Biden Government: Free Thinking Citizens We Don’t Control Are a Terrorist Threat

[LordBrownTrout]

You know that's not even possible right? Do you have any idea the amount of just storage space you would need to collect and store information on even a fraction of all the electronic data transfers that happen? Not to mention the computing power it would take to parse through that data in order to make it useful? BTW what Dept are you talking about?

This is just one collection center. Yeah, they have the capability and have been doing this for years now.

NSA Utah Data Center - Serving Our Nation's Intelligence Community

 

[Couchpotato]

Snowden showed it was not. The government may or may not have known what to do with all the info but that isn't the point. They were illegally, unconstitutionally, spying on everyone and was willing to lie about it under oath. (and nothing was done to Clapper for doing that).




Even if it is today, it may not be tomorrow. And as I said, even if they could not use it all, it is unconstitutional.

No, he didn't, and no they weren't. It will never be possible. The storage and computing power will never catch up to the amount of data being sent because the data being sent will increase in proportion to the storage and computing capacity we build. Likely it will increase at a greater rate. What you're talking about having happened is literally impossible. IMPOSSIBLE! Doesn't matter how much you want to believe it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You honestly think no record exists of what you bought on March 4 2012 with your credit card? Who you called June 8 2016?

Naive useful idiot.

A lot of people are this naive and still think the govt has their best interests.

 

[pknopp]

No, he didn't, and no they weren't. It will never be possible. The storage and computing power will never catch up to the amount of data being sent because the data being sent will increase in proportion to the storage and computing capacity we build. Likely it will increase at a greater rate. What you're talking about having happened is literally impossible. IMPOSSIBLE! Doesn't matter how much you want to believe it.

NSA surveillance exposed by Snowden was illegal, court rules seven years on

This is why I did not initially reply to you. You keep on arguing that the government couldn't do something despite they did.

 

[Couchpotato]

This is just one collection center. Yeah, they have the capability and have been doing this for years now.

NSA Utah Data Center - Serving Our Nation's Intelligence Community

You know that's not an actual .gov website right?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Heck, the govt doesn't even need to spy on people now. They just go that person's social media site and they got all they need.

 

[Couchpotato]

This is just one collection center. Yeah, they have the capability and have been doing this for years now.

NSA Utah Data Center - Serving Our Nation's Intelligence Community

I never said that NSA wasn't collecting some data. You idiots were making the claim that they were gobbling up all the data ever, which isn't even close to what was happening.

 

[BlindBoo]

Branding dissenters and critics as "domestic terrorist" is another indication that the Democrat Party is a dangerous totalitarian cult.
This is the sort of chit that Mao and Stalin did.

Where as the entire Neo-GOP claiming multi-state fraud because, "Donnie said so" is much more like Mao and Stalin than anything the democrats have done in the last 70 years.

 

[Couchpotato]

In 2011 the entire human race had only stored 295 Exabytes since 1986.

Scientists calculate total data stored to date: 295+ exabytes

Scientists at the University of California released a report showing that as of 2007, the world had stored 295 exabytes of data, and that data storage has grown 23% annually since 1986.

www.computerworld.com

In 2021 79 zetabytes (1000 exabytes) were created, copied, captured and consumed.

Data growth worldwide 2010-2025 | Statista

The total global volume of data is set to explode over the coming years, amounting to an expected 181 zetabytes by 2025, up from just two zetabytes in 2010.

www.statista.com

Tell me again how NSA/US Government is gobbling up all this data and storing it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Not held by the Government no. Again. Physical realities of the storage it would take to do that for every person in the US make that untenable. Not to mention the fact that the agency that was doing that work primarily is tasked with monitoring the rest of the world so there's that. How many people do you think work at NSA?

Yes, you really are stupid enough to believe the government isn’t looking at your bank or phone records at will.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Stasi (aka Homeland Security) on freethinking citizens they can’t control:

“The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM) introduced and/or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence.”

I’m so old I remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism.

National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin - February 07, 2022 | Homeland Security

www.dhs.gov

The government spends some of their time hiding their criminal acts....and the rest of their time trying to prevent us from talking about it.
Speech is terrorism to our criminal government.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes, you really are stupid enough to believe the government isn’t looking at your bank or phone records at will.

That's not what's being discussed. The Government's ability to subpoena records is a huge difference than it's ability to collect all the data being transmitted ever.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No Im smart enough to know that it's not possible even if it were their desire.

Yes, nobody can hack into anything!
Useful idiot.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes, nobody can hack into anything!
Useful idiot.

What are you talking about? How does hacking into a network have anything to do with the ability to collect and store all the data that resides on it and travels across it? All the networks could be wide open, NSA/USG could have unfettered access to all the networks, and it wouldn't matter. It's just too much data. We don't possess the ability to store it all. Just the amount of storage it would take to record all voice phone calls in one day across the US would likely break the system, and that's just a fraction of the amount of data that would have to be stored. And then who would go through all that shit? Even if you were just using the metadata to parse through it to see which calls you wanted to actually listen to it would crush our computing power to do that. There are more than 6 billion cell phone calls made per day in the US alone. Every day. Just on cell phones. That doesnt include texts, twitter, instagram, facebook, streaming netflix etc. 108 million CC transactions happen every day again just in the US and those are just the CC transactions. Where do you think the US government is storing all this data?

 

[munkle]

How many violations of the First Amendment are contained in one paragraph?

 

[frigidweirdo]

How many violations of the First Amendment are contained in one paragraph?

The reality is, that in order for the US to save itself, it needs to be aware of what countries like China and Russia are doing, and even what Americans are doing which jeopardize the US as an institution.

The other reality is that the First Amendment is not absolute. If you endanger the US, your speech is NOT PROTECTED.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The reality is, that in order for the US to save itself, it needs to be aware of what countries like China and Russia are doing, and even what Americans are doing which jeopardize the US as an institution.

The other reality is that the First Amendment is not absolute. If you endanger the US, your speech is NOT PROTECTED.

Publicly disagreeing with blatant, outright lies being spread by government, doe not constitute endangering the US.

The very most important point of the First Amendment's affirmation of freedom for speech is very specifically to protect the right to publicly disagree with the government. This is most important in times like these, where we have government so blatantly spreading dangerous, harmful falsehoods, and attempting to suppress and censor anyone who dares to call them out on it.

 

[sparky]

So now we're all domestic terrorists????

~S~

 

[sparky]

How many violations of the First Amendment are contained in one paragraph?

Munk, where did you get this??

~S~

 

[bugs]

The Stasi (aka Homeland Security) on freethinking citizens they can’t control:

“The United States remains in a heightened threat environment fueled by several factors, including an online environment filled with false or misleading narratives and conspiracy theories, and other forms of mis- dis- and mal-information (MDM) introduced and/or amplified by foreign and domestic threat actors. These threat actors seek to exacerbate societal friction to sow discord and undermine public trust in government institutions to encourage unrest, which could potentially inspire acts of violence.”

I’m so old I remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism.

National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin - February 07, 2022 | Homeland Security

www.dhs.gov

Um.. THEY are a Little Late as I have Not Trusted our Government since I was in the u.s. Navy in 91'