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Not without being a wishy-washy, go-along-to-get-along hypocrite, no.
So our society should socialize all the baby factories of our woman and punish those who terminate an unwanted pregnancy?
I just heard, "So straw man I really want to make this about because I'm too chickenshit to deal with your real words?"
Call me when you strap on a pair and can debate with the adults.
Your as bad as that woman on MSNBC a few years a go claiming that everyone's children belong to society.....maybe worse!
Yes, "we shouldn't allow people to kill babies" is EXACTLY the same as "all children should be wards of the state" . . . IF YOU'RE FUCKING INSANE.
Straightjackets should just be manufactured with the DNC logo on the front, to save time.
It's not your womb ma'am, it belongs to the collective.
These dimwits actively advertised to the public that they would bake cakes and wanted the public's business, then reneged. I looked at Phillip's website, but not the others.They went into business knowing full well about public-accommodation laws, then reneged. It's not a matter of hating anybody, just not caring about them. They made their bed.Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
ShoutYourAbortion - Wikipedia
Sorry, but unless medically nessasary or due to something like rape, a elective abortion due to the inconvenience of having a kid is something to be ashamed of. There are plenty of ways to prevent becoming pregnant.
You don't know anything per your sputtering about "inconvenience." What have you to say to those dumbfucks who do not want people to know about, and have access to, "ways to prevent becoming pregnant"? They try to enforce ignorance, and then complain. Sometimes these methods do not work. Abortion is only a backup.
A close friend of mine got pregnant by her husband, with an IUD, and she is a type I diabetic, but she chose to carry on with the pregnancy against her doctor's advice. She had to endure months of bed rest, and the birth was horrific. The point is that she made her own decision, without the input of the government and cheap politicians.
They should have used double protection. In Engineering only one method of control isn't considered control at all.
You still haven't explained why this is any business of government or politicians. She and her husband were not engineers, BTW. Government and politicians need to stay the fuck out of personal decisions.
For Pro life people it's because they see the fetus as a living human being, and thus worthy of government protection. You disagree.
Yet you are A-OK with ruining people who don't want to bake a cake for a specific occurance, mostly because you hate the people not wanting to bake the cake.
Pro Lifers are unimaginable morons who want crack whores to take every pregnancy to term, and care not about what that does to "social spending," public school classrooms which have to take those kids, future Democrat voters, and whether or not there are already too many humans on finite planet Earth.
Pro Lifers parrot preachers. They have the intellect of parrots...
Pro Lifers support an overcrowded, overpopulated world full of unwanted kids.... who vote Dem....
So our society should socialize all the baby factories of our woman and punish those who terminate an unwanted pregnancy?
I just heard, "So straw man I really want to make this about because I'm too chickenshit to deal with your real words?"
Call me when you strap on a pair and can debate with the adults.
Your as bad as that woman on MSNBC a few years a go claiming that everyone's children belong to society.....maybe worse!
Yes, "we shouldn't allow people to kill babies" is EXACTLY the same as "all children should be wards of the state" . . . IF YOU'RE FUCKING INSANE.
Straightjackets should just be manufactured with the DNC logo on the front, to save time.
It's not your womb ma'am, it belongs to the collective.
Yeah, and if I can't kill my husband for the insurance money, my marriage "belongs to the collective", too.
See above, re: FUCKING INSANE.
Btw, nothing condescending and patriarchal about a man explaining to a woman that she "needs" the "right" to abort babies, and just is too stupid to realize it without his help.
Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
It's about a woman using my big wallet without consent.
Do you have problem understanding "No!", and "HANDS OFF!".
These dimwits actively advertised to the public that they would bake cakes and wanted the public's business, then reneged. I looked at Phillip's website, but not the others.They went into business knowing full well about public-accommodation laws, then reneged. It's not a matter of hating anybody, just not caring about them. They made their bed.ShoutYourAbortion - Wikipedia
Sorry, but unless medically nessasary or due to something like rape, a elective abortion due to the inconvenience of having a kid is something to be ashamed of. There are plenty of ways to prevent becoming pregnant.
You don't know anything per your sputtering about "inconvenience." What have you to say to those dumbfucks who do not want people to know about, and have access to, "ways to prevent becoming pregnant"? They try to enforce ignorance, and then complain. Sometimes these methods do not work. Abortion is only a backup.
A close friend of mine got pregnant by her husband, with an IUD, and she is a type I diabetic, but she chose to carry on with the pregnancy against her doctor's advice. She had to endure months of bed rest, and the birth was horrific. The point is that she made her own decision, without the input of the government and cheap politicians.
They should have used double protection. In Engineering only one method of control isn't considered control at all.
You still haven't explained why this is any business of government or politicians. She and her husband were not engineers, BTW. Government and politicians need to stay the fuck out of personal decisions.
For Pro life people it's because they see the fetus as a living human being, and thus worthy of government protection. You disagree.
Yet you are A-OK with ruining people who don't want to bake a cake for a specific occurance, mostly because you hate the people not wanting to bake the cake.
Anti-choice people have their own views, but they have no right to force other people to obey their views. Government and politicians need to stay out of this philosophical dispute. They have no legitimate business in it.
I just heard, "So straw man I really want to make this about because I'm too chickenshit to deal with your real words?"
Call me when you strap on a pair and can debate with the adults.
Your as bad as that woman on MSNBC a few years a go claiming that everyone's children belong to society.....maybe worse!
Yes, "we shouldn't allow people to kill babies" is EXACTLY the same as "all children should be wards of the state" . . . IF YOU'RE FUCKING INSANE.
Straightjackets should just be manufactured with the DNC logo on the front, to save time.
It's not your womb ma'am, it belongs to the collective.
Yeah, and if I can't kill my husband for the insurance money, my marriage "belongs to the collective", too.
See above, re: FUCKING INSANE.
Btw, nothing condescending and patriarchal about a man explaining to a woman that she "needs" the "right" to abort babies, and just is too stupid to realize it without his help.
No you shouldn't kill your husband because it's against the law. I mean you could, but the collective would try to punish you for doing that.
Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
You do realize that your "view" is not the only viable view, right? You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.
This "high opinion" of myself is no higher opinion than yours of yourself. All that I have been saying is that government and politicians have no role in this discussion and that the role of decisionmaker must reside with the person most qualified to make it.Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
You do realize that your "view" is not the only viable view, right? You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.
I fully realize that there are other views. If you could read, you would realize that what I am saying is that there is no role for government or politicians to play in this philosophical dispute.Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
You do realize that your "view" is not the only viable view, right? You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.
Lice doesn't realize there ARE other views than hers. She's not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree . . . oh, excuse me, unnamed-holiday tree.
This "high opinion" of myself is no higher opinion than yours of yourself. All that I have been saying is that government and politicians have no role in this discussion and that the role of decisionmaker must reside with the person most qualified to make it.Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It just means that the right to decide this philosophical question remains with the only person qualified to make this decision according to her own views, the person who is pregnant. This is not an issue for government or for politicians or for religious leaders. I've known people who decided to continue a pregnancy to birth and people who chose to terminate the pregnancy.
You do realize that your "view" is not the only viable view, right? You seem to have a very high opinion of yourself.
No, Ted Bundy, I shouldn't - and don't - want to kill my husband BECAUSE IT'S WRONG. Not because it's against the law
These dimwits actively advertised to the public that they would bake cakes and wanted the public's business, then reneged. I looked at Phillip's website, but not the others.They went into business knowing full well about public-accommodation laws, then reneged. It's not a matter of hating anybody, just not caring about them. They made their bed.ShoutYourAbortion - Wikipedia
Sorry, but unless medically nessasary or due to something like rape, a elective abortion due to the inconvenience of having a kid is something to be ashamed of. There are plenty of ways to prevent becoming pregnant.
You don't know anything per your sputtering about "inconvenience." What have you to say to those dumbfucks who do not want people to know about, and have access to, "ways to prevent becoming pregnant"? They try to enforce ignorance, and then complain. Sometimes these methods do not work. Abortion is only a backup.
A close friend of mine got pregnant by her husband, with an IUD, and she is a type I diabetic, but she chose to carry on with the pregnancy against her doctor's advice. She had to endure months of bed rest, and the birth was horrific. The point is that she made her own decision, without the input of the government and cheap politicians.
They should have used double protection. In Engineering only one method of control isn't considered control at all.
You still haven't explained why this is any business of government or politicians. She and her husband were not engineers, BTW. Government and politicians need to stay the fuck out of personal decisions.
For Pro life people it's because they see the fetus as a living human being, and thus worthy of government protection. You disagree.
Yet you are A-OK with ruining people who don't want to bake a cake for a specific occurance, mostly because you hate the people not wanting to bake the cake.
Anti-choice people have their own views, but they have no right to force other people to obey their views. Government and politicians need to stay out of this philosophical dispute. They have no legitimate business in it.
What a pleasant little boi you seem to be.
What a pleasant little boi you seem to be.
I tell it like it is.
You hate that.
You are a parrot of lies.
He's right about that. Socialists always want to purge. Bernie has that authoritarian reflex.Bernie Sanders doesn’t see a future for pro-lifers in the Democratic Party: 'Being pro-choice is an absolutely essential part of being a Democrat'
Bernie says there is no room for pro-life people in the democrat party. Murdering the unborn is the solid foundation upon which the entire party rests.
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) doesn't see a future for people who believe in protecting the rights of the unborn in his vision of the Democratic Party.
At a presidential candidate forum in New Hampshire on Saturday, Sanders was asked, "Is there such a thing as a pro-life Democrat in your vision of the party?"
Sanders responded in the negative, saying, "I think being pro-choice is an absolutely essential part of being a Democrat, if you're asking me," to applause and cheers from the audience.
"And I may be wrong on this, I think, in the Senate probably 95% of the Democrats are pro-choice, you have a few who are not," Sanders continued, adding that there is "maybe even a higher percentage" of pro-abortion Democrats in the House of Representatives.
"So that's kind of what my view is," Sanders concluded. "I think by this time in history, I think, when we talk about what a Democrat is, I think being pro-choice is essentially, an essential part of that."
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) doesn't see a future for people who believe in protecting the rights of the unborn in his vision of the Democratic Party.
At a presidential candidate forum in New Hampshire on Saturday, Sanders was asked, "Is there such a thing as a pro-life Democrat in your vision of the party?"
Sanders responded in the negative, saying, "I think being pro-choice is an absolutely essential part of being a Democrat, if you're asking me," to applause and cheers from the audience.
"And I may be wrong on this, I think, in the Senate probably 95% of the Democrats are pro-choice, you have a few who are not," Sanders continued, adding that there is "maybe even a higher percentage" of pro-abortion Democrats in the House of Representatives.
"So that's kind of what my view is," Sanders concluded. "I think by this time in history, I think, when we talk about what a Democrat is, I think being pro-choice is essentially, an essential part of that."
Princeton University professor Robert George took to Twitter to condemn Sanders' remarks as "officially excommunicating pro-life Democrats." He added "So, if you're pro-life you are unacceptable, unwanted, an intruder. Time to go elsewhere."
Sanders is currently one of the front-runners for the Democratic Party's 2020 presidential nomination. His comments about the future of pro-lifers in the party follow similar remarks from fellow top contender, former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who was confronted on his abortion stance by Pro-Life Democrats executive director Kristen Day late last month.
"I am a proud pro-life Democrat. So, do you want the support of pro-life Democrats, pro-life Democratic voters? There are about 21 million of us," Day asked of the former mayor. "And if so, would you support more moderate platform language in the Democratic Party to ensure that the party of diversity and inclusion really does include everybody?"
Buttigieg wouldn't say whether he would support more moderate abortion platform language, but he did respond that "if we can't agree on where to draw the line, the next best thing we can do is agree on who should draw the line and in my view it's the woman who's faced with that decision in her own life."
Sanders' and Buttigieg's comments speak to a much larger and far-reaching trend among Democrats. The space for pro-life Democrats keeps getting smaller and smaller in the party. The overall trend of the party abandoning the bygone mantra of "safe, legal, and rare" for a far more unapologetic and extreme stance has been well documented over the last few years. Indeed, supporting for the protection of unborn life is becoming a more and more precarious position for elected Democrats.
Meanwhile, the Democratic Party's leftward push on abortion appears to be leaving a lot of its voters behind, as polling suggests that a Democratic Party removed of pro-life viewpoints would alienate more than just a minor fringe. Gallup polling conducted in May 2019 showed that 29% of Democrats identified as "pro-life." And while it found that a smaller percentage of Democrats identified as "pro-life," Marist polling conducted in January found that 44% of Democrats favor restrictions on abortions ranging from limiting it to the first three months of a pregnancy to not allowing it under any circumstances.
