Biden DOJ fines Musk 350k for refusing to hand over Trumps Tweets

Actually, whether ultimately right or wrong, Twitter’s objections were to the non disclosure order more than they were to the disclosure order itself. Twitter argues that it has a first amendment right to speak to its own customers and that the non disclosure order amounted to a prior restraint on free speech.

It did delay production even thereafter apparently because it couldn’t aggregate all of the Trump posts swiftly enough.

They hadn’t argued in time that the penalty formula was improper.

The government’s worries about the former President possibly destroying evidence if alerted to the warrant prematurely seems to assume that he would behave like Shrillary Clinton. I can’t explain why the 3 judges bought that nonsense.
Much like apple initially fought the government it makes me happy. Period


We're inching closer and closer to a permanent police state and every little thing that slows that snowball has my approval
 
They can fine Elon but is it contingent upon him to pay? And if he doesn't, what then, will they arrest Elon and put him in jail?

If Twitter owns Trump's tweets, then the Biden DOJ has no claim to them as it is neither Elon nor Twitter charged with any crime and those tweets can only be volunteered as evidence unless Twitter itself is criminally charged just for having them which they cannot or the court can specifically state what in them they believe is there in the commission of a crime and not just a fishing expedition, so if I were Musk, I'd tell the DOJ to go pound salt.
If they do not pay the government simply takes it from Twitters assets. It is not possible to simply ignore federal fines.

Jail is not an option, this is not a personal finding against Elon, it is a finding against X. The only thing they can do is seize assets, and they can do that with a single computer geek and 15 min once the legal side of things is complete.
 
If they do not pay the government simply takes it from Twitters assets. It is not possible to simply ignore federal fines.

Jail is not an option, this is not a personal finding against Elon, it is a finding against X. The only thing they can do is seize assets, and they can do that with a single computer geek and 15 min once the legal side of things is complete.
Like I said, POLICE STATE incoming
 
If they do not pay the government simply takes it from Twitters assets.

Who gave the right to the government to just seize anyone's assets? Is Twitter charged with a crime? A government who can just take whatever it wants and do whatever it wants is not any government authorized in the US Constitution.
 
Who gave the right to the government to just seize anyone's assets? Is Twitter charged with a crime? A government who can just take whatever it wants and do whatever it wants is not any government authorized in the US Constitution.
Well, yes, they are 'charged' with a crime. They violated a lawful order from the court which has been legally empowered to charge fines. This is no different than you going to court, telling the judge to fuck off in his courtroom and then being fined. You can complain until you turn blue in the face but you WILL pay the fine. Courts have that legal power.

That you disagree with it is another matter. Maybe they should not have that power but I do not see how you could structure that. You can be thrown in jail for contempt as well. Is this news to you?
 
What if Elon had no bank account in the country and no assets visible to the government? What then?
If the order was against Musk himself then jail time. And the fine is paid off by month (and the pay is actually rather high). however, as said before, this is not an order against Musk. It is an order against X. In that case, the company just goes out of business. That almost never happens though to my recollection. Most likely because if a simple fine would have put them under the case itself would have likely done so already or if they were in that dire straights they would have complied within the time limit.
 
One more bill Elon can't pay.
Businesses that dont pay their bills go bankrupt and get seized by the bank. Elon doesnt have that issue. His businesses are so successful that he can waste billions on fun side projects like Twitter.
 
Businesses that dont pay their bills go bankrupt and get seized by the bank. Elon doesnt have that issue. His businesses are so successful that he can waste billions on fun side projects like Twitter.
Twitter stopped paying rent on some of its offices and stopped paying several vendors whose services it was still using. Twitter also cancelled many contracts and stopped paying people to whom it owes money.” Twitter has already faced lawsuits over its alleged failure to pay rent on offices across the globe.Jul 3, 2023


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Twitter Faces Lawsuit Over Unpaid Office Fees—Again​

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Jul 3, 2023 — According to Bloomberg, at least 10 vendors sued Twitter between December and May over the company's failure to pay its debts, totaling $10 ...


Australian firm sues Twitter for $665000 for not paying bills​

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Jul 3, 2023 — In May, a former public relations firm filed a suit in a New York court saying Twitter had not paid its bills, while early this year U.S.-based ...


Elon Musk starts to face consequences of Twitter's unpaid ...​

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Jun 16, 2023 — The damages six ex-Twitter workers in the US, who sued the company for failing to pay them their obligatory severance payouts, are seeking at ...


Musk's Twitter has been sued by at least six companies for ...​

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Feb 24, 2023 — Elon Musk-led Twitter has been sued by at least six companies for failing to pay bills · A startup called Writer, Inc., sued Twitter this week ...


Twitter's Unpaid Bills Create Another Headache for Elon ...​

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May 3, 2023 — Twitter has said in court filings that it has refused to pay the bills because Private Jet Services breached its contract by providing ...
 

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