Ben Sasse: The GOP is becoming the party of QAnon kooks and loons

[Old Rocks]

The difference being that Democrat lunatics are truly insane, believing their own nonsense.

.....and the fact that the democrat lunatics are propped up as being normal by our fifth column media while the perfectly rational republicans are cast as crazy right alongside the more extreme. .

We are living in Orwellian times, my friend.

The Dems did not ransack the capital and smear shit all over the place. The Dems are not represented by this guy;

 

[Astrostar]

The party has a choice: Be the party of the Constitution, or be the party of batshit crazy QAnon conspiracies. It can’t be both.

Eugene Goodman is an American hero. At a pivotal moment on January 6, the veteran United States Capitol Police officer single-handedly prevented untold bloodshed. Staring down an angry, advancing mob, he retreated up a marble staircase, calmly wielding his baton to delay his pursuers while calling out their position to his fellow officers. At the top of the steps, still alone and standing just a few yards from the chamber where senators and Vice President Mike Pence had been certifying the Electoral College’s vote, Goodman strategically lured dozens of the mayhem-minded away from an unguarded door to the Senate floor.​

​

The leader of that flank of the mob, later identified by the FBI as Douglas Jensen, wore a T-shirt emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue Q—the insignia of the delusional QAnon conspiracy theory. Its supporters believe that a righteous Donald Trump is leading them in a historic quest to expose the U.S. government’s capture by a global network of cannibalistic pedophiles: not just “deep state” actors in the intelligence community, but Chief Justice John Roberts and a dozen-plus senators, including me. Now Trump’s own vice president is supposedly in on it, too. According to the FBI, Jensen “wanted to have his T-shirt seen on video so that ‘Q’ could ‘get the credit.’”​

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”​

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.​

If and when the House sends its article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate, I will be a juror in his trial, and thus what I can say in advance is limited. But no matter what happens in that trial, the Republican Party faces a separate reckoning. Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon. They can’t. The GOP must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. Now is the time to decide what this party is about.​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

If USMB is any indication, the party is sliding into the swamp of crazy.

The Repubtards have always favored the right wing nut cases. Look at their support for Barry Goldwater. Of course, loving Trump put them way over the top of lunatic worship. Bigly!!!

 

[Toro]

..more babbleshit from the left
Harris is a racist dumbass--she fell for the Smollet Hoax
the Dems LOVE criminals and hate police = LOONEY/idiocy
AOC = no more needs to said there
etc etc
the Dems are the dumbass jackasses

Yeah, Ben Sasse is “Left,”

I guess you’re on the “loon” side

 

[Toro]

Both parties are filled with lunatics.

The difference being that Democrat lunatics are truly insane, believing their own nonsense.

The difference is that the Republicans elected one of the loons President

 

[Lesh]

Both parties are filled with lunatics.

The difference being that Democrat lunatics are truly insane, believing their own nonsense.

Both sides?

If one side is one that you don't like and the other is batshit crazy...there is only one side

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No, but then, that is not the point of a tariff.

Candycorn is too stupid to realize that tariffs have long been utilized as a way to protect the jobs of American workers -- you know, like what the democratic party claims it represents?

Let's see, here -- oppose tariffs, shut down small businesses, encourage the immigration of millions upon millions of immigrants to compete for blue collar jobs -- yep, they sure are the party of the working person, aren't they?

What you are too stupid to realize that when you use Tariffs, they have be used wisely. With no exceptions. I have been a long supporter of Tariffs if used wisely. Rump used them stupidly and it cost jobs, lots of jobs and destroyed many businesses in the process. Some of them were done because he got offended or was just mad at someone or something. The end result is, China benefited and the US was hurt on a Global scale.

 

[Hellokitty]

Okay there are a lot of stories about individuals involved in storming of the Capital, but I'm not seeing any connections being made between the individuals Even with the handful of people being associated with Q, no connections are being uncovered that they were acting together as a larger group. There are on the other hand several examples of larger groups of people being called out as ANTIF using the same type of tactics seen in the riots over the summer.

 

[BertramN]

The party has a choice: Be the party of the Constitution, or be the party of batshit crazy QAnon conspiracies. It can’t be both.

Eugene Goodman is an American hero. At a pivotal moment on January 6, the veteran United States Capitol Police officer single-handedly prevented untold bloodshed. Staring down an angry, advancing mob, he retreated up a marble staircase, calmly wielding his baton to delay his pursuers while calling out their position to his fellow officers. At the top of the steps, still alone and standing just a few yards from the chamber where senators and Vice President Mike Pence had been certifying the Electoral College’s vote, Goodman strategically lured dozens of the mayhem-minded away from an unguarded door to the Senate floor.​

​

The leader of that flank of the mob, later identified by the FBI as Douglas Jensen, wore a T-shirt emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue Q—the insignia of the delusional QAnon conspiracy theory. Its supporters believe that a righteous Donald Trump is leading them in a historic quest to expose the U.S. government’s capture by a global network of cannibalistic pedophiles: not just “deep state” actors in the intelligence community, but Chief Justice John Roberts and a dozen-plus senators, including me. Now Trump’s own vice president is supposedly in on it, too. According to the FBI, Jensen “wanted to have his T-shirt seen on video so that ‘Q’ could ‘get the credit.’”​

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”​

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.​

If and when the House sends its article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate, I will be a juror in his trial, and thus what I can say in advance is limited. But no matter what happens in that trial, the Republican Party faces a separate reckoning. Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon. They can’t. The GOP must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. Now is the time to decide what this party is about.​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

If USMB is any indication, the party is sliding into the swamp of crazy.

GOP strategists spent six decades using their Southern Strategy to shape the thought patterns in their poorly educated, white voter base.

Republican politicians convinced the base that education was only for "elitists", and was a danger to the conservatives' freedom. The Party propaganda encouraged racial separation, a platform abandoned by the Democrats in the 1960s, which gave Southern Democrats the Republican Party to support their racial hatred.

Through the following decades, the GOP convinced their base they were being victimized by the poor, by people of color, by the liberals, by the progressives, in fact, to listen to Republican politicians speak to their constituents, it was risky for conservatives to walk out their front doors.

The paranoid mindset of the rank-and-file Republican voters see nearly every aspect of American life as a threat to their safety, their constitutional rights, to their religion, to their livelihood, etc.

After so many long years being brainwashed by the GOP's Southern Strategy, the pigeons were eager to be plucked. So, for the 2016 presidential election it didn't require a grifter with very much talent to steal the RWNJs away from the Republican Party.

With their base primed and ready, the orange, weasel-in-chief opened the door to conspiracy theorists able to convince these 74 million or so brainwashed loonies the Martians will be arriving from their red planet to confiscate the RWNJs' guns. And, it's because the Democrats sent the Martians smoke signals telling the coast is clear.

Last November, the GOP leaders realized the overwhelming success of their Southern Strategy. QANON nuts were to join them in the Halls of Congress. Not as constituents visiting, but as the Honorable Gentleman/Lady from the state of...

How do you like them apples, congressional Republicans? The RWNJs you spent so long brainwashing are now invading your sacred halls with the lunacy your Southern Strategy created in them. Talk about karma.

(Only a weasel would throw the insurgents he sent to the Capitol to attempt his coup, under the bus by blaming them for everything, AND saying they should be severely punished.)


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[Lesh]

Just stop trying to ue the events of last summer to excuse the Capitol Insurrection.

In doing so you are taking an event you don't approve of and using it as an excuse for something YOU claim is the same. You're ADMITTING that you're wrong. Right from the start. You are not only pointing out your own hypocrisy but admitting that you know it was criminal.

 

[Lesh]

The party has a choice: Be the party of the Constitution, or be the party of batshit crazy QAnon conspiracies. It can’t be both.

Eugene Goodman is an American hero. At a pivotal moment on January 6, the veteran United States Capitol Police officer single-handedly prevented untold bloodshed. Staring down an angry, advancing mob, he retreated up a marble staircase, calmly wielding his baton to delay his pursuers while calling out their position to his fellow officers. At the top of the steps, still alone and standing just a few yards from the chamber where senators and Vice President Mike Pence had been certifying the Electoral College’s vote, Goodman strategically lured dozens of the mayhem-minded away from an unguarded door to the Senate floor.​

​

The leader of that flank of the mob, later identified by the FBI as Douglas Jensen, wore a T-shirt emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue Q—the insignia of the delusional QAnon conspiracy theory. Its supporters believe that a righteous Donald Trump is leading them in a historic quest to expose the U.S. government’s capture by a global network of cannibalistic pedophiles: not just “deep state” actors in the intelligence community, but Chief Justice John Roberts and a dozen-plus senators, including me. Now Trump’s own vice president is supposedly in on it, too. According to the FBI, Jensen “wanted to have his T-shirt seen on video so that ‘Q’ could ‘get the credit.’”​

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”​

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.​

If and when the House sends its article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate, I will be a juror in his trial, and thus what I can say in advance is limited. But no matter what happens in that trial, the Republican Party faces a separate reckoning. Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon. They can’t. The GOP must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. Now is the time to decide what this party is about.​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

If USMB is any indication, the party is sliding into the swamp of crazy.

GOP strategists spent six decades using their Southern Strategy to shape the thought patterns in their poorly educated, white voter base.

Republican politicians convinced the base that education was only for "elitists", and was a danger to the conservatives' freedom. The Party propaganda encouraged racial separation, a platform abandoned by the Democrats in the 1960s, which gave Southern Democrats the Republican Party to support their racial hatred.

Through the following decades, the GOP convinced their base they were being victimized by the poor, by people of color, by the liberals, by the progressives, in fact, to listen to Republican politicians speak to their constituents, it was risky for conservatives to walk out their front doors.

The paranoid mindset of the rank-and-file Republican voters see nearly every aspect of American life as a threat to their safety, their constitutional rights, to their religion, to their livelihood, etc.

After so many long years being brainwashed by the GOP's Southern Strategy, the pigeons were eager to be plucked. So, for the 2016 presidential election it didn't require a grifter with very much talent to steal the RWNJs away from the Republican Party.

With their base primed and ready, the orange, weasel-in-chief opened the door to conspiracy theorists able to convince these 74 million or so brainwashed loonies the Martians will be arriving from their red planet to confiscate the RWNJs' guns. And, it's because the Democrats sent the Martians smoke signals telling the coast is clear.

Last November, the GOP leaders realized the overwhelming success of their Southern Strategy. QANON nuts were to join them in the Halls of Congress. Not as constituents visiting, but as the Honorable Gentleman/Lady from the state of...

How do you like them apples, congressional Republicans? The RWNJs you spent so long brainwashing are now invading your sacred halls with the lunacy your Southern Strategy created in them. Talk about karma.

(Only a weasel would throw the insurgents he sent to the Capitol to attempt his coup, under the bus by blaming them for everything, AND saying they should be severely punished.)


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And this in order to enact tax cuts for the rich. THAT was the over riding concern of the Republican Party. Of course you don't get many votes being honest about that so you get the above.

And the animal that Republicans built to get those tax cuts has now turned on THEM

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Wow, a Fascist calling someone else to the left a Fascist. Benito would proud.

Daryl, honey, I realize you are one incredibly stupid individual, but you should at least TRY to learn the meaning of words before using them.

Have one of the older kids help you if need be.

Okay, cupcake, here is the definition of Fascism.

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

The 14 points of Fascism

1: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Rump is a Nationalist. While this isn't a good or a bad thing if by itself.

2: Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Too many times he openly threatened or condoned the reduction in Human Rights.

3: Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
He always had someone to blame. And he did it in a venomous way. Over and Over.

4: Supremacy of the Military
Rump started out with this until he found out that the Federal Military could not be used in the methods he tried to use them.

5: Rampant Sexism
This one has Rump's name written all over it.

6: Controlled Mass Media
There are many ways to control the Mass Media. You could shut them down except for those favorable with the Fascist. But Rump put another twist on it and created the term"Fake News" and pushed the ones that only agreed with him. It amounted to the same thing as shutting them down.

7: Obsession with National Security
Using fear to drive National Security. This is Rump 101.

8: Religion and Government are Intertwined
Rump is NOT a religious type. He didn't attend any services unless it was for a photo op. But the major Religions in the US blindly backed him.

9: Corporate Power is Protected
Giving extreme tax breaks to the ultra rich Corporations and others in a time when the US could ill afford to do this. For instance, I lost a little on his "Tax Breaks" when I total all the balance sheet. But large Corporations made out like bandits. Yes, some did benefit but I think for the middle class and below,it probably broke even. But to pay for it, the deficit had to sky rocket. And this was BEFORE Covid.

10: Labor Power is Suppressed
This has been going on a very long time. In order for a Fascist Government to exist, ALL Unions must be busted as a Fascist sees them as their biggest threat.

11: Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
A Fascist sees education as an enemy. This means that they have to go after the schools of all levels including Universities, Colleges and K-12. Attempt at discrediting them as much as possible.

12: Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Attempt at giving an extraordinary amount of power to the Police. When Rump cancelled the "Consent Decree" that allowed Police Forces to overstep their boundaries. Cases like Choking them out and placing a knew on the Artery that feeds the brain which results in death in a matter of seconds. And a few other things that leads to unrest. The major Cities that are still under the Consent Decree had protests but ZERO looting and rioting. Portland was one of the cities that was scheduled to fall under the Consent Decree but it was cancelled right after Rump too office.

13: Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
What can I say. To say this isn't true is just lying. What it led to is the most inept bunch of advisors that has ever assembled.


14: Fraudulent Elections
There are many ways to do a fraudulent election. One is to actually have fraudulent elections. But the way that Rump did it amounted to the same thing. You discredit the elections.

Before, Rump owned 12 out of 14 of how to be a successful Fascist Leader.

4: Supremacy of the Military
We have some laws that prevented Rump from owning this one although he tried. The biggest was the Uniform Code of Military Justice that the Federal Military operates under. In order to accomplish this, Rump would have had to completely own Congress. He did the first 2 years but not the last 2 when he tried to misuse the Federal Military for his own ends. Remember, the 82nd was sent to DC to "Help" the DC cops during that last Protest that also had looting and Rioting? The 82nd did go but didn't join in since there are laws that prevent them from joining in unless Congress gives their consent. Rump made threats to use the Federal Military but that was the first time he follows through with it. But the Joint Chiefs follows the orders until it conflicted with the UCMJ.

14: Fraudulent Elections
Rump was almost successful on this one. He did discredit the elections nearly to death. But what stopped him was the Judicial Branch. And still, he came way too close for comfort.

So Rump owns 12 of the 14 and the only reason he failed was that the other two had outside organizations that thwarted him.

They only list 14 but I am going to add a 15th that Mussolini had in his playbook. And this one is critical. Mussolini controlled over 60% of the Italian Congress and he used that to desolve the Italian Supreme Court. The 60% weren't just of the same party, they were blind followers. Rump failed because he never got the Party of the Rump to control both the House and the Senate by 60%.

So, cupcake, THAT is fascism and how we nearly waltzed into it. Had it not been for two documents, we would now have a Fascist Dictator. God preserve the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Something that Italy and Germany did not have.

 

[Rocko]

TLDR


But the democrats have their own conspiracy theories like systematic racism, Russian collusion

 

[Hellokitty]

No, but then, that is not the point of a tariff.

Candycorn is too stupid to realize that tariffs have long been utilized as a way to protect the jobs of American workers -- you know, like what the democratic party claims it represents?

Let's see, here -- oppose tariffs, shut down small businesses, encourage the immigration of millions upon millions of immigrants to compete for blue collar jobs -- yep, they sure are the party of the working person, aren't they?

What you are too stupid to realize that when you use Tariffs, they have be used wisely. With no exceptions. I have been a long supporter of Tariffs if used wisely. Rump used them stupidly and it cost jobs, lots of jobs and destroyed many businesses in the process. Some of them were done because he got offended or was just mad at someone or something. The end result is, China benefited and the US was hurt on a Global scale.

The democrat shutdowns hurt small business more that any of the TRUMP tariffs ever did...and now democrats want to further destroy small business with a $15 minimum wage.

 

[Mustang]

The party has a choice: Be the party of the Constitution, or be the party of batshit crazy QAnon conspiracies. It can’t be both.

Eugene Goodman is an American hero. At a pivotal moment on January 6, the veteran United States Capitol Police officer single-handedly prevented untold bloodshed. Staring down an angry, advancing mob, he retreated up a marble staircase, calmly wielding his baton to delay his pursuers while calling out their position to his fellow officers. At the top of the steps, still alone and standing just a few yards from the chamber where senators and Vice President Mike Pence had been certifying the Electoral College’s vote, Goodman strategically lured dozens of the mayhem-minded away from an unguarded door to the Senate floor.​

​

The leader of that flank of the mob, later identified by the FBI as Douglas Jensen, wore a T-shirt emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue Q—the insignia of the delusional QAnon conspiracy theory. Its supporters believe that a righteous Donald Trump is leading them in a historic quest to expose the U.S. government’s capture by a global network of cannibalistic pedophiles: not just “deep state” actors in the intelligence community, but Chief Justice John Roberts and a dozen-plus senators, including me. Now Trump’s own vice president is supposedly in on it, too. According to the FBI, Jensen “wanted to have his T-shirt seen on video so that ‘Q’ could ‘get the credit.’”​

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”​

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.​

If and when the House sends its article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate, I will be a juror in his trial, and thus what I can say in advance is limited. But no matter what happens in that trial, the Republican Party faces a separate reckoning. Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon. They can’t. The GOP must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. Now is the time to decide what this party is about.​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

If USMB is any indication, the party is sliding into the swamp of crazy.

Sliding into? Try diving into!

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Wow, a Fascist calling someone else to the left a Fascist. Benito would proud.

Daryl, honey, I realize you are one incredibly stupid individual, but you should at least TRY to learn the meaning of words before using them.

Have one of the older kids help you if need be.

Okay, cupcake, here is the definition of Fascism.

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

The 14 points of Fascism

1: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Rump is a Nationalist. While this isn't a good or a bad thing if by itself.

2: Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Too many times he openly threatened or condoned the reduction in Human Rights.

3: Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
He always had someone to blame. And he did it in a venomous way. Over and Over.

4: Supremacy of the Military
Rump started out with this until he found out that the Federal Military could not be used in the methods he tried to use them.

5: Rampant Sexism
This one has Rump's name written all over it.

6: Controlled Mass Media
There are many ways to control the Mass Media. You could shut them down except for those favorable with the Fascist. But Rump put another twist on it and created the term"Fake News" and pushed the ones that only agreed with him. It amounted to the same thing as shutting them down.

7: Obsession with National Security
Using fear to drive National Security. This is Rump 101.

8: Religion and Government are Intertwined
Rump is NOT a religious type. He didn't attend any services unless it was for a photo op. But the major Religions in the US blindly backed him.

9: Corporate Power is Protected
Giving extreme tax breaks to the ultra rich Corporations and others in a time when the US could ill afford to do this. For instance, I lost a little on his "Tax Breaks" when I total all the balance sheet. But large Corporations made out like bandits. Yes, some did benefit but I think for the middle class and below,it probably broke even. But to pay for it, the deficit had to sky rocket. And this was BEFORE Covid.

10: Labor Power is Suppressed
This has been going on a very long time. In order for a Fascist Government to exist, ALL Unions must be busted as a Fascist sees them as their biggest threat.

11: Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
A Fascist sees education as an enemy. This means that they have to go after the schools of all levels including Universities, Colleges and K-12. Attempt at discrediting them as much as possible.

12: Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Attempt at giving an extraordinary amount of power to the Police. When Rump cancelled the "Consent Decree" that allowed Police Forces to overstep their boundaries. Cases like Choking them out and placing a knew on the Artery that feeds the brain which results in death in a matter of seconds. And a few other things that leads to unrest. The major Cities that are still under the Consent Decree had protests but ZERO looting and rioting. Portland was one of the cities that was scheduled to fall under the Consent Decree but it was cancelled right after Rump too office.

13: Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
What can I say. To say this isn't true is just lying. What it led to is the most inept bunch of advisors that has ever assembled.


14: Fraudulent Elections
There are many ways to do a fraudulent election. One is to actually have fraudulent elections. But the way that Rump did it amounted to the same thing. You discredit the elections.

Before, Rump owned 12 out of 14 of how to be a successful Fascist Leader.

4: Supremacy of the Military
We have some laws that prevented Rump from owning this one although he tried. The biggest was the Uniform Code of Military Justice that the Federal Military operates under. In order to accomplish this, Rump would have had to completely own Congress. He did the first 2 years but not the last 2 when he tried to misuse the Federal Military for his own ends. Remember, the 82nd was sent to DC to "Help" the DC cops during that last Protest that also had looting and Rioting? The 82nd did go but didn't join in since there are laws that prevent them from joining in unless Congress gives their consent. Rump made threats to use the Federal Military but that was the first time he follows through with it. But the Joint Chiefs follows the orders until it conflicted with the UCMJ.

14: Fraudulent Elections
Rump was almost successful on this one. He did discredit the elections nearly to death. But what stopped him was the Judicial Branch. And still, he came way too close for comfort.

So Rump owns 12 of the 14 and the only reason he failed was that the other two had outside organizations that thwarted him.

They only list 14 but I am going to add a 15th that Mussolini had in his playbook. And this one is critical. Mussolini controlled over 60% of the Italian Congress and he used that to desolve the Italian Supreme Court. The 60% weren't just of the same party, they were blind followers. Rump failed because he never got the Party of the Rump to control both the House and the Senate by 60%.

So, cupcake, THAT is fascism and how we nearly waltzed into it. Had it not been for two documents, we would now have a Fascist Dictator. God preserve the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Something that Italy and Germany did not have.

Unlike you, I am capable of writing in my own words.

This started off with you defending a person who wants to send those who disagree with him to the Gulags. Now, I don't have to look this up as I already know, but the term fascism is derived from an Ancient Etruscan implement called a fasces which consists of a bundle of sticks wound tightly together around a cutting blade. The symbolism is obvious, but I will explain it to you because you are stupid, as the sticks represent a group of people absolutely unified in opinion, and the blade represents the political power thus wielded by that conformity. With this understanding in mind, the statement that groups of people should be sent to the Gulags for being something other than the ones marching in lock-step is undeniably fascist in nature.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No, but then, that is not the point of a tariff.

Candycorn is too stupid to realize that tariffs have long been utilized as a way to protect the jobs of American workers -- you know, like what the democratic party claims it represents?

Let's see, here -- oppose tariffs, shut down small businesses, encourage the immigration of millions upon millions of immigrants to compete for blue collar jobs -- yep, they sure are the party of the working person, aren't they?

What you are too stupid to realize that when you use Tariffs, they have be used wisely. With no exceptions. I have been a long supporter of Tariffs if used wisely. Rump used them stupidly and it cost jobs, lots of jobs and destroyed many businesses in the process. Some of them were done because he got offended or was just mad at someone or something. The end result is, China benefited and the US was hurt on a Global scale.

The democrat shutdowns hurt small business more that any of the TRUMP tariffs ever did...and now democrats want to further destroy small business with a $15 minimum wage.

You call them Democrat Shutdowns. Better take a good hard look at the Red States right now.

 

[d0gbreath]

 

[BertramN]

Wow, a Fascist calling someone else to the left a Fascist. Benito would proud.

Daryl, honey, I realize you are one incredibly stupid individual, but you should at least TRY to learn the meaning of words before using them.

Have one of the older kids help you if need be.

Okay, cupcake, here is the definition of Fascism.

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe

The 14 points of Fascism

1: Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Rump is a Nationalist. While this isn't a good or a bad thing if by itself.

2: Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Too many times he openly threatened or condoned the reduction in Human Rights.

3: Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
He always had someone to blame. And he did it in a venomous way. Over and Over.

4: Supremacy of the Military
Rump started out with this until he found out that the Federal Military could not be used in the methods he tried to use them.

5: Rampant Sexism
This one has Rump's name written all over it.

6: Controlled Mass Media
There are many ways to control the Mass Media. You could shut them down except for those favorable with the Fascist. But Rump put another twist on it and created the term"Fake News" and pushed the ones that only agreed with him. It amounted to the same thing as shutting them down.

7: Obsession with National Security
Using fear to drive National Security. This is Rump 101.

8: Religion and Government are Intertwined
Rump is NOT a religious type. He didn't attend any services unless it was for a photo op. But the major Religions in the US blindly backed him.

9: Corporate Power is Protected
Giving extreme tax breaks to the ultra rich Corporations and others in a time when the US could ill afford to do this. For instance, I lost a little on his "Tax Breaks" when I total all the balance sheet. But large Corporations made out like bandits. Yes, some did benefit but I think for the middle class and below,it probably broke even. But to pay for it, the deficit had to sky rocket. And this was BEFORE Covid.

10: Labor Power is Suppressed
This has been going on a very long time. In order for a Fascist Government to exist, ALL Unions must be busted as a Fascist sees them as their biggest threat.

11: Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
A Fascist sees education as an enemy. This means that they have to go after the schools of all levels including Universities, Colleges and K-12. Attempt at discrediting them as much as possible.

12: Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Attempt at giving an extraordinary amount of power to the Police. When Rump cancelled the "Consent Decree" that allowed Police Forces to overstep their boundaries. Cases like Choking them out and placing a knew on the Artery that feeds the brain which results in death in a matter of seconds. And a few other things that leads to unrest. The major Cities that are still under the Consent Decree had protests but ZERO looting and rioting. Portland was one of the cities that was scheduled to fall under the Consent Decree but it was cancelled right after Rump too office.

13: Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
What can I say. To say this isn't true is just lying. What it led to is the most inept bunch of advisors that has ever assembled.


14: Fraudulent Elections
There are many ways to do a fraudulent election. One is to actually have fraudulent elections. But the way that Rump did it amounted to the same thing. You discredit the elections.

Before, Rump owned 12 out of 14 of how to be a successful Fascist Leader.

4: Supremacy of the Military
We have some laws that prevented Rump from owning this one although he tried. The biggest was the Uniform Code of Military Justice that the Federal Military operates under. In order to accomplish this, Rump would have had to completely own Congress. He did the first 2 years but not the last 2 when he tried to misuse the Federal Military for his own ends. Remember, the 82nd was sent to DC to "Help" the DC cops during that last Protest that also had looting and Rioting? The 82nd did go but didn't join in since there are laws that prevent them from joining in unless Congress gives their consent. Rump made threats to use the Federal Military but that was the first time he follows through with it. But the Joint Chiefs follows the orders until it conflicted with the UCMJ.

14: Fraudulent Elections
Rump was almost successful on this one. He did discredit the elections nearly to death. But what stopped him was the Judicial Branch. And still, he came way too close for comfort.

So Rump owns 12 of the 14 and the only reason he failed was that the other two had outside organizations that thwarted him.

They only list 14 but I am going to add a 15th that Mussolini had in his playbook. And this one is critical. Mussolini controlled over 60% of the Italian Congress and he used that to desolve the Italian Supreme Court. The 60% weren't just of the same party, they were blind followers. Rump failed because he never got the Party of the Rump to control both the House and the Senate by 60%.

So, cupcake, THAT is fascism and how we nearly waltzed into it. Had it not been for two documents, we would now have a Fascist Dictator. God preserve the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Something that Italy and Germany did not have.

These fourteen points should be posted often on these message boards. The RWNJs, and the moderators should be reminded regularly how this country barely avoided becoming their orange-tinted messiah's fourth reich. It would not be the conservative utopia the believed he would create.

(Only a weasel would throw the insurgents he sent to the Capitol to attempt his coup, under the bus by blaming them for everything, AND saying they should be severely punished.)

.

 

[BertramN]

No, but then, that is not the point of a tariff.

Candycorn is too stupid to realize that tariffs have long been utilized as a way to protect the jobs of American workers -- you know, like what the democratic party claims it represents?

Let's see, here -- oppose tariffs, shut down small businesses, encourage the immigration of millions upon millions of immigrants to compete for blue collar jobs -- yep, they sure are the party of the working person, aren't they?

What you are too stupid to realize that when you use Tariffs, they have be used wisely. With no exceptions. I have been a long supporter of Tariffs if used wisely. Rump used them stupidly and it cost jobs, lots of jobs and destroyed many businesses in the process. Some of them were done because he got offended or was just mad at someone or something. The end result is, China benefited and the US was hurt on a Global scale.

The democrat shutdowns hurt small business more that any of the TRUMP tariffs ever did...and now democrats want to further destroy small business with a $15 minimum wage.

You call them Democrat Shutdowns. Better take a good hard look at the Red States right now.

If not for the progressives that live in red states, let the RWNJs honor their weasel-in-chief, by never wearing face masks and gathering in large crowds to celebrate spreading his kung flu. And let them enjoy the consequences.

(Only a weasel would throw the insurgents he sent to the Capitol to attempt his coup, under the bus by blaming them for everything, AND saying they should be severely punished.)

.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The party has a choice: Be the party of the Constitution, or be the party of batshit crazy QAnon conspiracies. It can’t be both.

Eugene Goodman is an American hero. At a pivotal moment on January 6, the veteran United States Capitol Police officer single-handedly prevented untold bloodshed. Staring down an angry, advancing mob, he retreated up a marble staircase, calmly wielding his baton to delay his pursuers while calling out their position to his fellow officers. At the top of the steps, still alone and standing just a few yards from the chamber where senators and Vice President Mike Pence had been certifying the Electoral College’s vote, Goodman strategically lured dozens of the mayhem-minded away from an unguarded door to the Senate floor.​

The leader of that flank of the mob, later identified by the FBI as Douglas Jensen, wore a T-shirt emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue Q—the insignia of the delusional QAnon conspiracy theory. Its supporters believe that a righteous Donald Trump is leading them in a historic quest to expose the U.S. government’s capture by a global network of cannibalistic pedophiles: not just “deep state” actors in the intelligence community, but Chief Justice John Roberts and a dozen-plus senators, including me. Now Trump’s own vice president is supposedly in on it, too. According to the FBI, Jensen “wanted to have his T-shirt seen on video so that ‘Q’ could ‘get the credit.’”​

January 6 is a new red-letter day in U.S. history, not just because it was the first time that the Capitol had been ransacked since the War of 1812, but because a subset of the invaders apparently were attempting to disrupt a constitutionally mandated meeting of Congress, kidnap the vice president, and somehow force him to declare Trump the victor in an election he lost. En route, the mob ultimately injured scores of law-enforcement officers. The attack led to the deaths of two officers and four other Americans. But the toll could have been much worse: Police located pipe bombs at the headquarters of both the Republican and Democratic National Committees. Investigators discovered a vehicle fully loaded with weaponry and what prosecutors are calling “homemade napalm bombs.”​

The violence that Americans witnessed—and that might recur in the coming days—is not a protest gone awry or the work of “a few bad apples.” It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice. When Trump leaves office, my party faces a choice: We can dedicate ourselves to defending the Constitution and perpetuating our best American institutions and traditions, or we can be a party of conspiracy theories, cable-news fantasies, and the ruin that comes with them. We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both.​

If and when the House sends its article of impeachment against Trump to the Senate, I will be a juror in his trial, and thus what I can say in advance is limited. But no matter what happens in that trial, the Republican Party faces a separate reckoning. Until last week, many party leaders and consultants thought they could preach the Constitution while winking at QAnon. They can’t. The GOP must reject conspiracy theories or be consumed by them. Now is the time to decide what this party is about.​

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/conspiracy-theories-will-doom-republican-party/617707/

If USMB is any indication, the party is sliding into the swamp of crazy.

Sooooooo......a kooky loon writing for a kook loon website accuses others of being kooks and loons. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to you though.