

Exactly. Obama should probably ponder this quest well. When a country and its people are wide awake to what REAL EVIL looks like, they just may hurt a politician's feelings.

 

[skye]

So is Iran. I want them to listen to us too. And I certainly don't have an issue with the president criticizing them. I don't want to take away their sovereignty.

Sovereignty does not mesh with subservience, Israel should make it's own decisions for the good of their people rather than ours.

Iran too?

Yea, with the caveat that destroying some other country is an unacceptable decision/action for doing what's best for your people. In Iran's case, they should have the right and the autonomy to build nuclear reactors for peaceful domestic use. But that's not what they're doing, they want to build nuclear weapons and they are enriching nuclear material to near weapons-grade levels. Given their propensity to support terrorism around the world and their near fanatical obsession to destroy Israel, it is not unreasonable to suppose if and when they ever do create nukes that they will use them or give them to some people who will use them. It's hard to blame Israel IMHO for trying avoid a nuclear attack from Iran or one of it's acolytes.

I don't blame Israel at all. I just think they should be thankful for and respectful to us. I think when our president shoots criticism their way they should listen.

Sure, sure.

But the thing is...

Joke Biden is only a Fake President and the world knows it!

You should know it too.

 

[Anomalism]

Well you did say Israel is subordinate to us

That's not actually what I said but I think I know what you mean. I clarified, so if you're too much of a pedant to move on from there I don't have much else to say.

 

[fncceo]

I just think they should be thankful for and respectful to us.

You mean, like the rest of the world?