Ben Sasse: "You're Being Scammed, Trump Supporters."

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Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
 
Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
Thing is if every contested vote was given to Trump he would still lose..that's what these idiots can't get through their pointed heads
 
Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
Sasse speaks for many Republicans who will be relieved to see the infestation of the RINOs of Trumpery come to an end.

I have no doubt that all the Republican governors, secretaries of state, attorneys general and other election officials who recently affirmed their integrity, along with all the Republican judges who upheld democracy, welcome the imminent return to reality. Consigned to ineffectual sniveling, the failed casino operator's cult will lose its capacity to pervert the party.

Gala death throes on January 6. Don't miss it!
 
Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
Yep. Worshippers of the Orange Baboon-God have drunk far too deeply of the Kool-Aid to be salvageable. Perhaps they can be de-programmed. :abgg2q.jpg:
 
He's trying to save his party. Now they think he's a commie.

Absolutely bizarre.
He's trying to save his party. Now they think he's a commie.

Absolutely bizarre.
Which is why he will now get death threats and suddenly be accused of things like having hung out with Jeffery Epstein or something. If you think that's a joke look at what is now happening to John Roberts.. or anybody else that has stood up to Trump.
 
He's trying to save his party. Now they think he's a commie.

Absolutely bizarre.
If the republican party goes back to per usual... It's not saving it. Not that I care I guess... I still don't consider myself a republican.
 
Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
Sasse is typical of many republicans in the senate with safe seats

he just won reelection with 67% of the vote

so even if biden is the Thief in Chief and if democrats own the House and have a majority in the senate election cheating has not harmed him in any way

except that he is metely the ranking member of his senate committee instead of the chairman

he’ll make big noises about taking the senate back while the democrats run over the best interests of 74+ million voters

does sasse give a damn?

of course not

he’s personally too comfortable to care
 
Worshippers of the Orange Baboon-God have drunk far too deeply of the Kool-Aid to be salvageable. Perhaps they can be de-programmed.
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Yeah, no kidding.

He's a Republican with a backbone, and not one of the slimeballs in the GOP lying to Trump's base for political expediency.

Some members of the House and the Senate are apparently going to object to counting the votes of some states that were won by Joe Biden. Just like the rest of Senate Republicans, I have been approached by many Nebraskans demanding that I join in this project.​
Having been in private conversation with two dozen of my colleagues over the past few weeks, it seems useful to explain in public why I will not be participating in a project to overturn the election – and why I have been urging my colleagues also to reject this dangerous ploy. ...​
2. IS THERE EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD SO WIDESPREAD THAT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?​
No.​
For President-Elect Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College victory to be overturned, President Trump would need to flip multiple states. But not a single state is in legal doubt. ...​
3. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLAIMS OF THE PRESIDENT’S LAWYERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN?​
I started with the courts for a reason. From where I sit, the single-most telling fact is that there a giant gulf between what President Trump and his allies say in public – for example, on social media, or at press conferences outside Philadelphia landscaping companies and adult bookstores – and what President Trump’s lawyers actually say in courts of law. And that’s not a surprise. Because there are no penalties for misleading the public. But there are serious penalties for misleading a judge, and the president’s lawyers know that – and thus they have repeated almost none of the claims of grand voter fraud that the campaign spokespeople are screaming at their most zealous supporters. So, here’s the heart of this whole thing: this isn’t really a legal strategy – it’s a fundraising strategy.
Since Election Day, the president and his allied organizations have raised well over half a billion (billion!) dollars from supporters who have been led to believe that they’re contributing to a ferocious legal defense. But in reality, they’re mostly just giving the president and his allies a blank check that can go to their super-PACs, their next plane trip, their next campaign or project. That’s not serious governing. It’s swampy politics – and it shows very little respect for the sincere people in my state who are writing these checks. ...​
5. BUT ISN’T IT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE THESE CLAIMS MORE THOROUGHLY? DOESN’T IT HELP GUARANTEE THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS?​
I take this argument seriously because actual voter fraud – and worries about voter fraud – are poison to self-government. So yes, we should investigate all specific claims, but we shouldn’t burn down the whole process along the way. Right now we are locked in a destructive, vicious circle:​
Step 1: Allege widespread voter fraud.​
Step 2: Fail to offer specific evidence of widespread fraud.​
Step 3: Demand investigation, on grounds that there are “allegations” of voter fraud. ...​
6. DO ANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS?​
When we talk in private, I haven’t heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent – not one. Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will “look” to President Trump’s most ardent supporters.


Oh, and for those Trump worshippers who are going to yell "RINO!" RINO now means "Retarded In Name Only"
Thing is if every contested vote was given to Trump he would still lose..that's what these idiots can't get through their pointed heads

How many are there?
 
Thing is if every contested vote was given to Trump he would still lose..that's what these idiots can't get through their pointed heads

For Trump to win, he would have to get not only the EC votes in several of the 5 states thrown out, which he hasn't gotten even one court to go along with, but to also grant an extra-judicial writ of mandamus to the states legislature for them to ignore their own state law, and vote a new slate of electors.

An unusual move after the Supreme Court used the "safe harbor" 3 U.S.C. 5 as the reason to grant an injunction to stop Florida from holding the recount their Supreme Court ordered.

They would not throw out 3 U.S.C. 5 in order to disqualify electors already legally chosen.
 
Thing is if every contested vote was given to Trump he would still lose..that's what these idiots can't get through their pointed heads

For Trump to win, he would have to get not only the EC votes in several of the 5 states thrown out, which he hasn't gotten even one court to go along with, but to also grant an extra-judicial writ of mandamus to the states legislature for them to ignore their own state law, and vote a new slate of electors.

An unusual move after the Supreme Court used the "safe harbor" 3 U.S.C. 5 as the reason to grant an injunction to stop Florida from holding the recount their Supreme Court ordered.

They would not throw out 3 U.S.C. 5 in order to disqualify electors already legally chosen.
So there is a way to subvert democracy through some legal maneuver...scary.
 
He's trying to save his party. Now they think he's a commie.

Absolutely bizarre.
Most of the MAGAtards have no idea what a commie is. Even if you printed out the definition and handed it to them.
One of them is now a Senator and talks about how proud he is of his dad who at the age of eighteen helped save Europe from the invading coimmunists in WWII.
 
Yep. Worshippers of the Orange Baboon-God have drunk far too deeply of the Kool-Aid to be salvageable. Perhaps they can be de-programmed. :abgg2q.jpg:
They have a surfeit of sniveling to keep them fully occupied.
 

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