Biden destroyed these female athletes' opportunities and dreams

[candycorn]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

I would argue the mouth breathing knuckle dragger is the one who uses the words of one "right winger" to paint all "right wingers.

Thoughts CC?

Yeah...you're also the guys who believe every crazy assed Q-Anon conspiracy theory, that the blob won the election, that 9/11 was an inside job, that Obama was born in Africa.... This is why you guys are thought of as Neanderthals. Because you are Neanderthals.

 

[Seawytch]

Just stop with the ridiculous hand wringing...

In 1976, when Richards entered her first professional tournament as a transgender athlete, 23 players withdrew. “It's damn unfair to a woman who has devoted her whole life to tennis to lose a spot in a draw to a man and to become involved in the ‘psychological effects’ of losing to someone with a transsexual background,” said a spokesman for the Women’s Tennis Association.​

​

Women’s sports would soon be “taken over by a giant race of surgically created women,” declared an irate reader in The New York Times.​

​

Forty-some years later, women’s tennis seems OK.[...]​

​

in reality, 16 states already have trans-friendly policies governing sports, which differ in details but allow students to compete according to their gender identification in current school records and daily-life activities. So far, girls’ sports in those states seem OK.​

​

This Is What Is At Stake When We Talk About Transgender Athletes

If President Joe Biden's executive order becomes policy, "it offers a glimmer of esteem, of hope, to children who stand on the edge of a dark abyss," writes Stephen Lane.

www.wbur.org

How is it different than an athlete illegally using steroids for an advantage?

The Case of Transgender Athletes. Why Sports Aren't Fair and That's OK

Sports aren't fair for a broad range of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with anatomy or hormones.

www.newsweek.com

They aren't fair for a broad range of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with anatomy or hormones. No one can excel at a sport to which they've never been exposed, and categories of inequality like social class, race and nationality dictate who has the opportunity to pick up a golf club, a soccer ball or a baseball bat.​

​

Social class is an especially important determinant of both access to and success in sports because, put simply, playing sports costs money. Typically, American families spend $700 per year on their child's sports activities, but for some families the costs climb as high as $35,000. Among families earning less than $50,000 a year, cost was cited as the main reason for their child opting out of sports. At the elite level of any sport, the majority of athletes who are still on the field are there because of an invisible accumulation of unfair monetary advantages.​

​

In addition to social class, there's the leg-up that comes with knowing the right people, still an important component of sporting success. NFL quarterbacks and brothers Peyton and Eli Manning benefitted from having a father who played in the NFL, providing insight, knowledge and connections. In fact, in many men's professional leagues participation is passed down like an inheritance.​

​

Is it fair that Ken Griffey Jr., a Hall of Fame baseball player, was able to learn to play from his father, a three-time All-Star? Or that NBA star Stephen Curry benefited from his father, Dell Curry's experiences during his own extensive NBA career?[...]​

​

Athletes do bring genetic advantages to the field, but we are blind to those advantages that have nothing to do with gender. Studies show that some elite runners and cyclists have rare conditions that give them extraordinary advantages when it comes to their muscles' ability to absorb oxygen and their resistance against fatigue.​

​

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

 

[Disir]

Just stop with the ridiculous hand wringing...

In 1976, when Richards entered her first professional tournament as a transgender athlete, 23 players withdrew. “It's damn unfair to a woman who has devoted her whole life to tennis to lose a spot in a draw to a man and to become involved in the ‘psychological effects’ of losing to someone with a transsexual background,” said a spokesman for the Women’s Tennis Association.​

​

Women’s sports would soon be “taken over by a giant race of surgically created women,” declared an irate reader in The New York Times.​

​

Forty-some years later, women’s tennis seems OK.[...]​

​

in reality, 16 states already have trans-friendly policies governing sports, which differ in details but allow students to compete according to their gender identification in current school records and daily-life activities. So far, girls’ sports in those states seem OK.​

​

This Is What Is At Stake When We Talk About Transgender Athletes

If President Joe Biden's executive order becomes policy, "it offers a glimmer of esteem, of hope, to children who stand on the edge of a dark abyss," writes Stephen Lane.

www.wbur.org

How is it different than an athlete illegally using steroids for an advantage?

The Case of Transgender Athletes. Why Sports Aren't Fair and That's OK

Sports aren't fair for a broad range of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with anatomy or hormones.

www.newsweek.com

They aren't fair for a broad range of reasons, many of which have nothing to do with anatomy or hormones. No one can excel at a sport to which they've never been exposed, and categories of inequality like social class, race and nationality dictate who has the opportunity to pick up a golf club, a soccer ball or a baseball bat.​

​

Social class is an especially important determinant of both access to and success in sports because, put simply, playing sports costs money. Typically, American families spend $700 per year on their child's sports activities, but for some families the costs climb as high as $35,000. Among families earning less than $50,000 a year, cost was cited as the main reason for their child opting out of sports. At the elite level of any sport, the majority of athletes who are still on the field are there because of an invisible accumulation of unfair monetary advantages.​

​

In addition to social class, there's the leg-up that comes with knowing the right people, still an important component of sporting success. NFL quarterbacks and brothers Peyton and Eli Manning benefitted from having a father who played in the NFL, providing insight, knowledge and connections. In fact, in many men's professional leagues participation is passed down like an inheritance.​

​

Is it fair that Ken Griffey Jr., a Hall of Fame baseball player, was able to learn to play from his father, a three-time All-Star? Or that NBA star Stephen Curry benefited from his father, Dell Curry's experiences during his own extensive NBA career?[...]​

​

Athletes do bring genetic advantages to the field, but we are blind to those advantages that have nothing to do with gender. Studies show that some elite runners and cyclists have rare conditions that give them extraordinary advantages when it comes to their muscles' ability to absorb oxygen and their resistance against fatigue.​

​

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

You are arguing gender when it's sex. Gender is fluid. Sex is not. If you go back to when women began actually participating in sports then what you are dealing with is evolution and specifically in terms of strength and speed.

So, if we start from the year of Title IX you still don't have enough time for the larger group of women to have produced enough female children for that evolutionary gain.

Good try. Epic fail.

 

[Seawytch]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

 

[Correll]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

I care about fairness.

 

[gulfman]

Wouldn't it be cool if a man won an Olympic medal and then 4 years later won a medal as a woman?Put his male photo on the front of Wheaties and his female photo on the back of the box.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

I would argue the mouth breathing knuckle dragger is the one who uses the words of one "right winger" to paint all "right wingers.

Thoughts CC?

Yeah...you're also the guys who believe every crazy assed Q-Anon conspiracy theory, that the blob won the election, that 9/11 was an inside job, that Obama was born in Africa.... This is why you guys are thought of as Neanderthals. Because you are Neanderthals.

I enjoy reading your media brainwashed drivel. You're completely incapable of independent thought.

 

[Levant]

Biden just has his own fantasies about being in the girls' locker rooms.

 

[Markatmonterey]

cont.


In short, she did not answer the question, despite the president making it a priority to place female athletes and male athletes identifying as females in direct competition. Since Title IX, female athletes have been given the opportunity to compete in sports, giving them the experiences that athletics give to the development of the young mind and body, such as organization and dedication, and learning how to manage both the lows of sitting on the bench or losing and the highs of winning or excelling.

It also gives them the opportunity for scholarships, just like the boys.

Soule said that competing in sports is as important for young women as it is for young men and teaches important, lifelong lessons.

"It is one thing to show up at a meet expecting to compete against another girl you know is a worthy rival," she said. "It is another to show up and know you will lose before you even start because of the biological advantages you can do nothing about."

Christiana Holcomb, who is representing the three girls for the Alliance Defending Freedom, a legal foundation, said: "It is because of the advantages of those biological differences that these girls are losing their ability to compete fairly. That is what this is all about."

Remember when feminists said, Women are equal, anything men can do women can do better, you go girl? My how the tune has changed! They are now saying, Any race women can run, men can do better! We know that. So keep the sexes in separate competitions. Mark Roland

 

[Juicin]

Run faster!

Regardless, track probably won't be your career. You will have one less trophy, that you will blame on a transgender athlete. Get pissy as hell girl, about something that no one but you will ever remember. Or, run faster.

They hand out scholarships and sponsorship deals for this shit, what are you smoking/

The best women int he world would get beat by elite high school men.

You say that like you think a world class female runner wouldn't get beat by a relatively large % of men.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Run faster!

Regardless, track probably won't be your career. You will have one less trophy, that you will blame on a transgender athlete. Get pissy as hell girl, about something that no one but you will ever remember. Or, run faster.

So much for women's rights I guess? LOL

You think lots of the loudest women’s rights people we had are working for the other team on this one? I can’t figure out why more women aren’t mad about this.

Because the woke left then calls you transphobic so you have to grin and bear it. I coached my 6th grade hoops team and the opponent had a boy on it. I said on this board I thought it was unfair and many attacked me as being insensitive and transphobic. I explained that a phobia means fear. I am not afraid of gender confused people. Doesn't mean I want biological boys competing vs. my girls in a girls basketball league. Do you see where I am coming from?

good point ..they same the same thing about the ''''other'''' issues = fear---but it's not fear.....it was just in the news last week

I think it’s more a fairness thing. It’s just not fair to girls athletes to have a biological boy playing with them. She could play with the boys.

100% right but we are not allowed to express such an opinion publicly. Again, I had my daughter guard the boy so it wasn't awful but the girls were giggling and it was very odd. We still won but he was their best player and by far.

For the sake of women’s sports I hope women decide to say no to it.

Dont you think they have?

 

[candycorn]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

I would argue the mouth breathing knuckle dragger is the one who uses the words of one "right winger" to paint all "right wingers.

Thoughts CC?

Yeah...you're also the guys who believe every crazy assed Q-Anon conspiracy theory, that the blob won the election, that 9/11 was an inside job, that Obama was born in Africa.... This is why you guys are thought of as Neanderthals. Because you are Neanderthals.

I enjoy reading your media brainwashed drivel. You're completely incapable of independent thought.

Independent thought.

Lets have an experiment. Cite a post here where you climbed off of daddy's lap and disagreed with the blob...where he said one thing and you thought he should have done the opposite.

You do have some independent thought, right.

Lets see it. The floor is yours.

 

[Seawytch]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

I care about fairness.

No you don't or you would require that all competitors come from the same social/economical background, are all the same height, weight and have the same exact muscle mass.

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

 

[Correll]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

I care about fairness.

No you don't or you would require that all competitors come from the same social/economical background, are all the same height, weight and have the same exact muscle mass.

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

YOur excuses for pretending to not understand that boys and girls are different, is well done.


Letting girls compete against girls, gives athletic girls a "fair" chance. Yes, not all girls have a shot, but some of them do.


Putting boys in the mix, takes that away from them.

 

[MarathonMike]

Men do not belong in women's sports.

These Girls Are Hurt by Transgender Competition

townhall.com

Alanna Smith's dedication to her sport is profound. Just listening to the elite high school track star explain her training schedule is exhausting. Yet no matter how hard she trains, if she has to compete against biological males, she stands no chance of winning.

"There is simply a biological advantage that males have over females," explained the daughter of baseball Hall of Fame pitcher Lee Smith.

"Here is a perfect example," Smith told me. "I have a twin brother who is an athlete but does not run competitively for his sports. We raced against each other recently, and he beat me. Not because he trained harder, but because there are biological and physical advantages boys have over girls in some sports."

Smith, who set high school and county records as a short-distance track runner the moment she stepped on the field as a freshman at Danbury High School in Connecticut, says when she turns up to compete against male runners who identify and compete as females, she knows the cards are stacked against her.

And it has nothing to do with not being prepared.

"It is frustrating. I spend all of that time training to compete against other girls, and I find myself losing to biological males," she said.

Since 2017, two males who identify as female have taken 15 women's state championship titles in Connecticut. Smith's frustration led her last February to join with two other elite Connecticut runners, Selina Soule and Chelsea Mitchell, to file a federal discrimination complaint against Connecticut's policy allowing transgender competition against females. The girls explained that the suit alleges the policy unfairly marginalized them and violated Title IX, the federal law designed to ensure equal opportunities for females in education and school-based athletics.


On Inauguration Day, President Joe Biden issued an executive order saying a court case about transgender rights applies to Title IX, a federal education law that prevents discrimination based on sex. Elite female athletes such as Smith, Mitchell and Soule say Biden's pro-transgender order underscores their concerns.

Mitchell said she was ranked as the fastest girl in the 55-meter dash in Connecticut high school track in 2019. "Then I went to a high school competition, competing with two biological males who identify as girls," she said. "I really put my all into it, (but) I ultimately came in third, behind the both of them."

Soule said she missed an opportunity to qualify for the New England state championship in 2019 by one spot: "Both spots above me were taken by biological males."

Soule said that two distinct positions can be held about this that don't need to conflict with each other.

"This is not about not being supportive of the transgender community," she asserted. "Not at all. This is about fairness to girls and women. you can effectively hold both points of view."

All three athletes stressed that their objective is even-handedness in women's sports. "Title IX was created for a reason, and that was to give elite female athletes opportunities to be competitive and successful; the very objective was to have fairness in women's sports," said Soule.

Title IX was passed in 1972. In its first 10 years, the number of female athletes had blossomed to over 74,000. By 2020, that number had grown to over 220,000, according to data compiled by the NCAA.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki was one of those elite high school athletes in Connecticut in the mid-1990s who was able to shine because of Title IX as an accomplished swimmer for Greenwich High School, and she earned all-state honors in the backstroke. Psaki went on to swim for two years at William and Mary, an NCAA Division I school that currently gives out approximately 200 athletic scholarships a year, including women's swimming.

A 2020 study by the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health showed among female and male competitive swimmers, males were increasingly faster than females beginning at the age of 10 years and continuing until the age of 17. In other words, had Psaki -- who was also the captain of the high school swim team -- had to compete against male swimmers who identified as female, her results may have fallen, despite her devotion to competing in her sport.

When asked about Biden's executive order and what the White House message is to the girls being forced to compete in sports against biological males, in particular in high school sports that lead to scholarship opportunities, Psaki said: "The president's belief is that trans rights are human rights, and that's why he signed that executive order. In terms of the determinations by universities and colleges, I would certainly defer to them."

It would be Karmic Justice if the daughter of a couple of Social Justice Warriors was an aspiring track athlete losing races because she has to race against dudes in tights.

 

[Seawytch]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

I care about fairness.

No you don't or you would require that all competitors come from the same social/economical background, are all the same height, weight and have the same exact muscle mass.

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

YOur excuses for pretending to not understand that boys and girls are different, is well done.


Letting girls compete against girls, gives athletic girls a "fair" chance. Yes, not all girls have a shot, but some of them do.


Putting boys in the mix, takes that away from them.

They aren't boys. They are trans girls. Read up on Renee Richards.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Anyone who thinks it's okay for guys to compete against girl is an absolute moron...end of story.

 

[Correll]

I gotta say that is fucking hilarious, Not what happened to the girls but when it happened. 2017 and 2019. But it's Biden's EO in 2021 that destroyed them?

On the issue, I think girls should be able to move up in class and compete with the boys but not the other way around.

I do love that as of 1/19/2020....you couldn't get two guys anywhere in the world to discuss women's /girls sports. Regardless of the dude's political leanings, their race, color, creed, age, etc. There was no place in the universe where two men gave a collective single shit about women's sports.

But now...we have like 12 threads on it and right wing mouth breathing knuckle draggers are acting like they care.

This is how the rightwing really feels:

From 2010:

...The vast majority of college sports programs LOSE MONEY, big time. Especially with the bizarre requirements of Title IX, which requires multiple wimmin's sports about which no one but the players, coaches, and their parents gives a shit?

They still don't care about girls or women's sports.

For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness,​

I care about fairness.

No you don't or you would require that all competitors come from the same social/economical background, are all the same height, weight and have the same exact muscle mass.

Some basketball players have acromegaly, a hormonal condition that results in very large hands and feet. This condition is surely a genetic advantage in the sport, but players with acromegaly are not banned.​

​

Some doctors speculate that Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps has Marfan syndrome, a genetic condition that results in the long, flexible arms and legs that made Phelps such a force in the pool. Major league baseball players tend to have extraordinary eyesight, which allows them to see the seams on a tiny ball hurtling toward them at high speeds and hit it with greater success than those with poorer vision.​

​

In all these ways, sports aren't fair and yet, these types of inequalities are not just acceptable, but mostly unnoticed. For those like Republican legislators in Montana and other states, the real reason for clinging to the necessity of gender testing isn't about fairness, but the need to protect and reinforce the idea of gender itself.​

YOur excuses for pretending to not understand that boys and girls are different, is well done.


Letting girls compete against girls, gives athletic girls a "fair" chance. Yes, not all girls have a shot, but some of them do.


Putting boys in the mix, takes that away from them.

They aren't boys. They are trans girls. Read up on Renee Richards.

Boys are boys. Girls are girls. People with mental problems don't magically change.

 

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Science denying mofos.

 

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If the left insists on validating this alternate reality, the only reasonable thing they could do is try to establish teams and leagues for transgendered athletes specifically. Of course they won't, because..............

It is not unconstitutional..

Is it unconstitutional to have men's and women's sports? Why don't you democrats just come right out and admit your aim is to eliminate women's sports?

Why don't you get women out of men's sports?

Women don't have an unfair advantage in that case.