iceberg
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so you use 1% of the people to say 99% of the people should get the same treatment.Damn! I was going to 'thank' your post or even hit the 'agree' button, until you pulled your ''leftist" bull crud..So if the inmate is not the 'son of sam', should he have the right to vote taken away from him too, in your book?There's nothing wrong, in my book, with letting the Son of Sam vote. He's still behind bars where we're safe from him. When people like andaronjim vote, that's just as "dangerous," in my book.dunno. those are better questions for him and maybe he has more ideas around it. but i would ask him those questions and concerns before i said "bernie wants to let son of sam vote!" because that is taking what *is* said and putting "max drama" to it and i think that horse is long since dead and i'm tired of people flogging it and making every statement *extreme* in nature.
somewhere along the way we normalized the extreme. time to put things back where they belong and stop doing that.
bernie wants inmates to vote. can we clarify his position and ask for more details on that before we nail him for the statement?
that said - saying we need to rebuild america from the ground up in 10 years - ok - that's stupid from the word go.
You should read a different book. Mass murderers should not have the same voting rights as law obiding citizens. Your insanity is noted. WTF?!?! Son of Sam?!?!
And what about the people who are in prison or on death row, who DID NOT commit the crime and were falsely accused and convicted? Strip them of their vote too?
I'm not certain if you've thought this thru...
Granted, there are emotional reasons for not wanting a "Son of Sam" to be able to vote, but there are consequences that could also occur with "big government' or a crooked government or a crookedly run prison that could also be given with good reason, of why some should be allowed to vote.
Regardless of the issue above, all inmates that step foot out of prison after serving their prescribed time behind bars, and are legally released, should be automatically given their right to vote back, imo. There should be no application to do such required... once they are freed from prison, they should have their voting rights automatically restored, regardless if on probation or not.
This would eliminate any shenanigans by the Political Parties, with ex-felon lists being manipulated to disenfranchise eligible voters.
#1) You assume they are innocent. What proof do you have they are wrongly convicted?
#2) Once released they should be able to vote as they have paid their debt to society IMO but that is NOT what Sanders said.
#3) Fine with me. If they are working and paying taxes, which they do on probation they should vote.
But you're moving the goal posts as you're a typical Leftist and in my book as bad as the Alt Right. Convicted Felons who are in prison should not be allowed to vote and anyone who thinks they should are insane.
I am fine with my state allowing prisoners to vote, and fine with your State not allowing them to vote, while in prison.
FYI- About 1%, 20,000 people are wrongly imprisoned, and are innocent.
How Many Innocent People are in Prison? - Innocence Project
It does not bother me that Bernie made a plea for such, his State of Vermont is the "other" US State that did not change their laws to take the vote away from prisoners after the Civil War, so to him, it is probably just 'normal' to think in such a manner.
I don't understand if he was proposing something, like a federal law to do such, which would never pass muster imo, because how the States hold their own elections and who qualifies, is up to the States, as long as they are within the bounds of the rules the Constitution and Amendments state about it.
Perhaps he was doing some political pandering to the black constituents? This is the area he is weakest with constituents in polling for him...?
and we wonder how things got so screwed up in our country.