Biden fearful of how Black Hawk Down moment might make him look

[CowboyTed]

Trump has been out of office for almost 8 months. This is Biden's screw up. Even other countries say so. You know the ones you were worried about what they thought about us under Trump.

Don't worry other countries know that Biden did not create this mess and said so clearly already...

Biden has been office for 7 months by the way...

Anyway with the hands Biden was dealt what could he do...

Trumnp has to take responibility for totally gutting the refugee process... It was practically non existent when Biden came in...

As usual, certain people are giving out that Biden didn't fix Trump's mistakes fast enough...

Deja vu, They complained that Obama didn't fix Bush's problems fast enough either....

Real Question why have a fuck up like Trump in tin the first place...

Trump only brought in 600 refugees from Afghanistan in 2020... How many was Biden meant to bring in in 12 weeks?

Biden has brought in over 20,000 in three weeks...

Again doing shit Trump was capable of doing...

 

[CowboyTed]

Trump also left 2500 troops to make sure everything went smoothly and after Biden did what he does. It is taking 6000 troops to do it. When biden screws the pooch, he really screws the pooch!

Yea, 2500 troops to :
Protect the Embassy
Run Bagram base
Security for embassy staff
Oh and there was 70,000 troops invading..

Everything is going so smooth... Biden needed 6000 troops for the evacuation of US Citizens and Friendlies...

That just shows you what Trump was thinking... Bring back the Troops by Christmas and fuck the rest...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Anyway with the hands Biden was dealt what could he do...

Not pulled the troops and closed Bagram before civilians were evacuated.

He had 7 months to plan it.....did he forget?

 

[Nostra]

Please tell us the monitoring and enforcement mechanism of the agreement from the US side on the Taliban... There is no proof of Taliban breaking the agreement...

Remeber Biden had little leverage in an agreement unless he was willing to put 10s of thousands of troops back into Afghanistan..

Please tell us Biden's choices... Everything comes with consequences...

You have been told his choices several times. Get everyone else out before the troops, not the other way around.

 

[jknowgood]

Don't worry other countries know that Biden did not create this mess and said so clearly already...

Biden has been office for 7 months by the way...

Anyway with the hands Biden was dealt what could he do...

Trumnp has to take responibility for totally gutting the refugee process... It was practically non existent when Biden came in...

As usual, certain people are giving out that Biden didn't fix Trump's mistakes fast enough...

Deja vu, They complained that Obama didn't fix Bush's problems fast enough either....

Real Question why have a fuck up like Trump in tin the first place...

Trump only brought in 600 refugees from Afghanistan in 2020... How many was Biden meant to bring in in 12 weeks?

Biden has brought in over 20,000 in three weeks...

Again doing shit Trump was capable of doing...

Like I said, Biden owns this mess. Trump handed a smooth plan to get out and Biden did the opposite.

 

[Nostra]

The Taliban basically had to sign a pledge saying it wouldn’t harbor terrorists. Nowhere did the Taliban have to — nor did it choose to — denounce al-Qaeda, the terrorist group that launched the 9/11 attacks from Afghanistan, Miller writes.
The biggest tangible commitment from the Taliban looked like this: For seven days before the deal was signed, its leaders significantly reduced their attacks on Afghan forces to show they were capable of controlling the group across the country. But the deal didn’t require that the Taliban stop its attacks against Afghan security forces.
Overall, it was a pretty good deal for the Taliban, critics said. “Trump all but assured the future course of events would reflect the Taliban’s interests far more than the United States’,” Miller writes. H.R., McMaster, Trump’s second national security adviser, has recently called it “a surrender agreement with the Taliban.” Another member of Trump’s National Security Council said it was “a very weak agreement.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/20/trump-peace-deal-taliban/

The deal was shit... Biden stuck by it because he had next to no leverage in negotiations... Biden wasn't going to tell the US people that they werer going to plough 50,000 troops into a country which locals weren't even will to defend... Taliban would know that too... Why would taliban agree to anything more than they are doing today... Let the foreigners go...

Biden didn’t stick to it. That’s a lie.

 

[jknowgood]

Yea, 2500 troops to :
Protect the Embassy
Run Bagram base
Security for embassy staff
Oh and there was 70,000 troops invading..

Everything is going so smooth... Biden needed 6000 troops for the evacuation of US Citizens and Friendlies...

That just shows you what Trump was thinking... Bring back the Troops by Christmas and fuck the rest...

Trump has nothing to do with it.

 

[Nostra]

Biden says flights out of Afghanistan resume, pledges to get all Americans out

Biden told ABC he may extend the Aug. 31 deadline for a full troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.

www.cnbc.com

Biden is getting a lot out right now...

But these are people Trump failed to get out and he had a lot more time...

Stephen Miller stopped the Afghans coming to America... Miller has boasted about this on Fox...

The US Citizens choose to stay... Please tell us how Biden could force them to come to America... These people now want to leave when Taliban came to the city..

The Regime keeps throwing out a total number for all countries, and private planes. They never give a number of Americans, which has been reported to be less tha 10% of the total.

Thousands will be left behind by Surrender Joe to be raped, tortured, and killed.

 

[Nostra]

Yea, 2500 troops to :
Protect the Embassy
Run Bagram base
Security for embassy staff
Oh and there was 70,000 troops invading..

Everything is going so smooth... Biden needed 6000 troops for the evacuation of US Citizens and Friendlies...

That just shows you what Trump was thinking... Bring back the Troops by Christmas and fuck the rest...

You really need to give up trying to defend Surrender Joe on this. You would look less foolish trying to suck on the good end of a dog turd.

 

[CowboyTed]

Not pulled the troops and closed Bagram before civilians were evacuated.

He had 7 months to plan it.....did he forget?

He had only 2500 troops in the country... The Taliban was taking over the area... They would have been hopelessly out manned and 1 hr drive from Kabul...

How do they secure the route between Bagram and Kabul?

Generals made these decisions...

What do you mean 7 months to plan? How do we know the Army would fall apart in 11 days... But saying that, things are going as well as could be expected... There are no Americans killed, it is more dangerous to be Alabama than Kabul right now..

 

[CowboyTed]

You have been told his choices several times. Get everyone else out before the troops, not the other way around.

How many times have you misunderstood this...

US Citizens refused to leave...

What was Biden supposed to do then?

Now they want to leave....

 

[CowboyTed]

Like I said, Biden owns this mess. Trump handed a smooth plan to get out and Biden did the opposite.

Smooth Plan... You are having a laugh...

McMaster called it a defeat... Trump wanted all the troops out with over 20,000 US Citizens still left in Afghanistan...

Biden rightfully thought that would expose US Citizens to an unacceptable level of risk...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He had only 2500 troops in the country... The Taliban was taking over the area... They would have been hopelessly out manned and 1 hr drive from Kabul...

How do they secure the route between Bagram and Kabul?

Generals made these decisions...

What do you mean 7 months to plan? How do we know the Army would fall apart in 11 days... But saying that, things are going as well as could be expected... There are no Americans killed, it is more dangerous to be Alabama than Kabul right now..

He had only 2500 troops in the country...

How many did Trump have in the country?

How do they secure the route between Bagram and Kabul?

It's easier if you do it before you pull out all the troops and air support, eh?

What do you mean 7 months to plan?

Biden hasn't been president for 7 months?

But saying that, things are going as well as could be expected...

As well as we could expect from Joe and his incompetent administration.

 

[CowboyTed]

Biden didn’t stick to it. That’s a lie.

What do you mean...

He bent it but the Taliban was will to give him 3 months more..

 

[Decus]

Libya was in a civil war before US got involved and the US involvement was to take out the SAM sites so Europe could actually do the bombing.. US involvement was very limited... More of an observer than taking part.

Syria was a different kettle of fish... US was encouraging the toppling of Assad without getting involved in the combat... US bomb from the air and special forces to organise the ground forces... A lot less exposure and thus a lot less risk.

Iran was going grand until Trump undermined the deal.. Plain and simple, US broke the deal and Iran hardliners were put in charge because of that... Iran has been trying to negotiate a deal for almost 20 years now....

Think is all the Obama wars would about a fraction of one month in Iraq or even a month in Afghanistan... Not all wars are the same...

You are so full of bull. There was some unrest following on the heels of the Arab Spring but the civil war in Libya was a direct result of our ousting Gaddafi:

"Oil-rich Libya has been in chaos since the Arab spring movement and Nato bombing campaign that toppled Gaddafi in 2011. Attempts to build a democratic state after Gaddafi fell disintegrated into a new civil war between rival governments in 2014."

War in Libya: how did it start, who is involved and what happens next?

Foreign states are increasingly active in this new chapter of the long-running conflict

www.theguardian.com

According to all reports Hillary pushed to get Gaddafi and intervene in Libya. Here is a source you might believe:

"These days, you're more likely to hear about Benghazi when the topic of Clinton and Libya comes up, but far more important was the key role she played in pushing for intervention there in the first place. (A now laughably laudatory Washington Post article from 2011 called it "Hillary's war.") Referring to Muammar Gaddafi, Clinton infamously crowed, "We came, we saw, he died," which, no matter what you think of him, is quite a thing to say about the brutal killing of a political leader. Years later, it's clear that the decision to go into Libya was an epic mistake. The country has essentially ceased to exist."

What Hillary Clinton wants you to forget: Her disastrous record as a war hawk

Clinton gave her support to the Iran deal yesterday, but she also talked like someone ready to start dropping bombs

www.salon.com

"there is no better descriptor that can be placed on what post-intervention Libya looks like than what President Obama called it earlier this year—a "shit show.""

Libya Intervention Was Based on "Erroneous Assumptions," According to Scathing U.K. Parliament Report

Hillary Clinton still calls Libya "smart power at its best," even though it looks more like what President Obama called it earlier this year—a "shit show."

reason.com

Your opinion of Syria and Iran is crap as well.

.

 

[jknowgood]

Smooth Plan... You are having a laugh...

McMaster called it a defeat... Trump wanted all the troops out with over 20,000 US Citizens still left in Afghanistan...

Biden rightfully thought that would expose US Citizens to an unacceptable level of risk...

Trump would've got our civilians out. Biden is the worst and most ignorant president in our history.

 

[CowboyTed]

Trump has nothing to do with it.

He reduced the troops to that number.

Biden by the agreement could drastically increase it. It was an agreement to withdraw...

Taliban haven't killed any Americans... they have Airport fully surrounded and are cooperating with US army...

Again What would you do and stay inside the withdrawal agrement signed by Trump administration.

 

[CowboyTed]

He had only 2500 troops in the country...

How many did Trump have in the country?

How do they secure the route between Bagram and Kabul?

It's easier if you do it before you pull out all the troops and air support, eh?

What do you mean 7 months to plan?

Biden hasn't been president for 7 months?

But saying that, things are going as well as could be expected...

As well as we could expect from Joe and his incompetent administration.

Trump Says He Wants All Troops in Afghanistan Home by Christmas, Going Further Than Security Adviser

Just hours after national security adviser Robert O’Brien said the number of American troops in Afghanistan would be reduced to about 2,500 by early next year, President Trump tweeted that all troops should be out of Afghanistan by Christmas.

www.wsj.com

That is how many troops were left and that is because what the Generals begged for...

 

[CowboyTed]

Trump would've got our civilians out. Biden is the worst and most ignorant president in our history.

How?

They didn't want to leave..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump Says He Wants All Troops in Afghanistan Home by Christmas, Going Further Than Security Adviser

Just hours after national security adviser Robert O’Brien said the number of American troops in Afghanistan would be reduced to about 2,500 by early next year, President Trump tweeted that all troops should be out of Afghanistan by Christmas.

www.wsj.com

That is how many troops were left and that is because what the Generals begged for...

Trump did better than Biden, with the same number of troops?