Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

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The constitution gives a woman the right to control her own body.

It's not her body that is being killed.

Oh boy, here we go. A fetus is a fetus, it is reliant on the female body and the female has authority over the fetus, it is her body, there is no way in hell to control uterus's, it's impossible, well, unless you want to force women to give birth.

Again, it is not her body.

As for viability, there are quite a few bodies that are not viable without external help, and yet we are not allowed to kill them at will just because they are a huge financial and emotional drain or a big cost to the state.

It IS her body, the fetus relies on her body, she is the one who has full control of the fetus, not you, not the state, not old billy down the street.

It is her body, and she most likely chose to have unprotected sex with the man, and so has chosen the strong possibility of getting pregnant. The possibility of getting pregnant on the first try is extremely rare. Most need to choose to have sex several times. So, the point is murder is murder. It isn't different because the women has chosen to be sexually active and chosen not to be married.

The point is how she got pregnant is none of your ******* business.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy much more than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

 

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Carson thinks a Muslim's beliefs are in conflict with the Constitution,

and yet, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison is pro-choice; Carson is anti-choice,

and abortion is a constitutionally protected right.

Who is conflict with the Constitution?

Abortion is a constitutionally protected right? Ha ha ha. What a joke!

Why many conservative politicians are trying to pass a bill making a fertilized egg a person. I guess the joke is on you.

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The constitution gives a woman the right to control her own body. You insist YOU should be in control of her body.

The court clearly disagrees.

I never said that I disagree with abortion or the woman's right to have one. I think the state shouldn't pay and sponsor murder of an unborn child, just because a woman or man fucked up and didn't use proper birth control. Abortion has become the equivalent of contraception in this country, and it shouldn't be. And it isn't a constitutional right, in my opinion, but I am for the right of a woman to have abortions, within limits.

No fed $$$ have paid for abortion since the 1970s. Do try to keep up & google HYDE Amendment. Learn something.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

If she's a liberal and voted for liberal policies, she should raise it, and damn well love it!

Muahaha you only say that because you are male and cannot get pregnant regardless of how irresponsible you are........

 

[B. Kidd]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

You are living proof that morality among Americans anymore is at risk.

 

[Pogo]

The PC Police always get so pissy when I point out their behaviors, and especially when I refer to Islam as "the PC-protected religion".

And then a thread like this comes along.


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What's "PC" about disagreeing with people who think Muslims should be banned from holding office?

Gawd, you're still humping my leg.

I'm not going to explain PC to you.

But let me try to help: Here are some HONEST liberals who have had enough of it. If this isn't good enough for you, too bad.

That's an interesting discussion (the video).
Problem is, Maher keeps milking the same Composition Fallacy as posters here do, which is suggesting that this bombing, that terrorism, the other war, are waged by a religion -- rather than by political dynamics. He even talks himself into a self-contradicting corner right at the end. A political commentator of all people ought to know better.

What's intelligence-insulting about this post though, is the blatant suggestion that "oh here's a Liberal who agrees with me, therefore being all monolithic you have to agree with him too". Bull ******* Shit. Individual opinions are just that, and this endless crutch of hanging labels on everybody to pre-define what they think is absolutely pathetic.

If I were a conservative, that would be a good point. And if you're honest, you'll admit that both "sides" do that. If you're honest.

Actually, I lean to the Left, and I agree with these lefties (including the lovely, proud, long-time Democrat in my sig) who feel that PC, in all its forms, has gone too far:

• The political correctness cops are going to ruin the progressive cause

• Bill Maher Rails Against Crazy Political Correctness From Liberals Tells Media Matters to Shut The F ck Up Video RealClearPolitics

• Jerry Seinfeld says political correctness is hurting comedy - CBS News

• Don Lemon weighs in on PC culture Liberals are the most easily offended and the least tolerant - Salon.com

• Not a Very P.C. Thing to Say -- NYMag

• Liberal Turley against political correctness in News Forum

• Are Liberals Becoming Too Sensitive and Politically Correct

• Jim Webb says Democratic Party has lost its way - The Washington Post

• John Stuart Mill s Argument Against Political...

• Dem Blames Political Correctness for Fort Hood Workplace Violence Controversy - ABC News

• Is the New Political Correctness Already Dying -- NYMag

• I don t know what to do you guys Fredrik deBoer

• http://www.forwardprogressives.com/liberals-becoming-sensitive-politically-correct/

• http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

• http://www.socialmemorycomplex.net/leftlibertarian/2012/06/12/a-leftist-critique-of-political-correctness/

• My view: Political correctness should not inhibit free speech

• http://scienceblogs.com/webeasties/2013/05/21/science-racism-and-political-correctness/

• http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/threads/liberal-columnist-leonard-pitts-asks-if-weve-overdone-political-correctness.130665/

• #CancelColbert and the Return of the Anti-Liberal Left

• REED: When liberals become illiberal

• PC Police Out Of Control In Possibly The Most Absurd Story I've Ever Come Across

• “Political Correctness” | The Progressive Professor

• How Liberals Ruined College

Do you seriously believe anybody in the world is going to sit and read 257 links?
Articulate your point and pick one. That ain't happening.

And if the point didn't seep in, I don't pick my position based on "X, Y and Z picked this position so I'm with them". I don't give a flying shit who makes the point-- all I'm interested in is whether the point works. This bullshit of corralling people into camps and declaring "you are a (label) and therefore have to believe (label doctrine) has gotta go, yesterday.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

You are living proof that morality among Americans anymore is at risk.

You are living proof of an arrogant Ashmolean who thinks "its moral" to be an asshole....you are a moral guide ???...WTF you are a moron
there is no doubt what the core principles of Jesus Christ were, he stated them very clearly, again and again and again: feed the hungry, help the poor, heal the sick, give your money away. Jesus was an upstart progressive, bordering on a full blown socialist, and as such, a bigger and bigger threat to the existing wealth centers of his ancient world as his influence grew.

 

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I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The fact that *you* want sovereignty over a woman's body makes you no less a sharia law wanna be.

I think it would be more likely that conservatives would rather their daughters (and women in general), not be so willing to give their rights away to some "Goodtime Charley". Real sovereignty for a woman begins when a woman says, "NO!"

I can already hear them yelling "NO!" when descending disenfranchised male Syrian refugees are raping them when they find out the 'American Dream' has been taken.

I suppose THEN it would be fine for a woman to exercise her right to choose, because that way she doesn't bring another dirty Muzzie into the world 'eh?

If she's a liberal and voted for liberal policies, she should raise it, and damn well love it!

Roe v Wade says otherwise.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

You are living proof that morality among Americans anymore is at risk.

Dude I have more morality in my toe nail clippings than you will ever have

 

[playtime]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

Ol' benny thinks women need to be 'reeducated' about their own uterus'.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

During the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2014, the most recent for which data is available, Planned Parenthood affiliates around the country received $528.4 million in government funds (a combination of state, federal and sometimes local government dollars), according to the organization's own annual report and information it's required to share with the IRS.

Yep, not a cent. Lol

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

BKidd apparently sets the moral standards here .....LOL

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

Ol' benny thinks women need to be 'reeducated' about their own uterus'.

There is no group of conservatives I have more contempt for than the anti abortion fanatics...hypocritical hysterical phonies

 

[B. Kidd]

I trust a woman's morality and integrity in deciding to terminate a pregnancy than I trust cheap ass politicians morality and integrity who want to start wars............

You are living proof that morality among Americans anymore is at risk.

You are living proof of an arrogant Ashmolean who thinks "its moral" to be an asshole....you are a moral guide ???...WTF you are a moron
there is no doubt what the core principles of Jesus Christ were, he stated them very clearly, again and again and again: feed the hungry, help the poor, heal the sick, give your money away. Jesus was an upstart progressive, bordering on a full blown socialist, and as such, a bigger and bigger threat to the existing wealth centers of his ancient world as his influence grew.

Is this a 'teaching moment'? (to borrow a favorite phrase from the propagandist liberal biased media).

 

[Mertex]

Abortion has become the equivalent of contraception in this country, and it shouldn't be. And it isn't a constitutional right, in my opinion, but I am for the right of a woman to have abortions, within limits.

That BS with a capital "B". Check your state and see how many restrictions they have on it. You need to educate yourself in the matter so you don't post laughable crap like this. ^^^

 

[B. Kidd]

BKidd apparently sets the moral standards here .....LOL

I don't pretend to know everything........like elitist progressives do.

Go figure?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Is this a 'teaching moment'? (to borrow a favorite phrase from the propagandist liberal biased media).

Is this a "triumphant snark moment" for you Junior ? ....you are certainly establishing your "moron asshole" bonafides

 

[Pogo]

Carson's remarks are relatively unimportant...

The American People will not elect a Muslim for President at any time in the foreseeable future...

9-11 took care of that...

Once again --- the argument cannot be made without employing a Composition Fallacy.

Religions didn't fly planes into buildings --- terrorists did that.
Now if you wanna reword that to say The American People will not elect a terrorist for President at any time in the foreseeable future, you've got a no-brainer.

Dumbest logic.

Sucks 2BU if you don't like the truth, but fallacy is fallacy. Pointing it out is not "dumbest logic". That would be the fallacy itself.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

BKidd apparently sets the moral standards here .....LOL

I don't pretend to know everything........like elitist progressives do.

Go figure?

Fk you ....you tried to "moral shame" me fat chance

 

[Mac1958]

The PC Police always get so pissy when I point out their behaviors, and especially when I refer to Islam as "the PC-protected religion".

And then a thread like this comes along.


.

What's "PC" about disagreeing with people who think Muslims should be banned from holding office?

Gawd, you're still humping my leg.

I'm not going to explain PC to you.

But let me try to help: Here are some HONEST liberals who have had enough of it. If this isn't good enough for you, too bad.

That's an interesting discussion (the video).
Problem is, Maher keeps milking the same Composition Fallacy as posters here do, which is suggesting that this bombing, that terrorism, the other war, are waged by a religion -- rather than by political dynamics. He even talks himself into a self-contradicting corner right at the end. A political commentator of all people ought to know better.

What's intelligence-insulting about this post though, is the blatant suggestion that "oh here's a Liberal who agrees with me, therefore being all monolithic you have to agree with him too". Bull ******* Shit. Individual opinions are just that, and this endless crutch of hanging labels on everybody to pre-define what they think is absolutely pathetic.

If I were a conservative, that would be a good point. And if you're honest, you'll admit that both "sides" do that. If you're honest.

Actually, I lean to the Left, and I agree with these lefties (including the lovely, proud, long-time Democrat in my sig) who feel that PC, in all its forms, has gone too far:

• The political correctness cops are going to ruin the progressive cause

• Bill Maher Rails Against Crazy Political Correctness From Liberals Tells Media Matters to Shut The F ck Up Video RealClearPolitics

• Jerry Seinfeld says political correctness is hurting comedy - CBS News

• Don Lemon weighs in on PC culture Liberals are the most easily offended and the least tolerant - Salon.com

• Not a Very P.C. Thing to Say -- NYMag

• Liberal Turley against political correctness in News Forum

• Are Liberals Becoming Too Sensitive and Politically Correct

• Jim Webb says Democratic Party has lost its way - The Washington Post

• John Stuart Mill s Argument Against Political...

• Dem Blames Political Correctness for Fort Hood Workplace Violence Controversy - ABC News

• Is the New Political Correctness Already Dying -- NYMag

• I don t know what to do you guys Fredrik deBoer

• http://www.forwardprogressives.com/liberals-becoming-sensitive-politically-correct/

• http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

• http://www.socialmemorycomplex.net/leftlibertarian/2012/06/12/a-leftist-critique-of-political-correctness/

• My view: Political correctness should not inhibit free speech

• http://scienceblogs.com/webeasties/2013/05/21/science-racism-and-political-correctness/

• http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/threads/liberal-columnist-leonard-pitts-asks-if-weve-overdone-political-correctness.130665/

• #CancelColbert and the Return of the Anti-Liberal Left

• REED: When liberals become illiberal

• PC Police Out Of Control In Possibly The Most Absurd Story I've Ever Come Across

• “Political Correctness” | The Progressive Professor

• How Liberals Ruined College

Do you seriously believe anybody in the world is going to sit and read 257 links?
Articulate your point and pick one. That ain't happening.

And if the point didn't seep in, I don't pick my position based on "X, Y and Z picked this position so I'm with them". I don't give a flying shit who makes the point-- all I'm interested in is whether the point works. This bullshit of corralling people into camps and declaring "you are a (label) and therefore have to believe (label doctrine) has gotta go, yesterday.

From both ends of the spectrum.
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